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    Devs can you please explain the reason why you suddenly decided to remove the points for these achievements? It seems unfair for those who exerted effort and spent countless of hours to gain flag aps. I understand the outcry of those saying its unfair now that they are gonna need more help to open rooms to flag after yesterdays update but its still something that can be done just harder. But with the decision to remove flag aps you outright toss away the effort of those people who worked for it. Could have been better if it was back to the way it was and everyone will be happy.

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    +1 I agree it’s not fair for who did 10k flags the hard way spend hours and hours in ctf rooms so the new lb runners just get it for free with zero hard work or waste of time so pls just bring back flags as it was the normal way where anyone can open the room easy and flag so it’s fair for all .

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    +1 please bring it back. Alot of ppl worked hard for it. Those complaining about opening ctf maps didnt want the aps taken away, just for the ways to open the map to go back to what it originally was. Honor ctf pvp seem to have messed that up. Some of us dont give a flip about pvp

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    -1 They did Hardwork for it. But everyone knows , they didn't get it by playing. They just went to clean lobbies and flagged with a friend by using glitch to open the map. Its a Huge Time waste. Just my Opinion.

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    +1 bring the aps back please, it's unfair

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    I agree, an explanation would be nice. It was a super hard achievement and by just tossing it away like that it feels like all that effort has been for nothing. Don't forget the dedication to complete the flags achievements is insane.

    If the chances are zero for it to return, perhaps it's an idea to compensate those who worked hard for it?

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    Indeed - these AP's should have been pulled a long time ago. It is clear that these AP's (especially the last few) were not achievable without using the CTF start glitch... which is just extremely cheesy and not really worth supporting. For this reason, they're now gone.

    The entire team and I do understand what you mean when you assert how much work went in to getting the top-level CTF APs. Even though it is total cheese, we respect the difficulty of getting another person to glitch open a CTF room and run for 10K flags. Obviously this does take a considerable amount of time! But you also know that this is not 'gameplay;' it's just a weird illegitimate AP grind that, as I said above, should have been removed a long time ago.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cinco View Post
    Indeed - these AP's should have been pulled a long time ago. It is clear that these AP's (especially the last few) were not achievable without using the CTF start glitch... which is just extremely cheesy and not really worth supporting. For this reason, they're now gone.

    The entire team and I do understand what you mean when you assert how much work went in to getting the top-level CTF APs. Even though it is total cheese, we respect the difficulty of getting another person to glitch open a CTF room and run for 10K flags. Obviously this does take a considerable amount of time! But you also know that this is not 'gameplay;' it's just a weird illegitimate AP grind that, as I said above, should have been removed a long time ago.
    You had to FIX long time ago, not delete.

    Is that possible you prefere delete things instead of fixing them?

    You make disappointed all this way

    People cant get easy flag ap and they cry and u delete it

    People cant get shuyal arena score and u think of removing it

    Remove all the leaderbords so none will bother anymore with running competition in this game.

    Ridiculous..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cinco View Post
    Indeed - these AP's should have been pulled a long time ago. It is clear that these AP's (especially the last few) were not achievable without using the CTF start glitch... which is just extremely cheesy and not really worth supporting. For this reason, they're now gone.

    The entire team and I do understand what you mean when you assert how much work went in to getting the top-level CTF APs. Even though it is total cheese, we respect the difficulty of getting another person to glitch open a CTF room and run for 10K flags. Obviously this does take a considerable amount of time! But you also know that this is not 'gameplay;' it's just a weird illegitimate AP grind that, as I said above, should have been removed a long time ago.
    I'm a long time pvper.

    I have 2.5k flag aps. I'm glad that you decided to remove that painful ap which didn't have any good since CTF was always a versus room or a pure flag room.

    Allow us to play real CTF matches in Honor Ranked.

    Please consider removing the 10k elite runs of all the not relevant maps

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    Quote Originally Posted by Titanium View Post
    I'm a long time pvper.

