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    To be honest, I gotta agree with rogues. I choose war mainly for protection. Yes I like to have dmg solely to speed up if no one joining me
    It's a struggle in a map with 3 wars :`)
    Warrior kill slow, die slow. Because progression of a warrior is slow, the value of a war is more than rogue
    Rogue kill fast, die fast. They have the upper advantage for low level maps but elite map it's a suicide
    Mage help war and rog to replenish their mana and stunt mob so it won't kill a war while his tanking a group of mob. Mage do dmg too

    What made war lose his role? Defense arcane ability pet. Example glow and nekro. This is the reason why warriors are not wanted in map
    (according to my whole experience)

    Now the point is of this thread that, encryption wants a buff with arcane weapon. Why? If you compare a lv71 ebon sword and a lv76 skull donzer, ebon sword deal more damage (proc) than a skull dozer. The reason of this buff is to equal with ebon sword/bow proc damage or surpass and fit at lv76 arcane weapon. This part I agree with OP

    Hope I clarify things.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jairus980 View Post
    To be honest, I gotta agree with rogues. I choose war mainly for protection. Yes I like to have dmg solely to speed up if no one joining me
    It's a struggle in a map with 3 wars :`)
    Warrior kill slow, die slow. Because progression of a warrior is slow, the value of a war is more than rogue
    Rogue kill fast, die fast. They have the upper advantage for low level maps but elite map it's a suicide
    Mage help war and rog to replenish their mana and stunt mob so it won't kill a war while his tanking a group of mob. Mage do dmg too

    What made war lose his role? Defense arcane ability pet. Example glow and nekro. This is the reason why warriors are not wanted in map
    (according to my whole experience)

    Now the point is of this thread that, encryption wants a buff with arcane weapon. Why? If you compare a lv71 ebon sword and a lv76 skull donzer, ebon sword deal more damage (proc) than a skull dozer. The reason of this buff is to equal with ebon sword/bow proc damage or surpass and fit at lv76 arcane weapon. This part I agree with OP

    Hope I clarify things.
    I agree your POV was true until level 66 (for me it was) but after that it is a completely different story, especially when ebon weapon came out, i have run mausoleum and nightmare map with rogue and mage who didn't need my healing skills anymore(only place i use heal is in pvp), they had plenty enough of those armor and HP awakens, and i always have plenty of invite from all classes, so if warrior are not suppose to be damage dealer why we have weapon like ebon aegis? why do we have solo mode in new map or in temple challenge? Why do we have 4 attack skills? it is obvious, it mean all class can be damage dealer(or should i say should be) if they want to.

    the way i am set i often duo mausoleum with some of my rogue or mage friends who are equipped with full arcane but ss faster then when i am with a full pt, we don't have gl on our gears as we mostly farm token there, and mostly we enjoy doing this map with the benefit of our gears we have acquired by playing for years!!

    So now to the point of this thread of course new arcane weapon need to be buff to be more op than the level 71 arcane weapon.

    Hope I clarify things too.

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    Skull dozer 1.9k-3k per tick ...my war damage is nearly 4k...

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    Quote Originally Posted by danialazhad63 View Post
    Skull dozer 1.9k-3k per tick ...my war damage is nearly 4k...

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    ok, and how much is ebon sword proc damage?
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    Dont get me wrong but the only useful post I found is the 1st one with videos which only shows that sword proc damage needs buff in PvP.

    The problem with this thread is that it has too many posts with rants/insults/out of topic info/nonsense xD, and very less posts on data/numbers that can help devs fix the issue. I find such threads a waste of time for the readers (devs or players looking for info).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alexios View Post
    Dont get me wrong but the only useful post I found is the 1st one with videos which only shows that sword proc damage needs buff in PvP.

    The problem with this thread is that it has too many posts with rants/insults/out of topic info/nonsense xD, and very less posts on data/numbers that can help devs fix the issue. I find such threads a waste of time for the readers (devs or players looking for info).
    Right we need to respect every ones opinion, not to insult. If have a suggestion go not to trashtalk or something to down or laugh the other reply.



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    Some ppl told that warriors are not meant to do damage... I agree in parts, because in the current state of the game, I mean, in PvE, damage is the main stat, so, I think its unfair for the class that cant do significant damage...

    Look at all elite runs leaderboards... You will find only rogues, because if u want to finish a map fast you will just want damage.

    If tou want to farm a lot of gold, you need to finish the map quickest possible, then you will want only damage on your team. Just ask to yourself, would you prefer to run ESG with 3 warriors or 3 rogues/mages?


    Ebon Aegis imo changed this a bit, your normal damage still normal for a “warrior class” but the weapon proc helped a lot...


    So, just for conclusion, I have no problem in being a protector, but this must be something useful, something that ppl really need... I don’t want to be called just for some maps like mauso where u just need my axe to pull bosses


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    All 76 arc weapons ned to b buff in pvp n little in pve to hav some fun.. unless it's useless to call lvl76 arc weapons

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    Added video about the bow to.
    The bow procs so much more than the sword but they both need a dmg boost.
    https://youtu.be/5YIvUdNBNpM

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    Quote Originally Posted by Encryptions View Post
    Added video about the bow to.
    testing pve weapon in pvp ...? try proc on bosses, it deals thousands of dmg
    we already have broken ebon sword proc which deals a lot of dmg per tick in pvp and cant be countered, no need more op procs in pvp
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    Quote Originally Posted by slaaayerrr View Post
    testing pve weapon in pvp ...? try proc on bosses, it deals thousands of dmg
    we already have broken ebon sword proc which deals a lot of dmg per tick in pvp and cant be countered, no need more op procs in pvp
    How about skull dozer axe? If you say its pve then why it is weak ....to proc really hard and the proc damage dealt are low...I tried solo valley frontier and total time taken about more than 25 minutes to kill all include the skull dozer boss

