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    Quote Originally Posted by Sheugokin View Post
    Sure, I may disagree with you on bringing back items, but I can accept our differences. I have problems with your approach. Framing your perspective the way that you do is downright rude and unnecessary. Telling someone to shut down an event just because you and others don't get what you want is inconsiderate towards people who like/wanted this event.
    No one is framing anyone this is all facts. You guys on forums are here telling cinco these events are amazing. Dark hollow event we told cinco what we wanted and he failed to bargain. Once again we lost players but look at the shores event, we gained more active players and it was actually a decent event. Now cinco said this Halloween event was going to be big and it’s 20 minutes of content(unless playing all day to reach leaderboard). Everyone wanted the Halloween event but since it’s aimed for people who buy sets with plat and sell for gold we might as well get the most requested, old vanity. It’s either earn tokens all day everyday to get maybe 1 set or pay platinum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flambladom View Post
    No one is framing anyone this is all facts. You guys on forums are here telling cinco these events are amazing. Dark hollow event we told cinco what we wanted and he failed to bargain. Once again we lost players but look at the shores event, we gained more active players and it was actually a decent event. Now cinco said this Halloween event was going to be big and it’s 20 minutes of content(unless playing all day to reach leaderboard). Everyone wanted the Halloween event but since it’s aimed for people who buy sets with plat and sell for gold we might as well get the most requested, old vanity. It’s either earn tokens all day everyday to get maybe 1 set or pay platinum.
    Again, I'm not arguing that your argument is baseless. I am turned off (and I'm sure Cinco is too) by the way you present your argument. That's all I have to say. Hope you understand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Devaux View Post
    Its called monetization. Its how they keep the lights on. Its how the game remains to be free to play. You dont have to spend money to obtain anything that people ARE spending to get. Just use gold in the Auction House...............
    The game is free to play but not free to get what you want. The average new player won’t even try to get money or will end up scamming to earn money or black market. You can’t get rich without an event running and the only good items that can be worth profit are the items that are worth platinum. I mean it’s like 80% on forums are clueless..... on YouTube even is see all these complaints and reviews and even calling out the company about how they release content. It’s a big shame, I hear everything and come on forums to get some better content since it’s pay to win and people are saying it’s ok. Only on forums......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flambladom View Post
    The game is free to play but not free to get what you want. The average new player won’t even try to get money or will end up scamming to earn money or black market. You can’t get rich without an event running and the only good items that can be worth profit are the items that are worth platinum. I mean it’s like 80% on forums are clueless..... on YouTube even is see all these complaints and reviews and even calling out the company about how they release content. It’s a big shame, I hear everything and come on forums to get some better content since it’s pay to win and people are saying it’s ok. Only on forums......
    A new player isn't going to thrive in this game even if you brought everything back. Fixing PvE is the utmost focus if you truly care about this game continuing to exist in the near future. Yet you can't fix PvE if you don't have a stable PvP community. This game revolves around PvP after all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MageFFA View Post
    A new player isn't going to thrive in this game even if you brought everything back. Fixing PvE is the utmost focus if you truly care about this game continuing to exist in the near future. Yet you can't fix PvE if you don't have a stable PvP community. This game revolves around PvP after all.
    Fr only reason i ever pved was to pvp and the pvp lvls that were fun to play r dead so y waste time in thrax pveers farmed to sell loot to the pvpers theres a simple fix to this and we have already suggested it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flambladom View Post
    The game is free to play but not free to get what you want. The average new player won’t even try to get money or will end up scamming to earn money or black market. You can’t get rich without an event running and the only good items that can be worth profit are the items that are worth platinum. I mean it’s like 80% on forums are clueless..... on YouTube even is see all these complaints and reviews and even calling out the company about how they release content. It’s a big shame, I hear everything and come on forums to get some better content since it’s pay to win and people are saying it’s ok. Only on forums......
    Well this I disagree with and this is why. Best items in the game or what dextra or something pet / sapphire set for farming /ugly seater / new wolf moon light set. And all these items that I can remeber were obtainable even for non plat players.

    The ugly sweater you have to farm you just need to farm non stop like crazy on a Christmas event which I hope will continue ever year. The other items are form event but you could use event points(in game currency)to buy the item. Or you could buy the non tradable version with plats.

    I don’t think the problem players are having is obtaining the items I think the problem is some are upset not having the tradable version they can sell for gold.. no one even have to spend plats($$$) to open crates any more cause now there is crate keys which mean u can now get any item that a plat player can get without spending one buck.( I get it people still wanna say oh but 50 plat keys cause 5m——you can farm like 1-3m or more a hour with good gold farming gear at max level. And then still find another reason to complain like they say “but why should I have to farm plat players don’t. ) regardless how much plat /non plat player give feedback to make it fair some players will never be Satisfied.

    So with that in mind say everyone got the tradable pet for free after a event like they did Barkley’s after dark hollow. I was so up set cause I spent so much time farming recipe and gold buying these pets then they just give us all extra free. The exact pet(not recovers eyes or leafs not different name exactly the same!!!! Not even non tradable.(you should get something cause u like it—???. (No not in that case cause I could have did the event on char I wanna level or max on 3 alts char and got ever single item after event in a day work. People on one account would have had to farm the whole time in hope to be able to craft them.

    Now I do not even chance wasting to much time farming any event if they give the same reward as what we farm for free.

    Dark hollow events was one of the best(as fun to play), up there with gaulet but dark hollow was missing the most important thing and that was a super rare item loot.

    This event is cool just which there was more monsters scattered and more chest to break
    And a hard mode that is for really good and geared player that drop some new unique upgrades gear
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vapourised View Post
    Because STS also care about their reputation. The promise they made years ago was to never bring certain stuff back. Why would we ever want to grind for exlusive rare stuff ever again if we know they will be brought back? Take the halloween banners. Why grind for top 25 or top 10 if you know that STS has a reputation for bringing hard earned vanities back? This means people stop spending due to lack of trust. Also this would destroy STS's monetization.
    He turns all these seasonal events into leaderboard competitions. Literally if you don’t play everyday and most of the day you won’t get any rare item. If sts cares about their reputation they would lower plat prices, actually listen to what we want, add more less boring content that will keep players happy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cinco View Post
    I think I've found a happy medium and will be publishing the change shortly.

    Thanks for all the great feedback! :-)
    I got 34.4K for 1hr in castle and 18.2k 30min in manor ... both for 10plat(krud elixir).

    These 2 dungeons are at opposite ends of the PVE spectrum and couldn’t be a better example of need for separate LBs. I’m hoping that by exploiting the “Warlockless” castle dungeon you mean players were countinuosly creating a new game to spawn one ... otherwise that update made no sense.
    Manor is a far more exploited dungeon than castle just simply because of the 4 other players on a team random or organized doesn’t matter ... the plat player is exploited.
    I love the SIMPLICITY of the plat Castle dungeon and think you have far more options to monetize that play style in PL2. For this mid-event update (hoping there is one) I think the rest the vanities that are for sale in the vendor now should be added to Castle loot table (if not already) in particular to the coffins to put them more in play or at the vary least add event points to the coffins. Also a 30min 5 plat castle dungeon would be an option at the current loot table settings. TY

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    just seems like the majority of us get punished for those few who continuously macro and present false playtime data to the developers, gold tier doesn't feel achievable at its current threshold for the casual player nor is it incentivized to go for LB because there is never complete certainty that you are not just playing against someones macro and to top it off being made to pay for your own rewards never leaves a good taste in anyones mouth lol, I hope STS reconsiders how the event works and what they call a prize or reward item
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    It's actually the same threshold as last year's Halloween event.
    500,000 isn't as high as you think
    950pts in Halloween manor let's say it takes you 1minute per run
    then it will only take 8hrs and 46minutes to reach gold tier. That doesn't sound impossible in a 14 days event.

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    Quote Originally Posted by _Reunited_ View Post
    just seems like the majority of us get punished for those few who continuously macro and present false playtime data to the developers, gold tier doesn't feel achievable at its current threshold for the casual player nor is it incentivized to go for LB because there is never complete certainty that you are not just playing against someones macro and to top it off being made to pay for your own rewards never leaves a good taste in anyones mouth lol, I hope STS reconsiders how the event works and what they call a prize or reward item
    Quote Originally Posted by Endpoints View Post
    It's actually the same threshold as last year's Halloween event.
    500,000 isn't as high as you think
    950pts in Halloween manor let's say it takes you 1minute per run
    then it will only take 8hrs and 46minutes to reach gold tier. That doesn't sound impossible in a 14 days event.
    Actually from my farming group, we reached 500 k in just over 4 hours. The point being: 500k is totally attainable as Endpoints has noted.

    Also, if there was suspected macroing happening during this event, I hope Cinco can see right through it. I can assure you though that most, if not all, people at the top 10 are not macroing. We are grinding hard.

    From the past and from what I can remember, the only notorious case(s) of macroing is from the gold farming events. Many of these leaderboard farm events have been quite okay.
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    Anybody know how much roughly the fire angel set is going to cost if I hit gold tier? Need to know so I can save up the gold ready for it xD

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fritzlright View Post
    Anybody know how much roughly the fire angel set is going to cost if I hit gold tier? Need to know so I can save up the gold ready for it xD
    I dont think is gonna costa gold is probably plats

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    Guys i would like to ask you guys something will the mythic set be purchased by gold or purchased by platinums?

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    What would make these type event far more compelling is a true individual PVE competition, and a LB that reflected an individual score. Right now the LB only reflects group scores ... a player interested in the thrill of a completion is really playing for 10th instead of 11th place or 50th verse 51st.
    At some point the groups have to break ranks if they want to know who really wins number 1 spot ... but there’s no incentive for that. If you could design it to score these events individually while playing in groups, that would force a competition and be far more compelling,

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    Not related to the thread and I appreciate everything Cinco has done but......

    When will this game stop focusing so much on PVE?
    Killing computer generated bots for 8 hrs a day isn't anyone's idea of fun.
    A pvp event down the line is where it should be at.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vapourised View Post
    Not related to the thread and I appreciate everything Cinco has done but......

    When will this game stop focusing so much on PVE?
    Killing computer generated bots for 8 hrs a day isn't anyone's idea of fun.
    A pvp event down the line is where it should be at.
    Bruh fr and always event make the LB pve broke as hell ...you cinco need do a lb for "pve event" and one for normal "pve"
    And im stilll waiting for a PVE&PVP season weekly or whatever
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    You get event points for just showing up in the dungeon ... that’s what I mean ... same as “leeching” exp in pve.

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    Pvp is way too unfair depending the region because of The ping, a Philippines guy cant really beat an equal powerful and skilled american guy. Maybe they should work on a different kind pf pve not that repetitive, or with cathegories. Something other than repeat The same thing over and over again, but OC that requires time so we as players should be comprehensive and stop pushing. And besides, pvp should be only honor tbh, but i can see lots of guys complaining already, maybe a PvP honor with raised speed, i hate that about PvP, and con The freaking warlock dungeon too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PockytheOG View Post
    Pvp is way too unfair depending the region because of The ping, a Philippines guy cant really beat an equal powerful and skilled american guy. Maybe they should work on a different kind pf pve not that repetitive, or with cathegories. Something other than repeat The same thing over and over again, but OC that requires time so we as players should be comprehensive and stop pushing. And besides, pvp should be only honor tbh, but i can see lots of guys complaining already, maybe a PvP honor with raised speed, i hate that about PvP, and con The freaking warlock dungeon too.

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    Honor sucks 100 sets are just who hits buttons faster gotta be braindead if u think thats skill
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