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    Quote Originally Posted by THE GOLDEN KING View Post
    26* that was twink PvP level 27 back in 2015 where said nekro was only 8-12 million and not 70 million please no false information

    36* maul was the number 1 weapon for warrior in that era, bonesaw was a secondary weapon for maul’s proc was still superior in every way.

    41* I don’t see a glow in either of their hands, so I’m assuming it’s some sort of legendary ring *non archon*.

    Here are my sources enjoy the warrior slaughter.

    https://youtu.be/aGhPaqQ3RCE

    https://youtu.be/TggjkFi-Ooc


    https://youtu.be/NsuHOQ8S1tY


    https://youtu.be/EwJe2ur4Kas


    https://youtu.be/l2Qn2ksYgLs


    https://youtu.be/jHQ9k9wl5mw


    https://youtu.be/LC3H3X3cC4A


    https://youtu.be/YdeaU0ETAwo


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    *26, I'm only saying nekro was the OPies pet on that time (assuming, tindrin expansion,2015 best pet release: Singe later on Nekro) not 8-12m its way more. And it's 70m on first week release.

    *36, its a lie bonesaw out stat and out-proc the maul.

    And let's look back if arcane is way superior still against the new release (such as the sawblade) why the rogues in 31s don't use BB hooks? Instead they using mountain teeth?

    *41, Still the warrior is wearing 36s mythic, the rog is probably wearing IMBUED SET / MAGMA SET, but no solid evidence due to vanity. But as I've also pointed the pet used.

    P.S. also I know and you know me we're from ET, don't downplay warriors, I know great warriors in the past, stop acting like warriors are bullied in this game lmao.

    I'll check your vids.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Overgrown View Post
    *26, I'm only saying nekro was the OPies pet on that time (assuming, tindrin expansion,2015 best pet release: Singe later on Nekro) not 8-12m its way more. And it's 70m on first week release.

    *36, its a lie bonesaw out stat and out-proc the maul.

    And let's look back if arcane is way superior still against the new release (such as the sawblade) why the rogues in 31s don't use BB hooks? Instead they using mountain teeth?

    *41, Still the warrior is wearing 36s mythic, the rog is probably wearing IMBUED SET / MAGMA SET, but no solid evidence due to vanity. But as I've also pointed the pet used.

    P.S. also I know and you know me we're from ET, don't downplay warriors, I know great warriors in the past, stop acting like warriors are bullied in this game lmao.

    I'll check your vids.

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    26* yes in first release it was 70m+ in 2014 but during the time of 2015 it dropped down to 8-12 million EDIT: same time where the video takes place

    36* nope, there’s a reason why even at level 41 cap. Maul was still superior to that of 36 bonesaw and glaive. It wasn’t till level 41 bonesaw and Elon bulwark came out when maul became a secondary weapon.

    41* it was the beginning of level 41 cap, where imbued hasn’t existed yet, but your magma armors is still very plausible, warriors were using loki and jack I believe, I see your point to where rogue is using glacian.

    Level 10 was a different story, atleast then warriors had some balance against rogues XC

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    Quote Originally Posted by THE GOLDEN KING View Post
    26* yes in first release it was 70m+ in 2014 but during the time of 2015 it dropped down to 8-12 million EDIT: same time where the video takes place

    36* nope, there’s a reason why even at level 41 cap. Maul was still superior to that of 36 bonesaw and glaive. It wasn’t till level 41 bonesaw and Elon bulwark came out when maul became a secondary weapon.

    41* it was the beginning of level 41 cap, where imbued hasn’t existed yet, but your magma armors is still very plausible, warriors were using loki and jack I believe, I see your point to where rogue is using glacian.


