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[Thewolfbull]

Remove pve kills and add new elite only pve kills that only count in a completely random start elite map like m6 that requires you to run a few random easyer levels first to get a zone that counts, preferably a new map as maus has been around for years..

Also remove pvp aps most doing dummy farm anyways now.

[Avaree]

Remove pve kills and add new elite only pve kills that only count in a completely random start elite map like m6 that requires you to run a few random easyer levels first to get a zone that counts, preferably a new map as maus has been around for years..

Also remove pvp aps most doing dummy farm anyways now.

I agree on most, but the last (underlined in bold italics) I am sure I am not a lone on this, pvpers spent a lot of time to earn earn their pvp APs. It took me about 7 months and a-lot of gold for propper gears, not to mention what players have to endure with all the TT and bs that comes with PvP for those APs, I think its unjust to remove those APs, instead why not restructure how the CTF room is unlocked. Have a time out of 5 secs before rejoin a player can rejoin, this is not fool proof, but a lot harder for DF to get an unlocked room. After all thats all it takes is two players to unlock CTF by rejoining 5 times......

[Pxoo]

I agree on most, but the last (underlined in bold italics) I am sure I am not a lone on this, pvpers spent a lot of time to earn earn their pvp Ads. It took me about 7 months and a-lot of gold for proper gears, not to mention what players have to endure with all the TT and bs that comes with PvP for those APs, I think its unjust to remove those APs, instead why not restructure how the CTF room is unlocked. Have a time out of 5 secs before rejoin a player can rejoin, this is not fool proof, but a lot harder for DF to get an unlocked room. After all thats all it takes is two players to unlock CTF by rejoining 5 times......

This wouldn't actually help to prevent dummyfarming, these players just enter Trulle's Forest and get their 10k pvp kills there then, but it will be harder to have a classic ctf match again because it's more difficult to open the room, which will prevent randoms from entering there in the first place and cause even less activity.
I absolutely agree that PvP achievements (preferably every achievement) should stay.

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[Avaree]

This wouldn't actually help to prevent dummyfarming, these players just enter Trulle's Forest and get their 10k pvp kills there then, but it will be harder to have a classic ctf match again because it's more difficult to open the room, which will prevent randoms from entering there in the first place and cause even less activity.
I absolutely agree that PvP achievements (preferably every achievement) should stay.

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I agree with you (: but CTF is were the majority DF bc the room is locked after so many flags are captured. But thats not topic of your thread sorry to derail.

[Uiss]

As some people are commenting, a new tiebreaker, taking the tie off of the pve and adding in order of time. Those who completed the AP first would get first, and so on.

[Allset]

What trips me out is @Pxoo is that ur hating on something you don’t know for fact. I would bet money that sts has walked in hauntlet to see if these players are legit killing pve or just bots. I run hauntlet a lot & have players come in & run with me and leave all the time. STS I am sure keeps an eye on lb players with massive kills. They have banned players for much less...


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[Pxoo]

What trips me out is @Pxoo is that ur hating on something you don’t know for fact. I would bet money that sts has walked in hauntlet to see if these players are legit killing pve or just bots. I run hauntlet a lot & have players come in & run with me and leave all the time. STS I am sure keeps an eye on lb players with massive kills. They have banned players for much less...


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Of coure I can't show you in detail how people are doing what they do, but I have seen enough screenshots of line chats with people offering to sell bots with people buying them or other people who don't respond to anyone or anything while running hauntlet who just join between the guildhall and the hauntlet for days. Some people clear their whole friendlist and leave guilds for not getting caught and some of those even forget to ghost party and are being seen doing the same movements in haunlet. I know how many kills are possible per hour and for some people there are just more sleepless nights than any human could handle. Yes this doesn't prove it 100%, but it's enough for me to be entirely sure about it.

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[Allset]

Of coure I can't show you in detail how people are doing what they do, but I have seen enough screenshots of line chats with people offering to sell bots with people buying them or other people who don't respond to anyone or anything while running hauntlet who just join between the guildhall and the hauntlet for days. Some people clear their whole friendlist and leave guilds for not getting caught and some of those even forget to ghost party and are being seen doing the same movements in haunlet. I know how many kills are possible per hour and for some people there are just more sleepless nights than any human could handle. Yes this doesn't prove it 100%, but it's enough for me to be entirely sure about it.

