Official Feedback - Honor PVP (Phase 1)

[Jeffgeomon]

After 3/4 years of retirement from pvp, honor pvp looks very promising.

Ever since shield pets (nekro, glow) were introduced, followed by speed sets and awakenings, pvp became more gear centric rather than player centric, making it a lot less enjoyable. Old school pvp was the best simply because how you played mattered a lot more than what gear and pets you have. Great micro and macro plays were super rewarding, and mistakes were a lot more punishing as players did not have the shields, speed and armor awakenings to save them. Without speed sets, the slower game pace enables players to focus more on their decision-making, and also gives players with worse ping less of a disadvantage.

Thank you.

[Balenciaqa]

Waited so long for pvp changes and this new pvp mode is so awsome! I started playing AL with my friends only in pvp but then had to take a break because it has got unbalanced. This mode is balanced asf and needs only pur skill to win.

Check out my new YT video and you will see what i mean.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cMAGC2OmlxU

[Willl]

I ve asked many warriors, and they never got oneshot, altough from that video at 7.20 looks like something isn't working, maybe Futu can check if it's a bug.
Anyway to really notice if it's a bug it should be tested in a vs, not in a clash.


Let's not start ask buff that buff this, this is how we ended to pvp 76 normal pvp (with deadly pets, insane stats and so on..)

If now it gonna start like this:
1 ask "let's add at least nekro"
then another increase my armor
then another i want more mana lets add mishi, NO thanks!


Honor It s fine as it is, don't ask buffs to make your class better, or I ll start be selfish too and ask to buff mages cause they should be the highest dmg class.

If any warrior wanna have 8 kills per match,
If any warrior wanna be immortal,
If any rog want to kill all by their selves without need of mage to fill his mana
If any rog wants to spawn other rog and mages with their easy speed set

STAY away from this PvP it's not for you, and don't come here to ask for buff to make your class stronger, you not gonna ruin this pvp too!

Matches are perfect, are funny friendly and balanced, skills is what matters!

P.s. for any future weak/unexperienced player who gonna ask for buff your class, remember:
there are skilled warriors who already are immortal cause they know perfect healing/jugg timing (they dont go alone for getting cheap kills cause greedy) if you sync that timing with healing/mage shield covers, your warrior gonna be immortal, I ve seen it yesterday and today.
there are skilled rogues who can get 8-10 kills per match cause they focus the right opponent to kill, they don't spam skills to any opponent (they use well their mana).

Just learn how to play before ask buff buff.

I don't want make fights (drama) but I want more skilled players that altough they are enjoying their matches right now, to come here on forum and talk, cause sadly a part of people who come here to give their opinion, it's to buff their class to win more in the future, they don't want balance, but just make adjustement to fit their game style which doesn't belong to Honor PvP, and it isn't healthy.

@Goldy king if you want I wanna test with you the rog oneshot when you are free, let's see whatsup with it =)

[THE GOLDEN KING]

I ve asked many warriors, and they never got oneshot, altough from that video at 7.20 looks like something isn't working, maybe Futu can check if it's a bug.
Anyway to really notice if it's a bug it should be tested in a vs, not in a clash.


Let's not start ask buff that buff this, this is how we ended to pvp 76 normal pvp (with deadly pets, insane stats and so on..)

If now it gonna start like this:
1 ask "let's add at least nekro"
then another increase my armor
then another i want more mana lets add mishi, NO thanks!


Honor It s fine as it is, don't ask buffs to make your class better, or I ll start be selfish too and ask to buff mages cause they should be the highest dmg class.

If any warrior wanna have 8 kills per match,
If any warrior wanna be immortal,
If any rog want to kill all by their selves without need of mage to fill his mana
If any rog wants to spawn other rog and mages with their easy speed set

STAY away from this PvP it's not for you, and don't come here to ask for buff to make your class stronger, you not gonna ruin this pvp too!

Matches are perfect, are funny friendly and balanced, skills is what matters!