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    1st Video
    https://youtu.be/aGhPaqQ3RCE
    The Rog is clearly OP, Elondria Bow with paras against Planar Club tank, definitely a food in pvp.
    Name:  Elon bow maridos.png
Views: 277
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    2nd Video
    https://youtu.be/TggjkFi-Ooc
    The Rog is visibly wearing Blood Ring and Fang Amulet, assumed they both on 36 mythic sets but the tank's Architect Pylon is not determined maybe a Trash type (not Will type)
    Name:  fang and blood 2.png
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    Name:  fang and blood.png
Views: 300
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    3rd Video
    https://youtu.be/NsuHOQ8S1tY
    In this era, Top of the line rog wep is either Nighmarish/Twinrazor Blades, and its clear The Rog is wielding Twinrazor, against Maul which is "INFERIOR" to SAWBLADE and FORTIFIED GLAIVE
    Name:  twinrazor vs maul.png
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    4th Video
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EwJe...ature=youtu.be
    The Mountain Teeth vs Maul tank is a Close fight this is Match Class, but I'd say its a close fight the rog managed to stun the Tank's horn that's why the tank goes down, "But" if that Horn is successful the rog is already empty in mana which will be a problem. In other terms, rog didn't overpowered the tank here, its just the rog played it well. so no Tank-inferior here.
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    5th
    https://youtu.be/l2Qn2ksYgLs
    Watch the full video for the other Thread readers, This comparison in 26s PVP is clearly a joke, The tank can kill the rog as can be seen before the tank gave away the fight. It's easy to drain Tank's mana if In PT you can easily monitor the VB buff, and just not attack to not give the tank mana. CLEARY NO INFERIOR TANK IN THE VIDEO.
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    6th
    https://youtu.be/jHQ9k9wl5mw
    The rog is clearly superior here, blood ruby ring is visible and Glacian is present here.
    Name:  Blood ruby glacian.png
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    The warrior is wearing trash magma(red color) and Jack.
    Name:  Trash Magma.png
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    7th
    https://youtu.be/LC3H3X3cC4A
    In the First encounter, a tank helped the Rog
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Views: 254
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    Based on the guild Title, the tank is a food, you know why?
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    Karma(top 1 guild back then) tank didn't even tried to attack, while the rog is farming other Karma Rogue
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Views: 251
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    8th
    https://youtu.be/YdeaU0ETAwo
    The tank managed to kill the GLINT BOW rogue.
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    Blue Sawblade(Lvl 41 version of the orange one) vs GLINT BOW of 46 rog
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    Name:  Glint bow.png
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    I've checked all the videos, most of them are egocentric rogs, cleary farming nab tanks and obviously no contest. Tanks can fight rogues back then toe to toe if both have fair gears and pet.

    so your argument that the rogues are always dominating the PVP ever since is clearly a lie. They don't dominate its their job at the first place to deal damage.

    I hate tanks like you, who do self-pity and even bring false evidences to gain the sympathy of new comers in the game.

    Please watch the vids sent and judge it yourself, In HD quality as possible and try in slow-mo.
    Last edited by Overgrown; 05-02-2020 at 02:56 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Overgrown View Post
    1st Video
    https://youtu.be/aGhPaqQ3RCE
    The Rog is clearly OP, Elondria Bow with paras against Planar Club tank, definitely a food in pvp.
    Name:  Elon bow maridos.png
Views: 277
Size:  153.6 KB

    2nd Video
    https://youtu.be/TggjkFi-Ooc
    The Rog is visibly wearing Blood Ring and Fang Amulet, assumed they both on 36 mythic sets but the tank's Architect Pylon is not determined maybe a Trash type (not Will type)
    Name:  fang and blood 2.png
Views: 312
Size:  694.0 KB
    Name:  fang and blood.png
Views: 300
Size:  318.4 KB

    3rd Video
    https://youtu.be/NsuHOQ8S1tY
    In this era, Top of the line rog wep is either Nighmarish/Twinrazor Blades, and its clear The Rog is wielding Twinrazor, against Maul which is "INFERIOR" to SAWBLADE and FORTIFIED GLAIVE
    Name:  twinrazor vs maul.png
Views: 294
Size:  260.6 KB

    4th Video
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EwJe...ature=youtu.be
    The Mountain Teeth vs Maul tank is a Close fight this is Match Class, but I'd say its a close fight the rog managed to stun the Tank's horn that's why the tank goes down, "But" if that Horn is successful the rog is already empty in mana which will be a problem. In other terms, rog didn't overpowered the tank here, its just the rog played it well. so no Tank-inferior here.
    Name:  Stunned.png
Views: 304
Size:  588.6 KB

