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[Silentkill]

I created this thread solely for the purpose of 1 simple question to be answered from Cinco or Futumsh.

Why is this the only game I play where the newest maps are not the most lucrative maps to farm, like literally a map which is 3 (?) years old (ESG) is the most lucrative way to farm for income.
Its ridiculous, if it was only me deciding, I would remove 100% of the gold drop there.

So my question is: Why have you, till this day, not ever thought about removing the gold drop from ESG, and applying these gold drops to the newer maps for example MOGERA LAIR or the portals in Vardan Valley.

In my eyes, its a shame for your own work that you force players to go into a 3 year old map to get income, instead of making them want to play the new maps that you worked for, that you created, that you put hours into to launch them.

I do not understand and never will unless Cinco or Futumsh replies, thanks, looking forward to it.

[Ebereasider]

I asked the same thing in chatbox few hours ago, but no answer yet. Good luck on getting an answer

[Lethoiun]

Why you mad,

The one percent shouldnt be deciding and it's not up to you.

If it is removed then we need another gl source

[Cinco]

Why you mad,

The one percent shouldnt be deciding and it's not up to you.

If it is removed then we need another gl source

Your source will be Vardan Valley. Sound good? :-)

[Silentkill]

Your source will be Vardan Valley. Sound good? :-)

Sounds perfect. Thanks for the quick answer.

[Lethoiun]

Your source will be Vardan Valley. Sound good? :-)

Thats a great idea!

[Cinco]

I have thought about it.

[zakyu]

Thumbs up for this thread👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼

[Ebereasider]

I have thought about it.

Good to know that you have thought about it, but may we know the reason for deciding against the nerf after thinking about it? Why keeping newer maps inferior to 3 years old maps?

[TheBlairWitch]

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[Encryptions]

A way to keep people farming maps are to add pure gold to vendors for tokens. Now don't screw players over and put 10k gold for 1500 tokens in the new map. Be like 500 tokens for 20k gold.
You guys have maus tokens for gold, add glint/cryo coins for gold. 1000x cryo for 150k gold. 500 glintstone for 100k, 900 glint coins which is currently 90k>x gets you a 800k hex staff.
Do keep gold drop in the new maps, blue portal boss drops 5k base gold, can be improved with gold loot. Boss per round in red portal base drop is 1k~ and can be improved by gl.
In the hole map; make boss base drop 7k and max 50k from gl. I mean bosses in swamp give 180k gold with gl.

Add a weapon that lets gold burst proc which grants you 100-400 gold and has a 2% chance to proc per enemy killed. Just a weap idea.

[Cinco]

A way to keep people farming maps are to add pure gold to vendors for tokens. Now don't screw players over and put 10k gold for 1500 tokens in the new map. Be like 500 tokens for 20k gold.
You guys have maus tokens for gold, add glint/cryo coins for gold. 1000x cryo for 150k gold. 500 glintstone for 100k, 900 glint coins which is currently 90k>x gets you a 800k hex staff.
Do keep gold drop in the new maps, blue portal boss drops 5k base gold, can be improved with gold loot. Boss per round in red portal base drop is 1k~ and can be improved by gl.
In the hole map; make boss base drop 7k and max 50k from gl. I mean bosses in swamp give 180k gold with gl.

Add a weapon that lets gold burst proc which grants you 100-400 gold and has a 2% chance to proc per enemy killed. Just a weap idea.

If I understand this suggestion - it doesn't make any sense. Maybe I'm missing something? Feel free to rephrase.

[Encryptions]

If I understand this suggestion - it doesn't make any sense. Maybe I'm missing something? Feel free to rephrase.

The tokens in the new map, the ones we get for completing portals, vales. We get up to 100+ in the red portal per run usually if it is a high wave. 30 per run in the blue portal. If the vendor Goody Wells had gold for sale, 10k gold per 100 vales (tokens.)

To keep players in elite underhul/glintstone; let those cryo and glint coins be traded for gold to the vendors to since there are millions of those tokens in game.

Maybe 10 story tokens for 25k gold for the guy in windmoore, red eggs may be nerfed a bit for story tokens if this is added.

In the portals, bosses can also drop (with 0 gl) 6k gold in blue portals and 1k per boss in red portals since red is never ending. Gold loot can also work on these portals.