P.s. for any future weak/unexperienced player who gonna ask for buff your class, remember:
there are skilled warriors who already are immortal cause they know perfect healing/jugg timing (they dont go alone for getting cheap kills cause greedy) if you sync that timing with healing/mage shield covers, your warrior gonna be immortal, I ve seen it yesterday and today.
there are skilled rogues who can get 8-10 kills per match cause they focus the right opponent to kill, they don't spam skills to any opponent (they use well their mana).

Just learn how to play before ask buff buff.

I don't want make fights (drama) but I want more skilled players that altough they are enjoying their matches right now, to come here on forum and talk, cause sadly a part of people who come here to give their opinion, it's to buff their class to win more in the future, they don't want balance, but just make adjustement to fit their game style which doesn't belong to Honor PvP, and it isn't healthy.

@Goldy king if you want I wanna test with you the rog oneshot when you are free, let's see whatsup with it =)

What’s you’re IGN? Also, I’ve only tested with one rogue in vs. (The rogue is one of the top skilled rogues)

My ign: Thegoldenking.


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[Willl]

What’s you’re IGN? Also, I’ve only tested with one rogue in vs. (The rogue is one of the top skilled rogues)

My ign: Thegoldenking.


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Heyo im pmed you

[PatD]

I am very happy that people who ask for it finally got what they ask for, the mode seem balanced when playing team strategy but please don't ask to add kills to kdr as almost only rogue can get kills in this mode, maybe instead add 1 kill/victory per team win in a honor category?

[Flamesofanger]

Can the honor shield variant please get an upgrade? The 200+ HP & 270- Base damage doesn't help the situation at all, since rogues/mages can do 400 per hit on average to 600 minimum.

I suggest the shield weapon variant gives a 800 or 600+ HP buff and a 195- in base damage reduction instead of 270- and 150+ in base armor statistically.

Thanks

[Skolking]

No kdr leaderboard pls

[Cinco]

So first - thanks for all of the feedback on Honor PvP! This first day of public testing has resulted in an array of important adjustments. I look forward to hearing more from you as the test progresses over the weekend!

We remain keenly focused on Honor gear statistics - so continued feedback in this area is critically important to us.

In response to feedback on the number of / variety of Pets available in Honor PvP I have been reviewing the possibilities to see what can be done in the short-term. As you know, quite a few of the Epic and Legendary Pets are pretty powerful - and, I'm sorry to say, this power could prevent them from ever being allowed in the Arena of Honor. There are other Common and Rare pets that can provide a bit of variation in play-style, but these choices are pretty minimal. So from my vantage right now it looks like the options are to disrupt balance by adding OP Pets (which will essentially become a quick race to determine which one is the most OP one and that becomes the only pet that anyone uses in Honor), or to offer minimal choices that don't feel like they have much of an impact on your play-style. Neither of these option is attractive - so I plan to keep thinking about how to approach it and to stay open to your suggestions on the matter ;-)

Thanks again! See you in the arena!!

[THE GOLDEN KING]

So first - thanks for all of the feedback on Honor PvP! This first day of public testing has resulted in an array of important adjustments. I look forward to hearing more from you as the test progresses over the weekend!

We remain keenly focused on Honor gear statistics - so continued feedback in this area is critically important to us.

In response to feedback on the number of / variety of Pets available in Honor PvP I have been reviewing the possibilities to see what can be done in the short-term. As you know, quite a few of the Epic and Legendary Pets are pretty powerful - and, I'm sorry to say, this power could prevent them from ever being allowed in the Arena of Honor. There are other Common and Rare pets that can provide a bit of variation in play-style, but these choices are pretty minimal. So from my vantage right now it looks like the options are to disrupt balance by adding OP Pets (which will essentially become a quick race to determine which one is the most OP one and that becomes the only pet that anyone uses in Honor), or to offer minimal choices that don't feel like they have much of an impact on your play-style. Neither of these option is attractive - so I plan to keep thinking about how to approach it and to stay open to your suggestions on the matter ;-)

Thanks again! See you in the arena!!