    5th
    https://youtu.be/l2Qn2ksYgLs
    Watch the full video for the other Thread readers, This comparison in 26s PVP is clearly a joke, The tank can kill the rog as can be seen before the tank gave away the fight. It's easy to drain Tank's mana if In PT you can easily monitor the VB buff, and just not attack to not give the tank mana. CLEARY NO INFERIOR TANK IN THE VIDEO.
    Name:  lmao a joke - Copy.png
Views: 302
Size:  909.9 KB

    6th
    https://youtu.be/jHQ9k9wl5mw
    The rog is clearly superior here, blood ruby ring is visible and Glacian is present here.
    Name:  Blood ruby glacian.png
Views: 272
Size:  168.1 KB
    The warrior is wearing trash magma(red color) and Jack.
    Name:  Trash Magma.png
Views: 261
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    7th
    https://youtu.be/LC3H3X3cC4A
    In the First encounter, a tank helped the Rog
    Name:  helped.png
Views: 254
Size:  213.7 KB
    Based on the guild Title, the tank is a food, you know why?
    Name:  food tank.png
Views: 273
Size:  301.9 KB
    Karma(top 1 guild back then) tank didn't even tried to attack, while the rog is farming other Karma Rogue
    Name:  karma.png
Views: 251
Size:  338.1 KB

    8th
    https://youtu.be/YdeaU0ETAwo
    The tank managed to kill the GLINT BOW rogue.
    Name:  lmaaao.png
Views: 266
Size:  836.0 KB
    Blue Sawblade(Lvl 41 version of the orange one) vs GLINT BOW of 46 rog
    Name:  sawblade.png
Views: 254
Size:  343.1 KB
    Name:  Glint bow.png
Views: 245
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    I've checked all the videos, most of them are egocentric rogs, cleary farming nab tanks and obviously no contest. Tanks can fight rogues back then toe to toe if both have fair gears and pet.

    so your argument that the rogues are always dominating the PVP ever since is clearly a lie. They don't dominate its their job at the first place to deal damage.

    I hate tanks like you, who do self-pity and even bring false evidences to gain the sympathy of new comers in the game.

    Please watch the vids sent and judge it yourself, In HD quality as possible and try in slow-mo.
    Quote Originally Posted by Overgrown View Post
    1st Video
    https://youtu.be/aGhPaqQ3RCE
    The Rog is clearly OP, Elondria Bow with paras against Planar Club tank, definitely a food in pvp.
    Name:  Elon bow maridos.png
Views: 277
Size:  153.6 KB

    2nd Video
    https://youtu.be/TggjkFi-Ooc
    The Rog is visibly wearing Blood Ring and Fang Amulet, assumed they both on 36 mythic sets but the tank's Architect Pylon is not determined maybe a Trash type (not Will type)
    Name:  fang and blood 2.png
Views: 312
Size:  694.0 KB
    Name:  fang and blood.png
Views: 300
Size:  318.4 KB

    3rd Video
    https://youtu.be/NsuHOQ8S1tY
    In this era, Top of the line rog wep is either Nighmarish/Twinrazor Blades, and its clear The Rog is wielding Twinrazor, against Maul which is "INFERIOR" to SAWBLADE and FORTIFIED GLAIVE
    Name:  twinrazor vs maul.png
Views: 294
Size:  260.6 KB

    4th Video
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EwJe...ature=youtu.be
    The Mountain Teeth vs Maul tank is a Close fight this is Match Class, but I'd say its a close fight the rog managed to stun the Tank's horn that's why the tank goes down, "But" if that Horn is successful the rog is already empty in mana which will be a problem. In other terms, rog didn't overpowered the tank here, its just the rog played it well. so no Tank-inferior here.
    Name:  Stunned.png
Views: 304
Size:  588.6 KB

