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    • 2011 Winter Festival has begun. Speak to the helpful Elf, Dash R. or any Towne Crier to join in the celebration.
    • Special 2011 Winter Festival limited edition vanity item pack is now available in the store.
    • Characters under a certain level can no longer trade away potions
    • You can now earn Platinum for liking Star Legends and Pocket Legends on Facebook!
    • RIP Star Wars: Galaxies, you will be deeply missed!

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    Galaxies is gone? Lol. Maybe because of TOR..

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    Gonna check this out now!

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    Really? 2 plat everytime we beat winter boss?

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    What is with the potion hate, seriously? It's just a few lousy potions on remake. Nothing gamebreaking. Probably only a couple people hoarding potions anyway. This makes me sad....

    Other than that thank you for the update. Will check it out after I get my Vularia fix on SL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BirdBrainJr View Post
    Really? 2 plat everytime we beat winter boss?
    Sounds like it from what I've heard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skeletonlord View Post
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    Really? 2 plat everytime we beat winter boss?
    Sounds like it from what I've heard.
    Might be a bug cuz when u buy its supposed to give u access for 4 hours but once u kill boss it disappears

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    Once the boss is killed your access goes away. To those of you who don't think it is fair that we are charging access, please understand that we are running a business. We give away almost the entire game for free (including some xmas antlers). You have ways to earn platinum without paying us anything. Salaries and servers don't run on gold... we wish they did!

    And for those of you who are enjoying the snowy land of Alterra... HAPPY HOLIDAYS from Spacetime!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Justg View Post
    Once the boss is killed your access goes away. To those of you who don't think it is fair that we are charging access, please understand that we are running a business. We give away almost the entire game for free (including some xmas antlers). You have ways to earn platinum without paying us anything. Salaries and servers don't run on gold... we wish they did!

    And for those of you who are enjoying the snowy land of Alterra... HAPPY HOLIDAYS from Spacetime!
    Our point is, it says 4 hours and 9 minutes left or whatever and we still can't access. People are rioting. I just saw a few people recruiting to a guild called: "STS is Greedy". Just saying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Justg View Post
    Once the boss is killed your access goes away. To those of you who don't think it is fair that we are charging access, please understand that we are running a business. We give away almost the entire game for free (including some xmas antlers). You have ways to earn platinum without paying us anything. Salaries and servers don't run on gold... we wish they did!

    And for those of you who are enjoying the snowy land of Alterra... HAPPY HOLIDAYS from Spacetime!
    Oh my..
    I sort of expected this.

    So, I guess Christmas is now for people who pay. No more Christmas at all for me. I thought this was supposed to be fun...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Justg View Post
    Once the boss is killed your access goes away. To those of you who don't think it is fair that we are charging access, please understand that we are running a business. We give away almost the entire game for free (including some xmas antlers). You have ways to earn platinum without paying us anything. Salaries and servers don't run on gold... we wish they did!

    And for those of you who are enjoying the snowy land of Alterra... HAPPY HOLIDAYS from Spacetime!
    I understand you are running a business. My concern is that the business model changed so drastically, with no actual justification. Last years Halloween and Christmas included unlimited access for 10 plat, and items you could chose to purchase if you liked them for plat. Valentines day, more items you could purchase for plat. If inflation is such a problem, why not just charge more for the same access? I'd have paid more than 10 plat for it, with that understanding. I even was okay with the new "random" packs because in the end, support took care of some issues. But this, is very disappointing to me.

    I understand it's elective, but there is no real justification for this price. If it cost that much, you'd have gone broke during every other event before. I've been looking forward to experiencing my first Christmas for a while now (PL Christmas that is ), but now that you've opted for a "carnival" approach to the Christmas event, I'd feel like a sucker to support it.

    I had every intention of buying more plat to get some holiday items and the campaign etc, but for me, this actually was too much. I've decided to not spend any more money on plat, at least for the time being. I'm also torn because I'd like to at least see what I missed last year, and 4 plat is not much, but then I'm supporting something I wholeheartedly disagree with, and were it not for the overwhelming support you've received from the loyal fans, I don't think we'd be here with 2 plat per boss kill vs. actually buying a campaign.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Justg View Post
    Once the boss is killed your access goes away. To those of you who don't think it is fair that we are charging access, please understand that we are running a business. We give away almost the entire game for free (including some xmas antlers). You have ways to earn platinum without paying us anything. Salaries and servers don't run on gold... we wish they did!

    And for those of you who are enjoying the snowy land of Alterra... HAPPY HOLIDAYS from Spacetime!
    So neither the purchase OR the update notes said anything about a time limit or number of runs.

    Ok the same maps and creatures as last year, that means you put little effort into it this year. Just a excuse to charge us for work u did last year. I paid for this content last year..

    Look this really just makes you look greedy. This code already existed, you just changed the loot tables. You turn it back on, and then put a time limit AND a 'one and done' in ...ALL without even telling your users how its going to work this time?

