Suggestion: Please adjust potion costs.

**setec** · 04-17-2010, 09:56 AM

More of a beg really

Without mana, I'm just a guy with a stick. I burn through potions like there is no tomorrow.

This leads me to farm on lower levels for easy gold but gets boring.

Anyway you could take a look and see if it might be possible to even cut the cost in half?

Also, make a 10,000 mana potions for $10 and I'll buy it.

Could do the same with health. Just a thought.

**SMELTN** · 04-17-2010, 10:08 AM

I would love to see higher level potions at different prices for sure. Like level 1 potions are 35g and restore x amount of stats, then level 5 potions are 55g and restore x amount, and so forth. Same way other MMO's do it.

That way you pay more but end up using a small amount of potions.

**KronicDecay** · 04-17-2010, 10:13 AM

I am in complete agreement. And as a pure heal enchantress it's even hard to farm the lower levels. I would gladly pay $10 for 10000 potions as well

**Shinrai** · 04-17-2010, 10:56 AM

Originally Posted by setec

More of a beg really

Without mana, I'm just a guy with a stick. I burn through potions like there is no tomorrow.

This leads me to farm on lower levels for easy gold but gets boring.

Anyway you could take a look and see if it might be possible to even cut the cost in half?

Also, make a 10,000 mana potions for $10 and I'll buy it.

Could do the same with health. Just a thought.

Please don't take this the wrong way, I'm not here to tell you how you should play but I don't agree.
I've been trekking thru the game at a decent pace, i Just hit lv19 and I have an abundant of gold and pots. (approaching 120 mana pots and 10k gold)

I dont play enchanters so I dont know what the deal is, but as a hunter, I rarely run out of mana.

What I've notice so that regen stats in your gear makes a huge difference, on top of that, you really should be hitting "Meditation" every chance you get.

Another thing is that if you are trekking thru higher lv content, it is probably a no brainer that u will need to use more skills fighting the a single mob then if you were hitting +1 or even.

Partying makes a huge difference as well. Not to mention, dungeons goes by at lightening pace and it is so much more fun.

I hope that helps.

As it stands, I dont think pots are overly expensive or gold drop being an issue. (esp after u pass the begining lvs)

While this much not be a solution, there is always the "buy with itune" option.

**_ck** · 04-17-2010, 11:37 AM

I've never had a problem with Health or Mana pots while playing my Archer, but I have to admit when I'm playing m Enchantress I'm using up more mana than I usually get in return (as in gold, pots and items I don't want that I can sell). I certainly wouldn't say that it's ruining me, but I think I was playing the bonus level on Dark Forest and I used up like 40-50 pots of Mana, and since the bonus levels are buggy (?) and give no/little gold/loot/etc. in return, it was just a big loss to play it.

**Shebee** · 04-17-2010, 11:47 AM

Also add a 1-2min cooldown to potions, atm damage/performance is dependable on potions, make mana regen faster, or add somekind of skill to recover mana/hp.
(Sorry if there already is this kind of skill, but I'm not that high yet)

**Flamin** · 04-17-2010, 03:06 PM

I agree with setec.

**Splurd** · 04-17-2010, 03:56 PM

I disagree.

The reason why archers use little potions is that they firstly have meditation, and secondly dont spam alot of skills. Most of their damage output comes from normal attack. My archer is currently running around with 190 mana potions, and I do use them occasionally.

However, alot of enchantresses tend to love to shock and awe. They run in to crowds of monsters, and cast multiple aoe spells to kill everything. This is excellent for clearing monsters, but it is very mana intensive. You dont see warriors or archers clearing monsters that fast.

**KronicDecay** · 04-17-2010, 03:58 PM

Even healing, buffing, and aoe weakness spells drain all 300+ mana I have in about two turns.

**Shinrai** · 04-18-2010, 12:29 AM

Originally Posted by Splurd

I disagree.

The reason why archers use little potions is that they firstly have meditation, and secondly dont spam alot of skills. Most of their damage output comes from normal attack. My archer is currently running around with 190 mana potions, and I do use them occasionally.

However, alot of enchantresses tend to love to shock and awe. They run in to crowds of monsters, and cast multiple aoe spells to kill everything. This is excellent for clearing monsters, but it is very mana intensive. You dont see warriors or archers clearing monsters that fast.

True but lowering pot cost to nearly nothing would make enchantresses super op'd. Currently there is no cooldown on pots, one could potentially take advantage of low pot cost and solo AOE tank an entire instance by themselves.
I think at this point, it might be a class mechanics problem rather then a consumable costing too much.