    5th
    https://youtu.be/l2Qn2ksYgLs
    Watch the full video for the other Thread readers, This comparison in 26s PVP is clearly a joke, The tank can kill the rog as can be seen before the tank gave away the fight. It's easy to drain Tank's mana if In PT you can easily monitor the VB buff, and just not attack to not give the tank mana. CLEARY NO INFERIOR TANK IN THE VIDEO.
    Name:  lmao a joke - Copy.png
Views: 302
Size:  909.9 KB

    6th
    https://youtu.be/jHQ9k9wl5mw
    The rog is clearly superior here, blood ruby ring is visible and Glacian is present here.
    Name:  Blood ruby glacian.png
Views: 272
Size:  168.1 KB
    The warrior is wearing trash magma(red color) and Jack.
    Name:  Trash Magma.png
Views: 261
Size:  193.4 KB

    7th
    https://youtu.be/LC3H3X3cC4A
    In the First encounter, a tank helped the Rog
    Name:  helped.png
Views: 254
Size:  213.7 KB
    Based on the guild Title, the tank is a food, you know why?
    Name:  food tank.png
Views: 273
Size:  301.9 KB
    Karma(top 1 guild back then) tank didn't even tried to attack, while the rog is farming other Karma Rogue
    Name:  karma.png
Views: 251
Size:  338.1 KB

    8th
    https://youtu.be/YdeaU0ETAwo
    The tank managed to kill the GLINT BOW rogue.
    Name:  lmaaao.png
Views: 266
Size:  836.0 KB
    Blue Sawblade(Lvl 41 version of the orange one) vs GLINT BOW of 46 rog
    Name:  sawblade.png
Views: 254
Size:  343.1 KB
    Name:  Glint bow.png
Views: 245
Size:  206.5 KB

    I've checked all the videos, most of them are egocentric rogs, cleary farming nab tanks and obviously no contest. Tanks can fight rogues back then toe to toe if both have fair gears and pet.

    so your argument that the rogues are always dominating the PVP ever since is clearly a lie. They don't dominate its their job at the first place to deal damage.

    I hate tanks like you, who do self-pity and even bring false evidences to gain the sympathy of new comers in the game.

    Please watch the vids sent and judge it yourself, In HD quality as possible and try in slow-mo.
    1st video, sure I’ll agree with you there.

    2nd video, you’re just assuming the tank is using “trash types” and not ‘Will’ type. I may not know either, but we can both see, the warrior still lose .

    3rd video, maul is not inferior to Bonesaw, how do I know this? Because I have both lol. The tank is quite maxed out and the rogue is too and yet the rogue effortlessly wins.

    4th video, Maul(Arcane)/ glacian(Arcane) user tank, dies to (legendary) Jack pet, (legendary) rogue weapon . If the rogue used black beard hooks and an arcane pet, then I’d agree with you, but he doesn’t and kills the warrior easily. Stun or not that warrior wasn’t going to win a match anytime soon.

    5th video, They both agreed for a PT VS, all the rogue had was legendary bow and nekro, while the warrior had,venge,jug, heal and singe to back him up. And yet still lost.

    6th video, the rogue used conquistadors bow to kill a warrior using magma sword, glacian was just a small very boost in stats. For all we know the rogue is using level 36 tarlok armor.

    7th video, that still doesn’t explain how the rogue single handily 1v3 XC 1 mage, 1 tank and 1 rogue vs 1 single rogue with glacian. But rogues are weak right?

    8th video, that kill was off camera but let’s say he did actually legit kill the rogue, okay how did the rogue kill him not once, not twice, but 5 times after that?

    Yes rogues dominating PvP for the past 5-6 years it a complete lie , totally made up, I don’t self pity so I can gain others sympathy. I’m just laying out the hard truth of the past, so when rogues cry about how “unbalanced” the game because suddenly the warrior is “better” or mage does “more” damage than rogues. I always like to bring up AL’s past history so we can all see the complete picture .


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    Quote Originally Posted by THE GOLDEN KING View Post
    1st video, sure I’ll agree with you there.

    2nd video, you’re just assuming the tank is using “trash types” and not ‘Will’ type. I may not know either, but we can both see, the warrior still lose .

    3rd video, maul is not inferior to Bonesaw, how do I know this? Because I have both lol. The tank is quite maxed out and the rogue is too and yet the rogue effortlessly wins.

    4th video, Maul(Arcane)/ glacian(Arcane) user tank, dies to (legendary) Jack pet, (legendary) rogue weapon . If the rogue used black beard hooks and an arcane pet, then I’d agree with you, but he doesn’t and kills the warrior easily. Stun or not that warrior wasn’t going to win a match anytime soon.

    5th video, They both agreed for a PT VS, all the rogue had was legendary bow and nekro, while the warrior had,venge,jug, heal and singe to back him up. And yet still lost.

    6th video, the rogue used conquistadors bow to kill a warrior using magma sword, glacian was just a small very boost in stats. For all we know the rogue is using level 36 tarlok armor.

    7th video, that still doesn’t explain how the rogue single handily 1v3 XC 1 mage, 1 tank and 1 rogue vs 1 single rogue with glacian. But rogues are weak right?

    8th video, that kill was off camera but let’s say he did actually legit kill the rogue, okay how did the rogue kill him not once, not twice, but 5 times after that?

    Yes rogues dominating PvP for the past 5-6 years it a complete lie , totally made up, I don’t self pity so I can gain others sympathy. I’m just laying out the hard truth of the past, so when rogues cry about how “unbalanced” the game because suddenly the warrior is “better” or mage does “more” damage than rogues. I always like to bring up AL’s past history so we can all see the complete picture .


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    2nd video. Then don't assume back the tanks is "Max geared and matched with the Rog". so nothing to discuss about this. its invalid arguement.
    3rd video. I think not, then the rogue should just use the cheaper days, Mountain teeth against that maul tank. the tank is weak invalid comparison.
    4th video. Have you hit your head with something? BB hooks is more OP than the Mountain teeth brutality? really? Its a close fight no Dominated tank here.
    5th video. "They both agreed for a PT VS" sure sure but it is clearly if there is no PT, the warrior will easily kill the Rog. Legendary bow you say? what is Storm Sword to you? Nekro>Singe basically lmao.
    6th video. Don't downplay the Consqu Bow it has good procs, with that weak magma sword. also downplaying Glacian in that time is not a good argument there. TARLOK SET? they're both in vanities so don't lie about it.
    7th video. "that still doesn’t explain how the rogue single handily 1v3 " Gear difference obviously? They're don't match at all they're plain food in pvp
    8th video. "5 times after that" did I miss the fact that it was 41s sawblade vs Glint bow?

    Your basis are from Rogues uploading their "Glorious Farming". Its their channel ofcourse why would they post video that they're farmed? try to check in tanks PVP videos lmao.
    Here, The God Army (all Warrior team) Vs Elite Twinks (mix team) --- warrior's perspective
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3x4qWAOVJ1Q&t=218s

    Your hard truth is a lie, and it will never be balanced stop crying to be rogue like lmao, you signed up to be tank so do you class' job.
    Tho Warriors and Mages succeed with all their efforts of crying in forums, now you have Tank-Rogues and Aoe-Rogues congrats then.

    Tank-rogue with unli health and 2131314118273817412 damage proc ------ "BALANCED"
    Aeo-rogue with asernal of damage immunity,stuns and reflects and 21309104019411090193 damage proc ------"BALANCED"

    You're plainly twisted in reasoning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Overgrown View Post
    2nd video. Then don't assume back the tanks is "Max geared and matched with the Rog". so nothing to discuss about this. its invalid arguement.
    3rd video. I think not, then the rogue should just use the cheaper days, Mountain teeth against that maul tank. the tank is weak invalid comparison.
    4th video. Have you hit your head with something? BB hooks is more OP than the Mountain teeth brutality? really? Its a close fight no Dominated tank here.
    5th video. "They both agreed for a PT VS" sure sure but it is clearly if there is no PT, the warrior will easily kill the Rog. Legendary bow you say? what is Storm Sword to you? Nekro>Singe basically lmao.
    6th video. Don't downplay the Consqu Bow it has good procs, with that weak magma sword. also downplaying Glacian in that time is not a good argument there. TARLOK SET? they're both in vanities so don't lie about it.
    7th video. "that still doesn’t explain how the rogue single handily 1v3 " Gear difference obviously? They're don't match at all they're plain food in pvp
    8th video. "5 times after that" did I miss the fact that it was 41s sawblade vs Glint bow?

