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Holy crap... long posts are attacking!!
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No you didn't. If you have vast MMO experience than you know that mmorpg's have MASSIVE, MASSIVE mulitple databases online. Some of the best ones are 3rd-party. But, the offical ones usually have something valuable to offer up. Attached to these databases were discussion forums.Originally Posted by Sapient:540033
I used to dual-box and have a third connection up with multiple windows open with different databases from US and foriegn sites.
Also, before the f2p model hit the scene and took over, MMORPGs had commercial player's guides that also contained MASSIVE, HUGE quantities of information. Generally, there were more than one commercial player's guide.
Other than the type of thing STS is already doing, there was not that much info in-game. In fact, the idea is ridiculous.
If you got some actual ideas, provide those, but, otherwise your complaint is not constructive.
If players want to enhance their experience, it is up to them to take charge and be responsible for their own game. The game company doesn't have to spoon feed them info.
That's what I said, no need to twist my words. Why would someone pay for something without getting something in return. This is kinda a no-brainer.
But, otoh, why would anyone in their right mind think that they are going to get some sort of major rare everytime they spend 14 cents, lol.
The milions and millions of casual gamers don't think that.
Last edited by Aikiebo; 01-14-2012 at 09:43 PM.
"How Wude! Mesa your humble Servant."
"You can argue with me, but you can't aruge with the math." Foghorn Leghorn, 20th Century American Philospher
Call me crazy but a few line of text before the player confirms spending the plat in game explaining that the reward is "time" (concept a bit foreign to me, but whatever) would take about 5 minutes to implement and clear things up for everyone?
This should be a recommendation not a never ending debate. lol
Because I am giving a helpful suggestion that I intended to help players understand better in the game. In return I am being barraged by endless lines of text telling me I am wrong for giving opinions and suggestions for the better of the game. Do me a favor and please do not reply back if you don't have anything constructive to say.
You answered your own question in a further post..
Are you telling me if I wasn't a forum user i do not deserve to know what I'm purchasing? Anything that requires plat/real money, should be fully explained IN GAME, not left to AoA/GoA etc (though AoA is for beginners right? Not to do STS job of informing players what an in game purchase does) or expected that users need to use the forums.This is kinda a no-brainer.
Maybe its just me but this kind of logic your referring to, is illogical.
Still trying to comprehend how 2k+ can die from Barrels O.o
The OP made complete sense and shouldn't be attacked for his questions and suggestions.
Hey!
The 'no brainer' remark was talking about something else. If you actually read what I wrote, you will see that when I said 'no brainer' I was actually basically agreeing with Sapient. He said that when people spend money they want to get something in return. I said, yes, 'that is true'. In fact, that is true anywhere in the world. That is so obvious it, is a 'no brainer'.
The GoA/AoA thing was totally not my idea. I think it was Sapients. I wouldn't agree with them having any sort of responsiblilty in this matter.
There is absolutely no reason that STS needs to explain any more than they already have 'in-game'. If a player wants more information, they should come to the forums. STS has gone out of their way to explain this info.
If they wanted to do some in-game thing, they could, of course. There is just no reason they should have to.
@BigBah I agree.
"How Wude! Mesa your humble Servant."
"You can argue with me, but you can't aruge with the math." Foghorn Leghorn, 20th Century American Philospher
Let's have some fun!!
Let's go to GameStop.
Oh look, there is only two customers in the store. And they're standing in line (the clerk is ignoring them cuz he is on the phone chatting up his girlfriend, lol).
They both have $60 in their hand. And they are both planning on buying the same game.
Now Guy A, is not, well, not all that smart. He, basically has no idea why he is going to spend $60 on this game. He doesn't know anything about it at all. But for some reason, the title seems cool or he likes the artwork on the box. But, other than that he doesn't know anything at about the game. Why?
Because he didn't take responsibility for his own actions.
Guy B is way, way, way smart. He knows a lot about the game he is about to spend $60 on. How? Well, he took responsibility. He read several reviews. Some of those reviews were online and some were in magazines. He went to the developer's offical web site for the game and read info. He went to gaming forums and read those folks' comments. He talked to his friends online and in real-life.
See, Guy B took responsibilty for himself and was pro-active.
So, finally the clerk gets off the phone. The two guys buy their game and go home. Chances are Guy B is happy with the game. But, oh no!! Guy B plays the game for a few hours and hates it. It SUCKS!! How awful. $60 down the drain. Actually, all Guy B has to do is put the disc back in the box, make sure the instruction book is there and go back to GameStop and they will refund his money. NOT
In fact, he will not get a refund.
No gamer ever knows exactly what he is going to get before he buys a game. There are thousands and thousands of things that the gamer will find out ONLY ONE WAY. The only way he can find all there is to know about the game is by actually playing it. And playing it for a long, long time.
No video game company has to explain every little detail about a game to someone before they buy it. That would be impossible.
Last edited by Aikiebo; 01-16-2012 at 11:06 AM.
"How Wude! Mesa your humble Servant."
