Originally Posted by
Marosok
My point of view on PvE complaint related to warrior class (from, i hope, experienced warrior)
You canīt be serious lady/sir. Do you want some facts about PvE from warrior perspective? I will just share 2 of my replies.
Fair for all classes? Where were you for last year and a half? I donīt see any other class, than rogues dominating Hydra/Orrick LB (with 1 mage now). Gosh, i canīt even charge my axe skill within 3 seconds (Orrick lb time). Do you see tanks create threads about it. Those are 2 maps. Gates are single map, where warrior is more viable and you seem are loosing it a little bit more than is healthy. Did i just say word warrior in combination with more viable in Gates? Sorry, i meant only warrior, who spend over 100mil for skull weapon, top gear and awaken -this warrior is viable in group gates, Deep Marsh, literally everywhere in PvE, but still canīt do big things, while pink geared rogue with ebon bow and bd can do just fine on every map. Does this sound fair to you? Letīs continue. Explain to me, please, how total destruction of one class (warrior) will help you in PvE? Yes, i am telling destruction, because all maps (except gates) are nothing else than best place to phew phew spam skills tactic invented by rogues. Is it bothering you to have more options for faster PvE maps? So behind this all "fair pve for everyone" how many PvE aspects you took in consideration other than "i want be best again" ? Do you think warriors core mechanisms pull/taunt/heal are needed on any map except Gates? Is it fair to have maps, where 1 class "main role =tanking= like many of you like to say" is absolutely irrelevant? Letīs continue and talk about last expansion. I played both, top geared warrior and legendary geared rogue. Which one class you think was and is still better on fester expansion maps? All fester maps (last cap hardest content) were dominated by 4x rogue parties and i have not seen anyone complain about it as frequently, as some do now about warriors. Your "fair PvE for all classes" will solve nothing, but destroy warrior class completely for endgame PvE and warriors like me, who spent ridiculous amount of gold collected by many years of playing this game. Did you ever try play as an warrior with ebon sword in Deep Marsh and as an legendary geared rogue with ebon bow there? This was the meta of last expansion, and once again, i have not seen any complaint from warriors. Well, you can do it now, lets share your findings and tell us more about fair PvE for all classes.
I am not sure if you know this, but i will ask: Are you aware of fact, that there is SOLO Gates LB for each class, and you canīt end up on warrior solo LB, when you are other class user? You think it is all about using mighty multi proc you saw? Well, all i can say is buy those weapons and go try solo as an warrior, feel free to share your result/ your LB position here with me. It is more about using environment in your benefit and know when to dodge = use head one might say. 9/10 DPS class i play with in group Gates just doing phew phew skills tactic, moving in front of spider/s when spiders do their red zone attack and after IK they are curious why that happened, while simple move to the left/right would save them. One harder map (running for how long? 3 months? Lb Gates not even month) in 2 years and some rogues canīt accept the fact, that there exist another class, that is good for PvE. And that "other class" must buy everything in this game just to keep up with rogue with duggar bow. To be clear, it is completely not possible to do group Gates LB without 1-2 good rogues.
You want know what was really unfair? Playing last lvl cap endgame map (Deep Marsh), where 4x average rogues with legendary gear + ebon bow were farming deep within 10 minutes, while best geared wars were struggling to end the map in 20 minutes +. Amount of rejects from rogues to party was too high even for me. You all rogues want fair pve for everyone, while last lvl cap (71) was designed for your class, even for undergeared ones, because minions and bosses were not strong enough for you, so warrior, that can protect you was not needed. Warrior class struggled from summer 2018 till winter 2019 in PvE (Deep Marsh/Orrick/Hydra,Mogera Lair, Frontier, Greensap Farm, Old Gates - endgame content) and nobody cried, 0 rogues cared. Introduction of skull weapons finally made warriors viable for PvE and now you are talking about "fair PvE", for real ?... All i can see/ read here is whine of some greedy users, who are unhappy, when they donīt shine (while it is not even truth, because rogues are still best class for 99% PvE content).
Warriors do solo wave 25+ easy? Do you even read, what you write? I donīt see any other warrior go above wave 25 in solo gates. 500mil? So this is quality measurement for you? Guess what, i spent much more gold on my gear even before skull weapons were introduced and my class was total trash everywhere in PvE. Am i complaining about your class asking to nerf your class for PvE ond daily basis, because i cant be on Orrick/Hydra LB? Are warriors complaining how ridiculously strong aimed shot with bd is in PvE on bosses? I repeat myself from the case above, when you think it is all about multi proc and "easy do wave 25", feel free to go and try it. Share your result "so called best rogue".
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I donīt understand, why warrior class lie in guts of rogues. Arenīt you happy for other classes, when they really can do something on PvE map? Or you are okey with idea, that single warrior with top gear/ top awaken should fight single minion for 10 seconds and leave map in neverending boss fight. Will this make you happy again? Allright, i donīt understand this cry and i donīt want continue in this charade. Warriors will be piece of trash in PvE = read slow snails, when you achieve, what you all are complaining about, while rogues will remain unharmed, because with single arcane bow can do everything, while warrior without 2 or more procs is snail in endgame PvE.
As i said in sentences above, i am done with this battle, this one is OP, this one need nerf. When STS development team decide something need change, they will do it, donīt worry.
Why canīt all AL players just enjoy, what STS do for us everyday. I know, we are PEOPLE...
Have a nice day and smile!
so they will keep try
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