In the lair with the spider boss, let enemies have a chance to drop 100 gold per kill and the boss drop up to 7k when it is dead. GL also works here to.

[Cinco]

The tokens in the new map, the ones we get for completing portals, vales. We get up to 100+ in the red portal per run usually if it is a high wave. 30 per run in the blue portal. If the vendor Goody Wells had gold for sale, 10k gold per 100 vales (tokens.)

To keep players in elite underhul/glintstone; let those cryo and glint coins be traded for gold to the vendors to since there are millions of those tokens in game.

Maybe 10 story tokens for 25k gold for the guy in windmoore, red eggs may be nerfed a bit for story tokens if this is added.

In the portals, bosses can also drop (with 0 gl) 6k gold in blue portals and 1k per boss in red portals since red is never ending. Gold loot can also work on these portals.

In the lair with the spider boss, let enemies have a chance to drop 100 gold per kill and the boss drop up to 7k when it is dead. GL also works here to.

Okay. I do understand - and I think this would make inflation quite a bit worse (until other issues are solved). I'll honor the request to massively nerf ESG and buff Vardan then we will see about involving other currencies in the gold economy.

[|Ares|]

Okay. I do understand - and I think this would make inflation quite a bit worse (until other issues are solved). I'll honor the request to massively nerf ESG and buff Vardan then we will see about involving other currencies in the gold economy.

Have you guys ever thought of going back into 5 map expansion mode, setting new loot, achievements and loot table there? Might sound nostalgic but can you remember how success the Kraken and Nordr expansions were back in the day? I believe new players apart from old ones would enjoy that.

[Deuteronomy]

Okay. I do understand - and I think this would make inflation quite a bit worse (until other issues are solved). I'll honor the request to massively nerf ESG and buff Vardan then we will see about involving other currencies in the gold economy.

Aww man, I feel so

Time to curl up in my bed and cry.

[Alexios]

The tokens in the new map, the ones we get for completing portals, vales. We get up to 100+ in the red portal per run usually if it is a high wave. 30 per run in the blue portal. If the vendor Goody Wells had gold for sale, 10k gold per 100 vales (tokens.)

To keep players in elite underhul/glintstone; let those cryo and glint coins be traded for gold to the vendors to since there are millions of those tokens in game.

Maybe 10 story tokens for 25k gold for the guy in windmoore, red eggs may be nerfed a bit for story tokens if this is added.

In the portals, bosses can also drop (with 0 gl) 6k gold in blue portals and 1k per boss in red portals since red is never ending. Gold loot can also work on these portals.

In the lair with the spider boss, let enemies have a chance to drop 100 gold per kill and the boss drop up to 7k when it is dead. GL also works here to.

Okay. I do understand - and I think this would make inflation quite a bit worse (until other issues are solved). I'll honor the request to massively nerf ESG and buff Vardan then we will see about involving other currencies in the gold economy.

Tokens for gold is a good idea and it is already there for Mausoleum balance tokens. You get a 10k gold chest for 25 tokens.
The benefit of this idea is:
1) It will help new players who don't have gold loot items.
2) Gold loot multipliers don't apply to this so the payout will be equal to the effort.
3) Will help reduce the gap between rich and poor. (Because most rich players are lazy )
4) All of the above will help reduce the inflation.

Dont worry gold loot gear will still be useful, you can use them in Mausoleum and the Pirate Booty events.
I think the major issue with ESG was that it was too easy to make gold there which increased the inflation, Maus on the other hand takes time and team work, so it should be the only place for gold loot multipliers.

[Crocodile]

Okay. I do understand - and I think this would make inflation quite a bit worse (until other issues are solved). I'll honor the request to massively nerf ESG and buff Vardan then we will see about involving other currencies in the gold economy.

Well..pilot test for 2 weeks maybe can relieve your hesitation prior massive nerf.

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[MømøVęliåDęvīlükē61239]

Maybe sts can hire you to make new maps, or maybe you can pay them to make new apps, if.your just a normal player who dosnt contribute to the game, why u asking for new maps XD

Man sts devs sure getting alot of crap from players lately

[Cinco]

Maybe sts can hire you to make new maps, or maybe you can pay them to make new apps, if.your just a normal player who dosnt contribute to the game, why u asking for new maps XD

Man sts devs sure getting alot of crap from players lately

You must be new ;-)