    Look, if you need people to buy plat more, you are doing things all wrong.

    please just consider what other popular mmos do.
    Let people buy and sell things in market for plat.
    Let people sell plat in market for gold.
    And i say this next one withevery intention of being constructive......
    Get the crap our if the plat store abd sell something worth buying.
    Rings are good, buy since they stop at 20 you only ever buy 1, make more every 5 levels.
    You weapons and armor are laughable.. they dont even compare to game drops 10 levels lower...
    Put more OPTIONAL things ito the market that you cannot get elseware..Like adding procs to weapons, weapons, armor comparible, more vanity that has cool graphics , things people can do TO their gear..to compliment it.. etc.


    Theirs tons of stuff you can do to promote people buying plat, these things work in other games. Dont hurt your players.

    One more example.. in parallel kingdom food is their equivilant to plat. You need it to do lots of things..level up, run dungeons, buy on market,buy special holiday items, etc... i had 1000s of food..but i never paid for any if it..but someone paid for it. Food is bought by brokers and sold in game. Point is they are making their money BECAUSE its a integrated tradable commodity, so people broker it. That gets it in circulation. 90% of you players will not buy plat from you, but the 10% that do willp ay you much more than you 100% now.. because of higer demand demand, and better stuff to buy.

    TBH you have a better game. They lack graphics, grouping, compleity, diversity.... you lack their their pay to play integration.
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    And i say this next one withevery intention of being constructive
    Get the crap our if the plat store abd sell something worth buying.
    Rings are good, buy since they stop at 20 you only ever buy1..
    You weapons and are are laughable.. they dont even compare to game drops 10 levels lower...
    Put more OPTIONAL things ito the market that you cannot get elseware..Like adding procs to weapons etc.

    If STS made plat purchaseable items the best items in the game I would quit right on the spot and never look back. I was already pretty... Well "upset" (to say it nicely) about the implemation of luck enhancers and how they gave a HUGE unfair advantage to non plat players, as a "non plat player" myself, I almost quit when this happened. If the plat store sold the best gear this would just be another thing that the "wealthy" players could get and the "poor" couldn't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silentarrow View Post
    If STS made plat purchaseable items the best items in the game I would quit right on the spot and never look back. I was already pretty... Well "upset" (to say it nicely) about the implemation of luck enhancers and how they gave a HUGE unfair advantage to non plat players, as a "non plat player" myself, I almost quit when this happened. If the plat store sold the best gear this would just be another thing that the "wealthy" players could get and the "poor" couldn't.

    -Silent
    The dea is that item item in the shop dont best what u find...its as good in a ifferent way.. and have things that add to your dropped gear...


    The best part is you can be a plat player if they allowed oeople to sell plat in the market. Play would become a commodity.. the price will equalize and you could buy plat for gold if u needed it.brokers will buy a bulk if the plat, sell on market and then everyone is happy.
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    I understand that this is first and foremost a business, but two plat per run is excessive. One plat maybe, but not two. Keep it reasonable.


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    it is an awesome update!

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    Quote Originally Posted by drewcapu View Post
    not gonna bother if it's anything more than one flat fee per account

    sorry sts
    I CAN NOT BELIEVE THIS! How long have we been talking about and looking forward to the winter festival? Probably since the end of the last one! Building twinks, working on strategies, turning blind eyes to questionable STS practices, all in excitement of the Winter Festival. I met so many people during it last year, having a great time on my twinks interacting with, encouraging and helping new low level players. And now that is all gone. Well, MERRY CHRISTMAS!!!

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    Can somebody say the Grinch Stole Christmas? I know I can.

    Let me just get this straight about what we have.

    You promised us new items, that is correct. Wait, wut? ALL of the items cost platinum in one way or another?

    You promised us new content. Wait, wut? New content is the SAME map from last year with winter festival items that have new looks but the same stats? Allrighty...

    Let me calculate how long it will take me to farm items I want efficiently: Parenthesis stand for multiplication.

    (2P for 1 time access)(20 platinum for Shamrock Elixir to farm efficiently)(Roughly 5 runs in an hour?) So, this campaign can cost me anywhere from 10-50 platinum per hour? This is an all time low.

    I'm not sure if you guys realize, but MANY of the players of both SL and PL are at our last nerves for how expensive the game has gotten. I'm starting to see myself as a dollar value rather than a customer.

    I'm fine with paying for vanity packs. Paying per instance is crossing the line though and shows the greed I've been trying to deny for a while now.

    Thank you all for the wonderful Christmas and act of gift giving y'all have so spectacularly shown.

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    People are really mad, the community wants everyone to participate in the holidays and people have been antipating that. People just don't like it. The whole motto is, "Free to play", and even though we could go download 2 platinum from TapJoy, it's a little ridiculous. I hope this 4- hour elixir to access holiday content once, is a bug. I don't like the way STS is going. It looks like they are slowly emerging into a profit only game, and not the game that everyone loves because they don't have to pay. Last year, the one time fee to holiday content was perfect. Not many Christmas items from last year available. I hope this gets fixed. I can't bare to log on because of this rubbish!

    EDIT: I am also extremely unsatisfied with the 'chance' of a gingerbread man Vanity pet. What is this? So stupid that I had to spend 150 platinum just to get one, when I know it will be a 100 platinum or less in a month. What happened STS, what happened?
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