"You can argue with me, but you can't aruge with the math." Foghorn Leghorn, 20th Century American Philospher
Your concept of logic is unlike any in this thread. We are all entitled to our opinions, do not drill us into the ground for expressing them. Just because you disagree doesn't mean you can use 1,343 words. The average highschool essay is 700-1,000 words, you have written a entire essay on why your right and why we are wrong.
Best part is you do not represent STS in any way. How do you know that what you say is what is best for the game? The entire point of the forums is to give feedback and to seek support from other players or administrators. You need to re-assess your logic, because everything you post is counter productive, and not remotely constructive or even on topic with the thread.
@sapient:
You know the saying "if you can't dazzle 'em with brilliance, then baffle 'em with BS"?
A certain poster works in this exact manner -- just ignore him, since any reply generates another 1000 words essay of random numbers and illogic.
^^ Dazzled with brilliance.
Sapient, there is no reason to get so upset. Hmm... It's unhealthy also. Your post, is quite the flame. No need to be so upset.
I think if you try real hard, you'll see that the posts of mine couldn't be more friendly.
You know, it's knd of funny. Your first post EVER on this forum was - you drilling me into the ground. Think real hard, you'll know what I mean. I have been patient. Because there is no reason to get so irate over internet posts, lol. There have been other posts where you - drilled me into the ground. Still, I have been patient. This post, NOW, is another good example. You are the only one upset and 'drilling anyone into the ground'.
It is hypocritical to critisize me for something I am not even doing and you are doing big time,
My posts have been friendly. Yours have been irrate.
That was kinda a wild guess there on the "1,343" words. LOL I mean not even close. Might want to take a look at the real word count in the spoiler.
There are only 371 words in my last post.
Not 1,343 as you said. Do you not know how to count? You should try real hard to be accurate, so that you don't give a false figure. Or do you not know the difference between a word count and a stroke count? But, even if you were talking about older posts, you and I both know, that word count is not as important as substance.
And as you know, if you think a post is inappropriate YOUR ONLY RECOURSE is to report it. Being all rude and flaming someone isn't going to help or resolve anything.
You are giving your opinions as tho you think you know what is best for the game. Difference between me and you, so far, is that I back up my opinions. You just make the wild statements and never even try to provide supporting details.
You were saying that STS was in the wrong for not making it clear about the 3-plat per run thing. You said this several times. I showed that what STS is doing is exactly what they should be doing. I showed that very clearly. And now you seem very upset.
You a bit mixed up on the purpose of the forums. I think you know how to get to the rules:
In the first two paragraphs of the forum rules it says the purpose of the forum is for: 1. For constructive discussion 2. To provide a platform for the exchange of ideas 3. To debate an opinion but critisism of the person is not allowed.
It cracks me up, that you are making up rules, being rude to me cuz I'm not following your made up rules. And, while you are doing this you violate so many of the rules, lol. Doesn't that seem a bit hypcritical?
ANY idea posted on the forum is open for discussion and debate. If you don't want your idea discussed, cuz you're afraid it's not too logical, then don't post it on the forum is my suggestion. Simply PM a dev. But, if it appears on the forum, it will be discussed.
Obviosuly, the only one acting in an inappropriate way, is yourself.
I hope you can calm down. Take a breather, maybe.
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Last edited by Aikiebo; 01-16-2012 at 09:03 PM.
"How Wude! Mesa your humble Servant."
"You can argue with me, but you can't aruge with the math." Foghorn Leghorn, 20th Century American Philospher
You frogot that guy A is the not so smart shopper. In the scenario you frogot to swap B with A. So shopper A doesn't really like the game he never reviewed. Just a small fix.
Last edited by Cahaun; 01-16-2012 at 09:27 PM.
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I'm not reading this. Goodbye fanboy.
You frogot that guy A is the not so smart shopper.[/QUOTE]
Ha, ha, ha, very funny, lol.
The reason I posted the story, is because someone was taking this tiny, tiny little point and blowing it up like it was some kind of huge deal, lol. It was just something to complain about.
In the scenario, no one knows if Guy A liked the game. It's not important. The point is that in a video game there are at least 10,000 tiny details to know/learn. A video game company is not going to explain everyone of those details. IT IS IMPOSSIBLE. That is why discussion forums and in-game guilds are created.
Guy B, that poor thing, he tried so hard to research the game before he bought it. But, that's my point, there are 10,000 tiny details. The only way you are gonna learn them is by playing the game. A gamer is not gonna be spoon fed info by devs. A gamer is also not gonna get a refund if he learns details that he doesn't like.
My point: What STS is doing is exactly like EVERY OTHER VIDEO GAME COMPANY. No point getting all mad. But, if you do, gotta be mad at the industry not just one company.
Bottom line: I hope Guy A ends up liking the game. And I hope Guy B didn't rage quit GameStop, LOL.
Last edited by Aikiebo; 01-17-2012 at 12:55 PM.
"How Wude! Mesa your humble Servant."
"You can argue with me, but you can't aruge with the math." Foghorn Leghorn, 20th Century American Philospher
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