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    Default Doubt on Boss dmg

    Damage elixr stack with Boss damage?

    Lets say i have below stats.

    1) 9.5k dps with dmg elix and 100bd, it will be like 19k dps (or) lower?
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    They stack, yes.
    But the exact calculation is beyond my knowledge

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    So with 0%bd u do 100% dmg, so in your case, 100bd would mean you do 200%dmg against bosses, therefore your dps would be 19k

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xmenarmy View Post
    Damage elixr stack with Boss damage?

    Lets say i have below stats.

    1) 9.5k dps with dmg elix and 100bd, it will be like 19k dps (or) lower?
    Short Answer to your questions is: No, it is lower. I’ve done quite a few tests on this and this is the equation I came up with. This equation could be wrong but it matches with my findings the most.


    { BaseDmg x (ChestDmgElixir or % pet dmg buff + BD and ED) x (AdDmg + % Stacking pet Dmg)

    OR

    {BaseDmg x (ChestDmgElixir or %pet dmg buff) x (AdDmg+%Stacking Pet Dmg + BD and ED)}

    It was hard for me to determine which one is more accurate. But either of those equations is more accurate than multiplying your stat dmg by the Bd/Ed %
    If you have questions about how I did my test. I can explain them, and hopefully correct any errors found.

    I have not done this test with weapon procs tho as I find it hard to do. I was also not sure whether the 76 arc weapon proc increase someone’s base dmg or is a multiplier


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    I feel like im doing less damges even tho i have 100% bd.
    Its like i can do same damage as my main gear n bd gear😢

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    Would be nice to get a reply from a dev and inform us if there is a cap on these things, because people spend quite a lot of gold on Awakenings and it would be nice if they don't get wasted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deathlyreaper View Post
    Short Answer to your questions is: No, it is lower. I’ve done quite a few tests on this and this is the equation I came up with. This equation could be wrong but it matches with my findings the most.


    { BaseDmg x (ChestDmgElixir or % pet dmg buff + BD and ED) x (AdDmg + % Stacking pet Dmg)

    OR

    {BaseDmg x (ChestDmgElixir or %pet dmg buff) x (AdDmg+%Stacking Pet Dmg + BD and ED)}

    It was hard for me to determine which one is more accurate. But either of those equations is more accurate than multiplying your stat dmg by the Bd/Ed %
    If you have questions about how I did my test. I can explain them, and hopefully correct any errors found.

    I have not done this test with weapon procs tho as I find it hard to do. I was also not sure whether the 76 arc weapon proc increase someone’s base dmg or is a multiplier


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    Is BaseDmg the dmg you have before considering dex/int/str/dmg awakes?
    So let’s say my stat for Dmg shows 5000.
    But the 5000 dmg would be for example 4000 if we don’t consider any awakes; just clean gears.

    Is now your BaseDmg 4000 or 5000?

    And have you come up with a new and more accurate equation?
    Last edited by IExposedYou; 08-24-2020 at 08:22 AM.

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    Here's how it works:
    1.When you use the 30% damage elixir kit
    -If your pet's happiness bonus is less than 30%, the damage elixir will override your pet's damage and not stack with it.
    -If the pet's happiness bonus is greater than or equal to 30%, then the pet's happiness bonus is prioritized and the elixir kit does nothing
    -After this, all the stacking damage buffs (stacking damage, boss damage, elite damage) are added up and applied

    If you are using a 30% damage elixir kit, then your dps will be 19k

    2.When you use the 25% damage elixir from ads
    -This is a stacking damage buff, which will add up with your boss damage, being a 125% damage increase to your normal damage.
    -Since your dps is 9.5k, your dps without lix will be 7.6k. After applying the 125% damage increase to the dps without lix, your dps will be 17.1k

    If you are using 25% damage elixir, your dps will be lower.
    Last edited by Kaziscate; 08-24-2020 at 08:17 PM. Reason: Made it easier to read on mobile

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaziscate View Post
    Here's how it works:
    1.When you use the 30% damage elixir kit
    -If your pet's happiness bonus is less than 30%, the damage elixir will override your pet's damage and not stack with it.
    -If the pet's happiness bonus is greater than or equal to 30%, then the pet's happiness bonus is prioritized and the elixir kit does nothing
    -After this, all the stacking damage buffs (stacking damage, boss damage, elite damage) are added up and applied

    If you are using a 30% damage elixir kit, then your dps will be 19k

    2.When you use the 25% damage elixir from ads
    -This is a stacking damage buff, which will add up with your boss damage, being a 125% damage increase to your normal damage.
    -Since your dps is 9.5k, your dps without lix will be 7.6k. After applying the 125% damage increase to the dps without lix, your dps will be 17.1k

    If you are using 25% damage elixir, your dps will be lower.
    Thanks for responding.
    So having bd and/or ed is better than having dex/int/str when fighting bosses.
    Is there a way you can test both gears (stats vs bd/ed) in a map? I try fighting hydra but I barely see a difference in damage output :/

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    Quote Originally Posted by IExposedYou View Post
    Thanks for responding.
    So having bd and/or ed is better than having dex/int/str when fighting bosses.
    Is there a way you can test both gears (stats vs bd/ed) in a map? I try fighting hydra but I barely see a difference in damage output :/
    Heroic Churro and Armored Zhulong have near identical happiness bonuses. Heroic Churro gives 5 more str, dex, int than Armored Zhulong, but Armored Zhulong has 20% boss and elite damage. Here's the high and low values I got from testing on orrick:

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    Last edited by Kaziscate; 09-08-2020 at 07:37 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaziscate View Post
    Heroic Churro and Armored Zhulong have near identical happiness bonuses. Heroic Churro gives 5 more str, dex, int than Armored Zhulong, but Armored Zhulong has 20% boss and elite damage. Here's the high and low values I got from testing on orrick:

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    Ty for the pictures!

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