Results 1 to 11 of 11

Thread: Ebon Weapons Discussion

  1. #1
    Senior Member Kaziscate's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2014
    Location
    P
    Posts
    847
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    118
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    444
    Thanked in
    182 Posts

    Default Ebon Weapons Discussion

    This is sort of a continuation of a thread I made talking about the Ebon Staff: https://www.spacetimestudios.com/sho...77#post2932277
    The TL;DR of that thread was that the reflect proc on the Ebon Staff has some situations that can render the proc useless and it doesn't fit in with what mages do.

    Additionally, here's what the Ebon Staff does well and what needs to be worked on (discussed in the ebon staff thread):

    The Good
    1.Reflect damage is great
    2.Mana regen
    3.Procing on skill damage and staff damage
    4.Best Stats

    The Bad
    1.Reflect's weaknesses:
    -A tank skill for someone that isn't strong at tanking
    -Stuns
    -Warrior's taunting
    -Invincibility
    -Extremely low level enemies
    2.Health regen kinda can't keep up

    I want to expand the discussion of Ebon weapons to all classes and see which weapons are good and which ones still need some fine tuning.

    Adding on to the Ebon Staff discussion, I think the proc should deal damage to nearby enemies.
    Last edited by Kaziscate; 03-01-2019 at 02:52 PM. Reason: Cut down health regen part

  2. #2
    Senior Member alxe's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2014
    Location
    mars,deal with it.
    Posts
    885
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    225
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    178
    Thanked in
    132 Posts

    Default

    Well i only tried the daggers, but from what i saw from players using it:

    fortress:is quite strong and fits warrior theme.
    Swordkay i guess? I think its more for pvp
    Daggers:very good in stats& proc
    Bow:i didnt see it doing decent damage, in swamp it was barely half hitting a mob
    Staff:this one dosent make sense for me becuase reflecting damage when u have "perma" stun/disable and arcane shiled plus the ultimate shiled,the heal isnt useful either unless it heals for 3k hp a sec
    Gun:think most guns been like this, so its fine

    Generally i think they can use a bit of tuning, for mage maybe the staff should get a whole new proc like casting your spells an extra time every 10 sec or something,works with the ultimate theme and is gonna be useful for single/aoe traget damage

    Sent from my SM-N900 using Tapatalk
    an alxe

  3. The Following User Says Thank You to alxe For This Useful Post:


  4. #3
    Senior Member Kaziscate's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2014
    Location
    P
    Posts
    847
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    118
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    444
    Thanked in
    182 Posts

    Default Ebon Weapons Discussion

    Quote Originally Posted by alxe View Post
    Generally i think they can use a bit of tuning, for mage maybe the staff should get a whole new proc like casting your spells an extra time every 10 sec or something,works with the ultimate theme and is gonna be useful for single/aoe traget damage
    I don't think the proc should be an entirely different proc since the reflect can get some serious hits in occasionally. I think it just needs have some form of guarenteed additional damage, like the one I mentioned above or making powerful explosion(s). Just something to make use of those 4 purple spinning orbs.
    Last edited by Kaziscate; 02-26-2019 at 02:20 AM.

  5. #4
    Senior Member will0's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2013
    Posts
    2,163
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    357
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    257
    Thanked in
    198 Posts

    Default

    Well.... they buff other ebon weapons time to take a look at the underwhelm ebon staff
    Last edited by will0; 02-26-2019 at 09:19 PM.

  6. The Following User Says Thank You to will0 For This Useful Post:


  7. #5
    Forum Adept
    Join Date
    Jul 2016
    Posts
    354
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    79
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    140
    Thanked in
    77 Posts

    Default

    It would be nice to see daggers and staff proc swap. After all, rogues need the mana regen a lot more than mages.

    Or swap staff with sword proc. This would give both war weaps reflect procs (since they are supposed to tank, not mages) and give both mage weapons damage procs (since mages are supposed to do damage).

    Or just buff the proc of staff.

    Mages are a dying class. Rogues are op and wars are capable of fast clearing both mobs and bosses. Mages are slowly becoming useless in almost every way.

  8. The Following User Says Thank You to Korabiv For This Useful Post:


  9. #6
    Senior Member will0's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2013
    Posts
    2,163
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    357
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    257
    Thanked in
    198 Posts

    Default

    hey renim is sts looking into the staff problem?

  10. #7
    Forum Adept
    Join Date
    May 2018
    Location
    Bjgjfidjdjdjdk
    Posts
    384
    Blog Entries
    5
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    85
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    140
    Thanked in
    95 Posts

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by will0 View Post
    hey renim is sts looking into the staff problem?
    That's how Remiem got recruited. STS had a staff shortage. Ba-dum-tss.

    MAGE OF DEVIANT MISFITSKGKGKFK

  11. The Following User Says Thank You to Tuhguhbuhbuh For This Useful Post:


  12. #8
    Senior Member Kaziscate's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2014
    Location
    P
    Posts
    847
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    118
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    444
    Thanked in
    182 Posts

    Default

    So I suppose the only under performing weapon out of all of the Ebon weapons is the staff. Here's what I think would fix the Ebon Staff's problems:
    1.Apply reflect to all allies
    -Addresses warrior taunt
    2.For duration of proc, staff attacks deal double damage, or has chance to
    -Addresses other issues
    3.Address health regen issue (Just possible solutions):
    -Give damage reduction
    -Double health regen
    -Heal on reflecting damage
    Last edited by Kaziscate; 03-01-2019 at 02:51 PM. Reason: Included addressing health regen

  13. #9
    Forum Adept
    Join Date
    Jul 2016
    Posts
    354
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    79
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    140
    Thanked in
    77 Posts

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Kaziscate View Post
    So I suppose the only under performing weapon out of all of the Ebon weapons is the staff. Here's what I think would fix the Ebon Staff's problems:
    1.Apply reflect to all allies
    -Addresses warrior taunt
    2.For duration of proc, staff attacks deal double damage, or has chance to
    -Addresses other issues
    3.Address health regen issue (Just possible solutions):
    -Give damage reduction
    -Double health regen
    -Heal on reflecting damage
    I feel like all the ebon weapons are “underperforming” aside from the daggs and aegis, at least given their price. Only problem is both mage ebon weaps are bad. War and rogue at least have one good one.

  14. The Following User Says Thank You to Korabiv For This Useful Post:


  15. #10
    Senior Member will0's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2013
    Posts
    2,163
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    357
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    257
    Thanked in
    198 Posts

    Default

    forgotten post by STS ...

  16. #11
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Oct 2012
    Posts
    520
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    7
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    19
    Thanked in
    11 Posts

    Default

    "forgotten post by STS ..."


Similar Threads

  1. Ebon weapons discussion thread
    By Perceval in forum AL General Discussion
    Replies: 17
    Last Post: 06-29-2019, 01:41 PM
  2. ebon weapons with reflect process
    By will0 in forum AL Technical Issues and Bugs
    Replies: 3
    Last Post: 02-14-2019, 04:16 AM
  3. ebon weapons process with reflect
    By will0 in forum AL Suggestions and Feedback
    Replies: 3
    Last Post: 02-12-2019, 07:47 PM

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •