Open Letter to STS about Dark Legends

[Silentarrow]

Hello STS and those who are reading this! Long time no see!

So STS, truth is, you guys lost me! You guys completely turned me off as PL and SL became a "P2P dominated game". Now I know tons of your customers don't want this to happen in Dark Legends, your next title. Here are some of my reccomendations on how you guys can make Dark Legends a game that we all can enjoy but still roll in money for you guys.

• First things first, switch back to Pocket Legends gold system, the kill/credit ratio was a little absurd, Pay to play players dominated gear wise because of this. If you guys choose not to do this, please increase the amount of platinum to gold ratio, just make the game fair.

• Secondly, I'd prefer it if you guys let us have the pocket legends skill wheel back instead of Star Legends. It is much easier for casual players to play that way, I found that in SL many players would only use the four skills on their first page because they were too lazy, or didn't know how to flip the pages.

• Thirdly, don't make a high quality platinum set! That was a total turn off! I think the best Platinum set should be slightly worse than the best dropped purple set by at least 5%.

• Regarding luck enhancers... Get those out of the game, NOW! Total turn off, made me quit. I suggest you guys nerf that enhancer to the way it used to be,

• Don't allow set bonuses in PvP. A turn off for new players, new players have a huge disadvantage with that set bonus.

• Put skill trees into the game. Currently in Pocket Legends and Star Legends almost everyone has the same exact build... C'mon STS! I know you guys can do better! Add more skills! Add diversity!

Edit: Also on the topic of adding diversity, I suggest adding more sets like you guys had in AO3, it was good fun seeing all of the sets and farming for them.

• Regarding pay to play instances, I guess this could also be called the reason I quit!

Well! That's all I can say for now, Good Luck STS, hopefully you can gain a customer back with your new product .

For all other STS customers, feel free to make remarks on my suggestions and add your own suggestions.

[OvigorothO]

I must say i do experience a rather premium experience even without ever having purchased platinum (i have almost 700 in free plat).also if you had been paying attention to various announcements about dark legends you would know skill tree's were to be included already.what you said about the premium gear,my response is they dont call it premium for nuthin'

[Ardon]

If just some of these things were put in game I'd spend $100 of plat every month just to support them lol

[Silentarrow]

I must say i do experience a rather premium experience even without ever having purchased platinum (i have almost 700 in free plat).also if you had been paying attention to various announcements about dark legends you would know skill tree's were to be included already.what you said about the premium gear,my response is they dont call it premium for nuthin'

Here's my main complaint,

P2P farming pink: 25-40%

F2P: 0-1%

Not really fair IMO...

Regarding skill trees, I just saw the thread thanks for pointing it out .

[Silentarrow]

If just some of these things were put in game I'd spend $100 of plat every month just to support them lol

For me: Total money spent on PL before it became "P2P" 20-30$, after 0.

[OvigorothO]

I must say i do experience a rather premium experience even without ever having purchased platinum (i have almost 700 in free plat).also if you had been paying attention to various announcements about dark legends you would know skill tree's were to be included already.what you said about the premium gear,my response is they dont call it premium for nuthin'

Here's my main complaint,

P2P farming pink: 25-40%

F2P: 0-1%

Not really fair IMO...

Regarding skill trees, I just saw the thread thanks for pointing it out .

hope you continue to enjoy the games

[Vhigdo]

Money gives you advantages in games and in real life. It's what money is all about.

[Ardon]

For me: Total money spent on PL before it became "P2P" 20-30$, after 0.

Yeah, I'm just saying that if they do show better signs of a better game than I would buy that amount of plat to support them based on those decisions.

As of now I don't buy any plat because of many decisions from STS

[Silentarrow]

Money gives you advantages in games and in real life. It's what money is all about.

Games are a way for me to get out of the stress that is real life for a couple hours.

[Vhigdo]

Can't disagree with you there. But here is my opinion. I would much rather prefer the small advantages that a p2p player gets over me in grinding and pvp then the alternative which is having to buy new content. It's how a lot of f2p MMO's are being built these days where you pick and choose what you want to buy like in a grocery store, instead of having to just pay for the entire game like retail. Kind of like pocket legends where there are those extra zones, but worse because you actually have to pay to get the zones that you level up in (thus you are level capped).

Besides the advantage p2p players get in the game doesn't even compare to other games. Have you played Drakensang as a f2p player. You'll get 1-shotted in PvP from a p2p player.

I don't know if you know this but Dark Legends is planned to have an "energy" resource that limits ones' gameplay to 25 energy (the energy is used to enter a dungeon and replenishes over time or by paying for more). This is expected to limit gameplay if you play enough to use up the energy in one login. If you've played Spiral Knights it sounds like it'll be like that minus the crafting.

So I'm going to go ahead and guess everything your saying isn't going to be fixed in Dark Legends.

[Artentreri]

Woah, you're only going to be able to play for a certain amount of time because of your "energy" now? Come on man, that's just dirty. It won't matter to me, because I never have to time to do pretty much anything anymore besides work and sleep, but still that's pretty ridiculous. Call it what you want, I think that's just going overboard.

[Ardon]

IMO, energy in any form doesn't really fit an MMO. Just another way to get money.

[Vhigdo]

Yea energy and social farming games are great... but when it slipped over into the MMO market it got out of control.

[Skeletonlord]

Skill trees are being added and are in the works. Lowly announced it a while back in the Dark Legends general section of the forums.

These are good, valid points, I do not believe that it becoming a "Pay to Play" game, platinum is optional, buying new gear is all optional. I admit, you did need to buy Sandstone Caves when it came out.

[Growwle]

Yeah, the one time fee, paid areas in PL that have easier monsters and better, more consistent gear drops are far better than an energy system. Although for me, it won't matter since I play less than a half hour a day most of the time. I have actually been having more fun in PL now, since you can actually sell stuff in the AH for a reasonable amount and have enough to stay stocked up on potions which are essential for levelling if you are not willing to constantly spend plat on XP pots. SL is nearly impossible to level solo, since nothing you can loot is worth the time to put in the AH exceptionally for vanities which a casual player has little hope of ever seeing drop. All this aside, I like game for what they are to me, a brief diversion at lunch, or before I go to bed.

[Vhigdo]

Skill trees are being added and are in the works. Lowly announced it a while back in the Dark Legends general section of the forums.

These are good, valid points, I do not believe that it becoming a "Pay to Play" game, platinum is optional, buying new gear is all optional. I admit, you did need to buy Sandstone Caves when it came out.

He doesn't mean pay to play as optional, he means more pay to win where if you pay you will get a significant advantage over people who choose the option of not paying. Thus, in order to compete, you have to pay. Personally I don't think the advantage is that big if you pay but I haven't pvp'd a lot to notice. Like I said above in a game like Drakensang where the pay to win advantage is huge... Going from a normal 8 shot kill to a 1 shot kill.

[Ardon]

He doesn't mean pay to play as optional, he means more pay to win where if you pay you will get a significant advantage over people who choose the option of not paying. Thus, in order to compete, you have to pay. Personally I don't think the advantage is that big if you pay but I haven't pvp'd a lot to notice. Like I said above in a game like Drakensang where the pay to win advantage is huge... Going from a normal 8 shot kill to a 1 shot kill.

In SL there is a difference between the p2p players. Especially at 35+
Th best implants are only plat. And the only pink shields are Plat. And also give a set bonus with a pink gun, which is way easier to get by using the miners luck elixir. Without plat, you have to PvP with lvl 25 implants, a lvl 30 purple shield and no set bonus from a pink shield an pink gun. It's pretty unfair. To be competitive it end gam PvP in SL, right now, you need plat to buy the best gear.

[Vhigdo]

Yea but then if the person is actually that serious at pvp and you are limited to not paying, I think that person could spend their free platinum more wisely and they will still get the best stuff as long as their free plat isn't used on vanities. It's not like it's impossible to match them, it just takes longer if you don't pay. If the platinum cost of the items was out of range of the free platinum then it would be unfair.

[Goldnhawk]

I think that person could spend their free platinum more wisely and they will still get the best stuff as long as their free plat isn't used on vanities. It's not like it's impossible to match them, it just takes longer if you don't pay. If the platinum cost of the items was out of range of the free platinum then it would be unfair.

I totally agree. They still give you the chance to get free platinum, and if you want to buy something you need to wait longer- but that is fair.
Its like in real life.
I was angry bout the prices going up after the last big update (Vanity Faces plus 5 plat,etc) but then they added free plat.

The only thing that i wish, is that non-premium chars can create guilds too like in PL not only the premium ones at SL.

-Hawk-

[Silentarrow]

I thought energy was only required to do missions like Mafia Wars missions, not dungeons. If you guys are right and it costs energy to join each game I'll quit right away... Well maybe not right away, but pretty fast .

Another suggestion to STS, make campaigns a flat pay to play fee again, don't make us pay per entry as you did in the winter festivals and now the elite dungeons.