Change my mind- mage ult meteor is inferior to energize

[Stephencobear]

Hi mages,
Why spec meteor?

I get that anyone can do what they want but, in what instance is meteor better than energize?
Refute or pls stop w the pretty fireworks wkwkwkhuehuehue

Don’t make me mention heal smh, just stop,
Ty lol, have a good day.

[will0]

meteor - non for me ... energize rules .. the shield is useless too unless it is like nekro shield or better

[Dropdamic]

Completely agree +1!

[FeelingLazy]

Amazing ult and probably the best in the game.

[Bluehazee]

It has been like this since ultimates released
If you wait for energize when all skills are ready to use, can overlap 3 shields in a row and boost your pt dmg, plus all weapons can proc easier due to haste boost on auto attack.
Only situation where meteor is useful is when ebon armor proc is up, but still dmg range is too big imo (for example can do 125k - 950k dmg, big difference) and very short window to use it.
I still see many mages using meteor with str build....

[QuaseT]

Meteor is very op for hardcore. And the shield ult can be used for harder maps with giants if u made a fault in ur movement.

[Stephencobear]

Meteor is very op for hardcore. And the shield ult can be used for harder maps with giants if u made a fault in ur movement.

Ok, good point that hc may make a difference, and many hc may be subject to the difference of having to play alone (or not if lucky). Another difference might be if hc uses plat but that’s another complication.
Let me try to show simply with numbers.

Let’s say you only have two attacks, maybe fire and lightning. Energize lasts about ten seconds, those 2 skills mentioned recharge nearly every second. Yet I’ll be conservative n say u get off 9 of those 2 skills in that time.
Fire 5k x 9 = 45k plus 10 x 9 = 90. 135k over 9 sec.

Meteor damage ranges 106 -255k

Essentially even if you are alone and using only two damage skills you are comparable to the meteor ult.
If you have 3 damage skills the chance is even better, if you have one partner your overall damage output jumps exponentially.
With 2 ppl that damage again jumps exponentially.

Meteor can’t compare in general, I just don’t see it o.O

[arcanefid]

Ok, good point that hc may make a difference, and many hc may be subject to the difference of having to play alone (or not if lucky). Another difference might be if hc uses plat but that’s another complication.
Let me try to show simply with numbers.

Let’s say you only have two attacks, maybe fire and lightning. Energize lasts about ten seconds, those 2 skills mentioned recharge nearly every second. Yet I’ll be conservative n say u get off 9 of those 2 skills in that time.
Fire 5k x 9 = 45k plus 10 x 9 = 90. 135k over 9 sec.

Meteor damage ranges 106 -255k

Essentially even if you are alone and using only two damage skills you are comparable to the meteor ult.
If you have 3 damage skills the chance is even better, if you have one partner your overall damage output jumps exponentially.
With 2 ppl that damage again jumps exponentially.

Meteor can’t compare in general, I just don’t see it o.O

Maybe sometimes it is better to do 50K damage in one second than 1,000,000 damage in 9 seconds. Sometimes time is not on your side. :P

[Kystone]

Speak louder for the mages in the back still using flame staff with meteor

[Allset]

Energizer is probably the best ultimate in the game because it let's you and everyone in your group go HAM with your powers for at least 6 seconds. It might even be a few more seconds than that

Rogue

[Deuteronomy]

Energizer is probably the best ultimate in the game because it let's you and everyone in your group go HAM with your powers for at least 6 seconds. It might even be a few more seconds than that

Rogue

Rogue refuel is the best PVE ulti, it only sucks when stupid rogues use it at the wrong moment.

[Dropdamic]

Rogue refuel is the best PVE ulti, it only sucks when stupid rogues use it at the wrong moment.

Refuel is for people who dont have speed sets.

[Allset]

Rogue refuel is the best PVE ulti, it only sucks when stupid rogues use it at the wrong moment.

That's a cute point of view. I have a speed set I switch to, so I feel it's a waste. I don't use any rogue utilities. I put all those points into masteries and if I had to use one it would be Ultimate Aimed Shot for boss damage. If rogue's had Energizer I would use it because it turns my character into a lawnmower when a mage use it.

Rogue

[Deuteronomy]

Energize is a dumb PVE ulti.. In PVE, meteor is much more useful. I ran fester with another mage and the meteor was a god send. Energize is stupid in PVE and probably best in PVP.

[Dropdamic]

Energize is a dumb PVE ulti.. In PVE, meteor is much more useful. I ran fester with another mage and the meteor was a god send. Energize is stupid in PVE and probably best in PVP.

Lol! Ultimates dont work in pvp.

[Bluehazee]

Energize is a dumb PVE ulti.. In PVE, meteor is much more useful. I ran fester with another mage and the meteor was a god send. Energize is stupid in PVE and probably best in PVP.

XDD

Im speechless

[slaaayerrr]

Energize is a dumb PVE ulti.. In PVE, meteor is much more useful. I ran fester with another mage and the meteor was a god send. Energize is stupid in PVE and probably best in PVP.

May i know your ign?

[Deuteronomy]

May i know your ign?

No you may not. Like I said, energize is a dumb PVE ultimate period. Refuel is better because no mana cost. You get attacks off much better with refuel. Energize runs out of mana too fast.

[slaaayerrr]

Like I said, energize is a dumb PVE ultimate period. Energize runs out of mana too fast.

and in pvp energize is best, right?
what about rogue? which ultimate is better for PVP? refuel or aim shot?

jokes aside, just dont be so nervous when u are trying to prove some dumb things, there are many idiots in game, u are not only the one

[EpicX]

and in pvp energize is best, right?
what about rogue? which ultimate is better for PVP? refuel or aim shot?

well it must be! can spam skills and get kills easier in pvp that way. Just lurk around and use energize to kill all enemy. gg ez.