Mage is so weak in solo (just letting u guys knw)

[arcanefid]

Player that use warrior found a way to combine proc. Player use their brains to make themselves op
Warrior now the most op class.

Blame who? Blame people who run rogue and mage that want war to be a lousy class in game.

We have been combining procs since 46 cap with Glint Aegis + Cackling Bonesaw, then Glint Aegis + Dragon Sword, and so on. That's nothing new. The way you say it makes it sound like only people who play Warrior are using brains and Rogues and Mages can't use brains.

Stacking procs has been fine until they made the Rage ultimate and Skull Axe proc, and it got even worse with Hotbars. Now it's just a total mess. It's not too hard to see that there's barely any skills involved here. Just buy all the weapons, unlock all the hotbars and spam them until everything dies. It's the same 'strategy' for pretty much every map now.

When a new expansion comes out we will just overpower everything that comes our way like we've been doing until now, and probably have another 2 new Arcane Weapon procs to make things even easier.

If that sounds fun to the majority, that's fine, but personally I wouldn't like that to happen.

[tailwarrior]

Um frnd have you ever tried proc different arc weapons?it's quite addictive and fun in my opinion

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[firebelt & crystalkiller]

Um frnd have you ever tried proc different arc weapons?it's quite addictive and fun in my opinion

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Someone who understands why video games were made.

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[XxxolyxxX]

Someone who understands why video games were made.

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Fun for some people
Stacking procs is boring not anything interesting
Only wars different procs stack together best
What bout the other classes


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[firebelt & crystalkiller]

Fun for some people
Stacking procs is boring not anything interesting
Only wars different procs stack together best
What bout the other classes


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So u saying spamming space bar or just hitting boss for long to kill is fun? Have u ever played any competitive games?.


And ebon daggs(71 wep) stacks which is not endgame wep imo.. And also flame staff(mage) it stacks I guess. but not as viable as wars cuz mages can't tank while procking in difficult waves.

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[Skolking]

Imo it's fair for wars to be good at pve now..
From 2012 till eb aegis/doz gear came mages/rogs were waayyyy better at pve.. And war is a Lil bit better meta rn so many are annoyed at that I guess.. I was a mage myself ultil rogue was meta thn I swapped to rog.. And now i changed to war cuz it's Meta.. So if needed take the swap and see.
Also the overall lb doesn't matter as it givs no rewards but just fame.
Just saying

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Wars arent a lil better wars are 3 times better than other classes in pve

[will0]

Just something i been wanting to comment that the dots mage doing are weak for level 76 toons against mobs with tremendous amount of HP and Armors .. ie. Time shift and this requires charging to Dots which is quite difficult when doing event runs.. Ice bolt dots too the chance to AOE freeze are small too and the frozen pool are too small and random even using pet like Breeze have bigger freeze pool...

[Gardenthief]

From all these years my take is that the majority of players who played Rogue class before were just spoiled with their class being too good, and they all thought they were pros. Just buy some good items and spam some skills, and suddenly everyone else is noob. Of course, that was never true.

Now the same is happening with Warriors. If buying all the Arcane weapons, timing a few skills and switching a few weapons is 'pro strategy', then I'm sure there's something wrong there. It's very similar to what Rogues used to say a few years ago.

Truth is, Warriors who own 3+ arcane weapons are way too good compared to other classes in PvE. I went to wave 100 solo with clean gears and barely any effort (didn't even use a Chasmal armor). Being a warrior myself life is pretty good right now, but I definitely think STS has to disable proc stacks or do something about them in the future.

Great post that really gives a lot of perspective on the game rn. The more overpowered a player is, the less they need to employ strategy. 1 - because there is not need to strategize when everything just dies. 2 - because that's how the human brain works; we opt for maximum efficiency, which means getting the job done with minimal effort.

Nowadays, we don't see many rogues that go for high priority targets, like witches in m6 or healing shamans in Dragkin Temple, which may have been the aftermath of "op rogues" era where spamming skills is good enough. I see a similar trend happening where warriors will just prioritize personal damage over keeping mob aggro or keeping their team alive in future content.

We can't really blame the players for going for the most op damage class, because the game rewards good damage dealers more than anything else. With lots of defensive options like pots, ankhs (outside of wave content), pet aa's, elixirs..., you bet warriors will feel like they're useless even when they do a good job tanking. The quote "the best defence is a good offence" will continue to ring true unless the devs find a way to make tanking relevant.

[Soyeonara]

Nowadays, we don't see many rogues that go for high priority targets, like witches in m6 or healing shamans in Dragkin Temple, which may have been the aftermath of "op rogues" era where spamming skills is good enough. I see a similar trend happening where warriors will just prioritize personal damage over keeping mob aggro or keeping their team alive in future content.

So trueeeee! Very very very agreed. Well pointed.

[Gotiac1980]

I'd take a mage over a rogue any day, especially one with a brain lol

Ok


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[Purpure]

I think all classes has its downsides. I just believe Warriors have way too less compared to others.