As for the pet situation, I have an idea. Add “New” ‘Honor PvP’ pets. For instance, a pet with Good Stats but bad Arcane Ability. I’ll provide a few examples.

Ex;

1.) Op stats/bad arcane ability.

Stats: 20 str 2% damage
AA: Chance to bleed.

2.) bad stats/ op arcane ability.

Stats: 5 str, .5% damage
AA: freeze for 1-2 seconds


And it could vary, it could be 10 str/int 1% damage, burn for 1-2 seconds, 25 dex, Chance to stun for 1 second, etc. these are just examples.

If this turns out to be a bad idea, you could always change it back to the 3 pets we have right now.


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[Fearrr]

So which Epic/Legendary Pets do you find not to powerful and balanced then? Based on Class Roles? Can you make a Vote Poll Thread with this list where we can discuss these Pets for balance purposes and Vote as a community?

[Gnarsito]

I know this is useless for pvp, but let us change at least vanities in the honor zone xD

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[Abhspirit]

think the event is pretty fair. More skills needed to win now

[Yjay]

rogues too over powered. Warrior and mage need higher stats or high dmg

[Skolking]

Its balanced, rogues are like paper and die essily, tanks last long. Now its not by awakes or gears but by skills, i have seen tanks who dont die and know how to schufle between jugg and horn. Learn how to play all over again and stop looking for cheap kills

[capeo]

I do think it promotes team play and builds class skills. With a team comprised of each class it's ok. Two mages is painful because they can just cycle curse and your dead. In general this shouldn't replace tdm or ctf. I would keep kdr out of it permanently and make people earn their aps the way everyone else did, the hard way. It makes a good training grounds where people can learn and not have it count against them. Can do leaderboard and awards but not aps/kdr.

[Sophiaaaa]

I do think it promotes team play and builds class skills. With a team comprised of each class it's ok. Two mages is painful because they can just cycle curse and your dead. In general this shouldn't replace tdm or ctf. I would keep kdr out of it permanently and make people earn their aps the way everyone else did, the hard way. It makes a good training grounds where people can learn and not have it count against them. Can do leaderboard and awards but not aps/kdr.

It would be nice if this awarded kdr and aps. Nowadays in TDM its a battle of who has the most gold to spend for the best gear. This mode sets the bar equal for everyone. An LB is sorta meh, it failed last time due to people dummy farming, would suck to see that happening again.

[THE GOLDEN KING]

It would be nice if this awarded kdr and aps. Nowadays in TDM its a battle of who has the most gold to spend for the best gear. This mode sets the bar equal for everyone. An LB is sorta meh, it failed last time due to people dummy farming, would suck to see that happening again.

While that may be true, it is unlikely but possible, for someone to dummy farm.

I say unlikely because Honor PvP is only for level 76, it’s really difficult to find an empty room.

Also, it’s possible because players could have multiple devices and use them to go on opposite sides and get free kills like that way too.


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[Sophiaaaa]

While that may be true, it is unlikely but possible, for someone to dummy farm.

I say unlikely because Honor PvP is only for level 76, it’s really difficult to find an empty room.

Also, it’s possible because players could have multiple devices and use them to go on opposite sides and get free kills like that way too.


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Also, there are people in pier selling pvp kills. Have seen em myself. Would be very easy to just go pay them "x" gold for "x" honor pvp kills

[Flamesofanger]

Thank you devs, i can tell you guys worked really hard on this Honor PvP mode. You guys excelled at formulating such a balanced and enjoyable battle ground.

It's perfection. Everything's balanced, victories are now appropriately situated due to actually having to play the game using your brain and not mashing buttons.

Skills & Teamwork should've always been the staple of PvP Since Arcane Legends launch. I highly recommend you guys abolish normal PvP (It's dead weight, get rid of it) and start working on Honor PvP instead.

After it's beta, please enable CTF/TDM kills on it. Thx!

PS: I understand why some people are struggling to give honor PvP a chance and bother with the broken, empty and brain dribbling normal PvP instead. Because Honor PvP actually tests your skills/teamwork/strategies and that is too hard for them. luls