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Tell me how many kills are possible in hauntlet. I wonder if u can tell me how fast I can run by myself and how many kills that is?


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[Allset]

I’ll throw u a bone...
https://youtu.be/TuK_6rj7ixs


And that was me taking my time so others could see how it's done...
So for the sack of the argument I kill 60 every 60sec = 3,600 kills an hour. * 24 hours or 1 day = 86,400. So yeah it is possible mathematically...

[Pxoo]

I’ll throw u a bone...
https://youtu.be/TuK_6rj7ixs


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and what exactly is it you want to tell me by showing that?

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[Allset]

and what exactly is it you want to tell me by showing that?

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I guess u didn't read..

And that was me taking my time so others could see how it's done...
So for the sack of the argument I kill 60 every 60sec = 3,600 kills an hour. * 24 hours or 1 day = 86,400. So yeah it is possible mathematically...

Guess u need to run hauntlet like it's an APS asap...

[Pxoo]

I guess u didn't read..

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tbh I didn't see anything under the video, did you edit it? and considering you ran all the way from kraag you wasted a lot of time compared to those who just join there by quest and don't do any breaks, I estimate it's about 4k kills an hour

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[Allset]

tbh I didn't see anything under the video, did you edit it?

Refresh ur browser or Tapatalk... & You wouldn't have to type the rest of what you typed.



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[Pxoo]

Refresh ur browser or Tapatalk... & You wouldn't have to type the rest of what you typed.



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I still don't get what the point of discussing how many hauntlet kills per hour you make is? what does that have to do with discussing a new tie breaker for the best player leaderboard?

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[Avaree]

As some people are commenting, a new tiebreaker, taking the tie off of the pve and adding in order of time. Those who completed the AP first would get first, and so on.

Good idea, what about newer players? They would always be lacking.

Maybe a veteran and seasonal LB be implemented.

Seasonal LB would/could have all current APs achieved, but with only that season's PvE kills acheived (leaving out lifetime to date pve kills).

[Allset]

You are complaining because of the tie breaker kills when mathematically they can be legit.

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[Pxoo]

Good idea, what about newer players? They would always be lacking.

Maybe a veteran and seasonal LB be implemented.

Seasonal LB would/could have all current APs achieved, but with only that season's PvE kills acheived (leaving out lifetime to date pve kills).

I like that idea very much

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[Scll]

Just ban the bots Jesus Christ.....

[iloveu]

Nowadays a lot of people have all achievement points (32,550) on the Best Player Leaderboard. For not having multiple persons on the same position on the leaderboard, there is a tie breaker: PvE Kills. There are people who are farming hard and log in every single day to secure a high position in the leaderboard and there are those people, who just use a bot or makro to get many more PvE Kills than possible if you grind hard every day, because this enemy doesn't tire, doesn't stop, doesn't feel. These bot users get more PvE Kills through the night while they are actually sleeping, than those who farm hard every day. Since it's impossible to catch up with players who use bots with impunity, the fair players lose motivation and stop playing, while the bot users climb higher and higher. It's obvious who is cheating his or her way up the leaderboard and who doesn't and yet these players are still up there, causing more damage than any platfarmer or account-sharer ever could.
Since there aren't any actions taken against such cheaters, I'd like to ask if it's possible to introduce another sort of tie-breaker for this kind of leaderboard. It doesn't have to exclude PvE Kills entirely, but something like the Guild Leaderboard, which includes e.g. daily activity is more judicious than the current system. Of course it isn't perfect either, but it's more respectful towards fair players, than competing against a program, which does your PvE Kills. If you have an idea for a better tie-breaker, feel free to comment.
Thank You.

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"causing more damage than any platfarmer or account-sharer ever could"
not tru bro illegal is illegal and there lb players who do account share to complete flag and to dummy farm kills they need ban same way as all illegal also plat farmers

[Salb]

What about adding seasonal pve kills?
make all of who in lb equally at kills( just in leaderboard, not real kdr) and then Set a limit like 20k pve per day,
prolly it helps a bit but it can't solve the Bot topic anyway

*Using swamp temple map Can be good idea for make pve kills if mobs hp reduces a bit , just a suggestion instead of huntlet

sry for my English

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