Leaderboards - Soliciting Community Thoughts

[Samhayne]

Hi everyone,

One suggestion we have been kicking around internally has been the addition of more leaderboards. This has been, in part, in response to the concern over the loss of twinks on leaderboards through the previous use of kill boosting (turning off xp and wading through lots of low level mobs to get a lot of kills). We've been thinking about the possible addition of:

1. Leaderboard for kills with xp turned off. We would keep track of kills made with xp turned off and have a separate leaderboard for them.
   
2. Leaderboard for kills made while not under the influence of an elixir

One problem with adding such leaderboards is that previous kills wouldn't count toward these new leaderboards.

I want to throw these ideas out there to foster some discussion about leaderboards. Please don't take this thread as an indication that we will implement such - as with many things in life, there are no guarantees. If we do put them in, I'm sure that your input could only make them better. I look forward to reading your thoughts.

[ninjaduck]

wow! These are really good!!!1!!1

[Draopwnzall]

What about the LB's for people that have reached a Level cap w/ out elixir's and/or with a 1.5 elixir?

[Silentarrow]

Good idea! If we do have our xp turned off, will it count towards our actual K/D or a seperate k/d? (on avatar page)

[Conradin]

Please sam! do it! Please!!!!!!!

[Samhayne]

Good idea! If we do have our xp turned off, will it count towards our actual K/D or a seperate k/d? (on avatar page)

It would be a separate kill count.

[bronislav84]

I like!

[Otukura]

If there's a leaderboard for XP turned off + no elixir, I like it. Might play a bit, JUST to ratio.

[Urqui]

Kills withouth elixer would be a range between 10k & 11k
Lol Awesome Idea looking forward to see new names up

[WoundedEagle]

Just revive kill boosting and I'll be happy. Nice idea's Sam and STS!

[Pwnage502]

Make a leaderboard for most money made so I can drool at the top amounts

[Slcinuup]

Cool

[Gaddy]

Leaderboards for specific periods of time. Say... Every month or so...

That way, if someone is totally domimating, they will eventually "win" their "session", and eventually someone else will have a shot.

On top of that there can be an "all time greatest"leaderboard.

my 2¢

[SUPAPRODIGY]

cool idea +1 so that means we can kill anything an it will increase our kill count.?

[Skeletonlord]

I like this idea for leaderboards. +1!

[wvhills]

IMO, you should do away with the xp anywhere elixir and restore being able to gain kills with xp turned off. You call it "kill boosting" but I don't think that's a proper term to use if it's a level appropriate dungeon for your character. For instance, if I disable xp on a level 35 toon I think I should be able to gain kills in the level 30-35 or level 35-40 dungeons. I feel like keeping the xp anywhere elixirs is the real "kill boosting" where a level 65 can go into balefort castle and and boost kills without being in any jeopardy whatsoever. This would restore twinking to some degree (even though I still wouldn't like the new drop mechanics) and I believe you would sell more plat with people buying extra character slots, the plat packs for equips and either the character upgrades or extra CS and inventory slots. I know the majority of the plat I've spent in game has been spent on new toons that I no longer play and I'm not creating any new toons under this current system (because I don't see any point in twinking now) or spending the plat on it. Just by my observation it doesn't seem like many people use the xp anywhere elixirs. But that's just my observation, I'm sure you have access to lots of data. I would advise looking to see how much plat you make selling these elixirs and compare it how much plat was spent when an existing player made a new twink. I bet you sold more plat for the new toons than you do on these elixirs.

In my view resetting the kill counts to zero (on leaderboards) would just push away many veteran players who are already steaming over some of the recent decisions you guys have made. That's just my 2 cents.

[drewcapu]

Take leaderboards out of the game and just put it on the website
In game just have a link. This gets people to the website who might ordinarily never use it. There's a lot more flexibility and possibilities that you can do via the website that would just be cramped and cluttered in game. Also, it's a good thing for people to be familiar with the website and the forums, right?

Divide the LB between "All-Time" and "Snapshots"
This is presuming there is no global reset of LB stats. I've always been interested in LB stats that take a snapshot of various stats, whether it is by current/previous day, week, month. But my favorite snapshot is the two-week period, a-la pay periods which are fixed instead of rolling. Such snapshots can be archived / searchable.

Added Stats
Kills are nice. But wouldn't you be curious to see who has killed Vlod the most? Who has killed Emma the most? Who has killed Meathead the most? LBs on boss kills would separate the farmers from the grinders.

Dungeons completed and Campaigns completed can be interesting stats. Sure someone can farm FH1 completions. But how many people can claim to have 500 Mount Fang FL3 Completions? 10 Shadow Caves Campaign Completions (beginning to end, first kill to last kill)?

With the idea of snapshots and the usage of elixirs, why not have a LB for experience earned and levels gained? Let's see who can power-level the best! Can anyone gain 59 Levels in a two-week snapshot?

Timed Stats (All-Time only)

With power leveling comes speed. And when you play with speed, you'll want to know who is the fastest! Whether it's map completions or campaign completions, it would be nice to have runs timed starting from the first hit (mob or player) to the last kill. And, when it comes to timed stats, the Level of all the players involved at the time of completion should be indicated so that we can see just how impressive it was. Timed stats would be interesting to see if they were subdivided by max half-decade level. After all, completing Victory Lap in record time with L65s just isn't as impressive as finishing it in record time with L50s (or 45s?)!

Guild Runs, Solo Runs
An interesting thing about Map/Campaign Completions and Boss Kills is, what if the system detected when such feats were completed by a guild (everyone in the run, beginning to end, was from the same Guild) or (gasp!) solo!?

[Rosybuds]

LoL .. so if You tick that Box Ur Kill Rate Goes Up when your in Lower Dungeons ! I Didn't Know That lol Now I Know Why My Kill Rate Is Lower than Other"s In My Level !!! As I Have Never Ticked That Box Since I Started Playing lol Well You Learn Something New Every Day !!! I Think That Would Be A Great Idea About The Seperate LeaderBoards .... Just a Pity Those of Us Who Have Never Ticked It Will Have to Start From Scatch As Im Sure Those Boards Would Change Immensely !!!

[WhoIsThis]

I'm not sure about this one ... do we need so many leaderboard categories at this point?

[maneatingtree]

Yay great idea! When will this be implemented? Hope that veteran rewards wont be pushed off for leader boards though! Priorites must be set!