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    Quote Originally Posted by danialazhad63 View Post
    How about skull dozer axe? If you say its pve then why it is weak ....to proc really hard and the proc damage dealt are low...I tried solo valley frontier and total time taken about more than 25 minutes to kill all include the skull dozer boss

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    I just tried this map Solo. It took me 6 mins. Same stats I posted up above. TB+ SS= Pull Set and Lvl 76 Axe+ Full 71 Arc Items minus Lvl 76 AA= Damage Set. Skills CS, Windmill, Axe, VB. Heroic Sam Base and HB with Magma AA.

    Now I ran both these maps like I would do normally. TB is standard for me. I would never run a map without it, It makes cleaner faster runs. It's the best Pull Wep in game and until Sts makes something better I will continue to use from here on out as part of my Pull Set. I understand not everyone uses 2 Weps or can afford having both.

    I'm not trying to discredit any Wars experiance with using the Lvl 76 Axe. My Stats are different than 99.9% of the Wars in this game. I just wanted to post my experiance using it. I like the Wep alot and it's refreshing not having to worry about getting hit to do Proc Damage as well as Mage/Pet Stuns. One of the biggest things I didn't like about Ebon Aegis.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fearrr View Post
    I just tried this map Solo. It took me 6 mins. Same stats I posted up above. TB+ SS= Pull Set and Lvl 76 Axe+ Full 71 Arc Items minus Lvl 76 AA= Damage Set. Skills CS, Windmill, Axe, VB. Heroic Sam Base and HB with Magma AA.

    Now I ran both these maps like I would do normally. TB is standard for me. I would never run a map without it, It makes cleaner faster runs. It's the best Pull Wep in game and until Sts makes something better I will continue to use from here on out as part of my Pull Set. I understand not everyone uses 2 Weps or can afford having both.

    I'm not trying to discredit any Wars experiance with using the Lvl 76 Axe. My Stats are different than 99.9% of the Wars in this game. I just wanted to post my experiance using it. I like the Wep alot and it's refreshing not having to worry about getting hit to do Proc Damage as well as Mage/Pet Stuns. One of the biggest things I didn't like about Ebon Aegis.
    Well...as you said your damage and stats are different then most of warriors and u got other weapon (tb) thats why u feel no problem with the dozer...but don't just think about yourself...you are rich so, you can say that...but its isn't fair for other warriors that can't afford to make theirs stats op just to make the dozer damage proc better...when i ask other warriors in game about the dozer most of them said that its not what a lv76 arcane weapon should be...well if u dont believe u can ask other warriors with average stats

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    If wars are so good in pve then why can't a single war get on hydra lb or ork lb? I would bet 50m that no warrior can be on #1 in fly ork lb.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Encryptions View Post
    If wars are so good in pve then why can't a single war get on hydra lb or ork lb? I would bet 50m that no warrior can be on #1 in fly ork lb.
    because rogues best as single target dd? not rogue's fault those 2 maps designed as that, orrick still has 3 bugs which allows rogue farm it solo, i've mentioned it many times, nobody cares lol, nobody even posted in bugs but everyone crying, nice nice...

    i would bet 50m that no rogue/mage can farm 150 weak jewels per 1 elix (especially only with outdated old lvl46 weapon), and its real farm, hydra/orrick is just a joke no use of those maps, just flex of ugly badges

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    You people cry a lot about war not doing damage. Have you ever thought of combo damage? (pointing out towards the rich people)

    Heck I do way more than rogue. Even my rogue friend get jealous.
    Ik it's one time combo but I bet you not gonna use it on mobs right?

    Instead of playing dumb, why not try to play smart.

    The top post is ebon armor + rage ultimate combo
    The bottom is ebon armor + rage ultimate + guinevere aa combo (I don't own guin ^-^`)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jairus980 View Post
    You people cry a lot about war not doing damage. Have you ever thought of combo damage? (pointing out towards the rich people)

    Heck I do way more than rogue. Even my rogue friend get jealous.
    Ik it's one time combo but I bet you not gonna use it on mobs right?

    Instead of playing dumb, why not try to play smart.

    The top post is ebon armor + rage ultimate combo
    The bottom is ebon armor + rage ultimate + guinevere aa combo (I don't own guin ^-^`)
    Dude now u are indeed a fat rogue lol XD That’s insanity


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    Quote Originally Posted by Jairus980 View Post
    You people cry a lot about war not doing damage. Have you ever thought of combo damage? (pointing out towards the rich people)

    Heck I do way more than rogue. Even my rogue friend get jealous.
    Ik it's one time combo but I bet you not gonna use it on mobs right?

    Instead of playing dumb, why not try to play smart.

    The top post is ebon armor + rage ultimate combo
    The bottom is ebon armor + rage ultimate + guinevere aa combo (I don't own guin ^-^`)
    The ultimate only last 15 sec so u can only use it once against boss usually and there is no ultimate in pvp, the point of this thread is to say that new arcane 76 is less efficient than the 71

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    jy is righ im a old warior player and i do solo when the spirit first release. i put my crit 70% and damage 3k i can do solo with putting right skill and a right combo

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    Not sure if anyones mentioned it already but the devs did say on chatbox that they will look into Weapon Balance sometime soon

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