**Deathshock** · 04-18-2010, 01:55 AM

10k pots for $10 is a tenth of a penny per pot. If it were 1k pot per $10 it'd still be two times cheaper than it currently is right now (assuming you bought gold from the itunes store and then bought pots with it)

**setec** · 04-18-2010, 02:09 AM

If I buy 5000 gold for $4.99 US (let's make this $5 even) then that is 10000 gold for $10. With that I can buy 25 potions times 560 gold, which is 100 for 2240 gold, which is around 446 pots for the 10000 gold. So yes, 1000 pots for $10 would be great as well. I just figured for selling something that is just computer bytes, they could make out at $10 for 10,000 potions. Who wouldn't buy that? At this point, I don't see me buying game gold, however, I would drop the cash for the potions. It was just a thought (a wish!)

**Deathshock** · 04-18-2010, 02:11 AM

Originally Posted by setec

If I buy 5000 gold for $4.99 US (let's make this $5 even) then that is 10000 gold for $10. With that I can buy 25 potions times 560 gold, which is 100 for 2240 gold, which is around 446 pots for the 10000 gold. So yes, 1000 pots for $10 would be great as well. I just figured for selling something that is just computer bytes, they could make out at $10 for 10,000 potions. Who wouldn't buy that? At this point, I don't see me buying game gold, however, I would drop the cash for the potions. It was just a thought (a wish!)

Haha I know what you mean, its just that I doubt the devs would do that, they're not that greedy. Games that become horrible imbalanced because the makers are trying to make a quick buck never last for long, and I doubt thats what they want.

**maxvegas** · 04-18-2010, 02:16 AM

as an archer i do use a massive amount of pots so pls make it cheaper

**Deathshock** · 04-18-2010, 02:18 AM

Originally Posted by maxvegas

as an archer i do use a massive amount of pots so pls make it cheaper

Yeah, definitely, pots are quite expensive.

**doot** · 04-18-2010, 03:00 AM

Originally Posted by Shinrai

I dont play enchanters so I dont know what the deal is, but as a hunter, I rarely run out of mana.

Try it first, then return with your opinion.

Originally Posted by Shinrai

True but lowering pot cost to nearly nothing would make enchantresses super op'd. Currently there is no cooldown on pots, one could potentially take advantage of low pot cost and solo AOE tank an entire instance by themselves.
I think at this point, it might be a class mechanics problem rather then a consumable costing too much.

No one stated "nearly nothing". There is no cooldown on pots. There is a cooldown on spells. Enchantresses use spells more than other classes.

It's different when you've actually run a mage to 25+. I hardly use pots as an archer. I plow through them as a mage. Level a mage to 25+, and let us know what you think then.

**Azrael** · 04-18-2010, 03:08 AM

I am very suprised that so many of you want to find a way to be able to spam thousands of potions by paying for them rather than wanting the game mechanics to be changed so that the game doesn't require spaming potions. Quite frankly the potion system is undermining the rpg tank and healer roles while simultaneously making the game somewhat dull at times. Potions should be on a 3 second cooldown, characters should have more health, and skills such as enchantress heal and warrior restore should play a more significant role in the game.

This game needs to make it's money off of content and not thousands of potion purchases if it wants to continue to develop into the great rpg it has the potential to be.

**tubbies** · 04-18-2010, 03:28 AM

Originally Posted by Azrael

I am very suprised that so many of you want to find a way to be able to spam thousands of potions by paying for them rather than wanting the game mechanics to be changed so that the game doesn't require spaming potions. Quite frankly the potion system is undermining the rpg tank and healer roles while simultaneously making the game somewhat dull at times. Potions should be on a 3 second cooldown, characters should have more health, and skills such as enchantress heal and warrior restore should play a more significant role in the game.

This game needs to make it's money off of content and not thousands of potion purchase if it wants to continue to develope into the great rpg it has the potential to be.

Agreed. Why'd anybody need a tank or a healer when they can just spam pots? Everybody can just be dps spec'd and plow through dungeons by themselves.

**Shinrai** · 04-19-2010, 10:20 AM

Originally Posted by doot

Try it first, then return with your opinion.

No one stated "nearly nothing". There is no cooldown on pots. There is a cooldown on spells. Enchantresses use spells more than other classes.

It's different when you've actually run a mage to 25+. I hardly use pots as an archer. I plow through them as a mage. Level a mage to 25+, and let us know what you think then.

Because you don't understand where the problem lies. Read the post above mine.