    Your basis are from Rogues uploading their "Glorious Farming". Its their channel ofcourse why would they post video that they're farmed? try to check in tanks PVP videos lmao.
    Here, The God Army (all Warrior team) Vs Elite Twinks (mix team) --- warrior's perspective
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3x4qWAOVJ1Q&t=218s

    Your hard truth is a lie, and it will never be balanced stop crying to be rogue like lmao, you signed up to be tank so do you class' job.
    Tho Warriors and Mages succeed with all their efforts of crying in forums, now you have Tank-Rogues and Aoe-Rogues congrats then.

    Tank-rogue with unli health and 2131314118273817412 damage proc ------ "BALANCED"
    Aeo-rogue with asernal of damage immunity,stuns and reflects and 21309104019411090193 damage proc ------"BALANCED"

    You're plainly twisted in reasoning.
    3rd video, tank is weak? He had maul of ollerus, and mythic set level 36 with mythic slag pet, against a maxed mythic rogue using jack and lost effortlessly and somehow it’s invalid???

    4th video, that just proved my point further, rogue is using legendary items to kill a maxed out warrior with mythic AND Arcane gear. So if the rogue had hooks it wouldn’t even be a fight it would be a suicide lol.

    5th video, precisely my point, the rogue didn’t even try to mana drain the warrior can still won. So if there was ‘no pt’ the warrior would lose easily.

    6th video, weak magma sword? It rivals that of level 36 bonesaw and glaive lol. You’re assuming what gear they have, so why can’t I assume too? They’re both in vanties but clearly the warrior is showing level 36 mythic set. Which was still relevant before imbued cane out.

    7th video, they’re food? You didn’t see the rogue on the enemy team using Hammerjaw?

    8th video, lol he used both Level 46 glintstone aegis and bonesaw. I thought you said you seen the video?

    Show me videos of warriors winning against rogues because there’s plenty of videos rogues farming tanks.

    That’s twink, warriors were actually good at those levels especially the year 2014-2015.

    It’s lie? So everything I showed is fake and the players in the videos are payed actors too huh? Lol

    Yeah finally “balance” after 5-6 years of rogue domination


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    Quote Originally Posted by THE GOLDEN KING View Post
    3rd video, tank is weak? He had maul of ollerus, and mythic set level 36 with mythic slag pet, against a maxed mythic rogue using jack and lost effortlessly and somehow it’s invalid???

    4th video, that just proved my point further, rogue is using legendary items to kill a maxed out warrior with mythic AND Arcane gear. So if the rogue had hooks it wouldn’t even be a fight it would be a suicide lol.

    5th video, precisely my point, the rogue didn’t even try to mana drain the warrior can still won. So if there was ‘no pt’ the warrior would lose easily.

    6th video, weak magma sword? It rivals that of level 36 bonesaw and glaive lol. You’re assuming what gear they have, so why can’t I assume too? They’re both in vanties but clearly the warrior is showing level 36 mythic set. Which was still relevant before imbued cane out.

    7th video, they’re food? You didn’t see the rogue on the enemy team using Hammerjaw?

    8th video, lol he used both Level 46 glintstone aegis and bonesaw. I thought you said you seen the video?

    Show me videos of warriors winning against rogues because there’s plenty of videos rogues farming tanks.

    That’s twink, warriors were actually good at those levels especially the year 2014-2015.

    It’s lie? So everything I showed is fake and the players in the videos are payed actors too huh? Lol

    Yeah finally “balance” after 5-6 years of rogue domination


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    You lost some screws man. I thought you're experienced player and sees things differently, but you look like a nab self pittying of becoming a warrior. You're arguments don't make sense at all.



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