Some stuff I always ask myself about:

Why Warriors have 2x Lv76 arcane weapons with dmg buff proc?
Why Skratch Gun has armor debuff and Duggar Bow doesn't? Aren't they the same thing except its worse on Rogue?
Why Rogues/Mages don't have a x6 Int/Dex ult?
Someone here have ever used Rogue healing ult on a daily basis? LOL

just my thoughts

[Purpure]

Reply to Arcanefid #61:

I like your point of view, sadly, if they release lv81 arcane weapons and they are worse procs people will get mad, everyone expects an upgrade, so IMO this will just get worse.

[XxxolyxxX]

I think all classes has its downsides. I just believe Warriors have way too less compared to others.

Some stuff I always ask myself about:

Why Warriors have 2x Lv76 arcane weapons with dmg buff proc?
Why Skratch Gun has armor debuff and Duggar Bow doesn't? Aren't they the same thing except its worse on Rogue?
Why Rogues/Mages don't have a x6 Int/Dex ult?
Someone here have ever used Rogue healing ult on a daily basis? LOL

just my thoughts

Wars won't agree with that kinda ult for us
Wars had high armor
High health
Hardly dies normally no need to use ankhs
Now they got the dps as well to back it up
Not to mention aoe damage from using outdated weapons
Do they need rogues or mage's
Besides the fact that mage has the support of energize ( good pet )
Or rogue to kill bosses
But too bad only mobs in this event
And these wars are better at aoe than any mage's which they say are for crowd control and aoe damage
I don't see that

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[Gamegrog]

I think all classes has its downsides. I just believe Warriors have way too less compared to others.

Some stuff I always ask myself about:

Why Warriors have 2x Lv76 arcane weapons with dmg buff proc?
Why Skratch Gun has armor debuff and Duggar Bow doesn't? Aren't they the same thing except its worse on Rogue?
Why Rogues/Mages don't have a x6 Int/Dex ult?
Someone here have ever used Rogue healing ult on a daily basis? LOL

just my thoughts

Coz rogs and mages do way high base dmg than a warr.
Rogs with a legend weapon can deal higher dmg than a warr with a legend weapon.
So in conclusion rogs doesn't need an arcane weap to deal high dmg coz they don't need high proc to deal huge dmg but warrs do need proc stack to deal dmg.
Plus rogs ulti is pretty op too.
I'm a mage and a warr too

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[Purpure]

X6 STR can wipe out 3 Evg bosses at once in less than 10 secs.
Energize in mages can potentially wipe 3 Evg bosses with a single ult depending on players gear
Rogues can kill 1 spider if they proc duggar+sunken and have high bd/high dex, if not it barely hits 15% of a spider hp, 40% if duggar dagger proc.

There is no way a rogue kills 3 evg bosses with a single shot ultimate, does it make sense?

[arcanefid]

Great post that really gives a lot of perspective on the game rn. The more overpowered a player is, the less they need to employ strategy. 1 - because there is not need to strategize when everything just dies. 2 - because that's how the human brain works; we opt for maximum efficiency, which means getting the job done with minimal effort.

Nowadays, we don't see many rogues that go for high priority targets, like witches in m6 or healing shamans in Dragkin Temple, which may have been the aftermath of "op rogues" era where spamming skills is good enough. I see a similar trend happening where warriors will just prioritize personal damage over keeping mob aggro or keeping their team alive in future content.

We can't really blame the players for going for the most op damage class, because the game rewards good damage dealers more than anything else. With lots of defensive options like pots, ankhs (outside of wave content), pet aa's, elixirs..., you bet warriors will feel like they're useless even when they do a good job tanking. The quote "the best defence is a good offence" will continue to ring true unless the devs find a way to make tanking relevant.

Lots of truth in that.

I appreciate STS' efforts to try and keep everyone happy, but going for the short term fixes like giving damage to everyone will only get worse in the long run.

Then again, if it continues like this I don't really see a "long run". XD

[Gotiac1980]

Those guys don't know what strategy is. They just think full dps will get them lb when it won't, mage is more op than what they think it is. If only they would use him correctly .

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[firebelt & crystalkiller]

X6 STR can wipe out 3 Evg bosses at once in less than 10 secs.
Energize in mages can potentially wipe 3 Evg bosses with a single ult depending on players gear
Rogues can kill 1 spider if they proc duggar+sunken and have high bd/high dex, if not it barely hits 15% of a spider hp, 40% if duggar dagger proc.

There is no way a rogue kills 3 evg bosses with a single shot ultimate, does it make sense?

Agreed.. Rogues ults need buff.. Only 1 ult(speed) is viable for lb runners... Rest are not worth saying ultimate.
The heal ult shud be removed and something else ther imo

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[Kystone]

^^ this


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I told u my pull -_-

[Gotiac1980]

I told u my pull -_-

OK KYSTONES


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