    I have 2.5k flag aps. I'm glad that you decided to remove that painful ap which didn't have any good since CTF was always a versus room or a pure flag room.

    Allow us to play real CTF matches in Honor Ranked.

    Please consider removing the 10k elite runs of all the not relevant maps
    Yeah also remove the 1k bosses make it 100, also remove every leaderboard because im a lazy *** and i want to ruin leaderboard for the people who worked hard for it


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kennytheripper View Post
    Yeah also remove the 1k bosses make it 100, also remove every leaderboard because im a lazy *** and i want to ruin leaderboard for the people who worked hard for it


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    Quote Originally Posted by Cinco View Post
    Indeed - these AP's should have been pulled a long time ago. It is clear that these AP's (especially the last few) were not achievable without using the CTF start glitch... which is just extremely cheesy and not really worth supporting. For this reason, they're now gone.

    The entire team and I do understand what you mean when you assert how much work went in to getting the top-level CTF APs. Even though it is total cheese, we respect the difficulty of getting another person to glitch open a CTF room and run for 10K flags. Obviously this does take a considerable amount of time! But you also know that this is not 'gameplay;' it's just a weird illegitimate AP grind that, as I said above, should have been removed a long time ago.
    I respect STS’s decision on the CTF 10K AP. However dummy farmers use the CTF map (by locking the map so its closed to randoms) to farm dummy for the PvP 10k kill AP, will we see PvP 10k Kill AP be removed too? Also what about hauntlet? Many player bot this map for pve kills. Yes their isn’t any APs for kills, however each players pve kills count towards guild rankings.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cinco View Post
    Indeed - these AP's should have been pulled a long time ago. It is clear that these AP's (especially the last few) were not achievable without using the CTF start glitch... which is just extremely cheesy and not really worth supporting. For this reason, they're now gone.

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    Thats hypocritical to say when ya'll released Housing aps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cinco View Post
    Indeed - these AP's should have been pulled a long time ago. It is clear that these AP's (especially the last few) were not achievable without using the CTF start glitch... which is just extremely cheesy and not really worth supporting. For this reason, they're now gone.

    The entire team and I do understand what you mean when you assert how much work went in to getting the top-level CTF APs. Even though it is total cheese, we respect the difficulty of getting another person to glitch open a CTF room and run for 10K flags. Obviously this does take a considerable amount of time! But you also know that this is not 'gameplay;' it's just a weird illegitimate AP grind that, as I said above, should have been removed a long time ago.
    Just the fact that it's a pvp zone, the goal there is help your team to goal flags, it started to be wrong when pvpers went to ctf and kill kill kill kill and no flag, so there was a division between Ppl who wanna have fun in pvp and flaggers, that's why since that moment sts should remove it, all of this, without talking about dummy users, cus there are lot of them alive yet and I think they are the first who cry for this

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cinco View Post
    Indeed - these AP's should have been pulled a long time ago. It is clear that these AP's (especially the last few) were not achievable without using the CTF start glitch... which is just extremely cheesy and not really worth supporting. For this reason, they're now gone.

    The entire team and I do understand what you mean when you assert how much work went in to getting the top-level CTF APs. Even though it is total cheese, we respect the difficulty of getting another person to glitch open a CTF room and run for 10K flags. Obviously this does take a considerable amount of time! But you also know that this is not 'gameplay;' it's just a weird illegitimate AP grind that, as I said above, should have been removed a long time ago.
    I totally, entirely agree for once, good job

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cinco View Post
    Indeed - these AP's should have been pulled a long time ago. It is clear that these AP's (especially the last few) were not achievable without using the CTF start glitch... which is just extremely cheesy and not really worth supporting. For this reason, they're now gone.

    The entire team and I do understand what you mean when you assert how much work went in to getting the top-level CTF APs. Even though it is total cheese, we respect the difficulty of getting another person to glitch open a CTF room and run for 10K flags. Obviously this does take a considerable amount of time! But you also know that this is not 'gameplay;' it's just a weird illegitimate AP grind that, as I said above, should have been removed a long time ago.
    You have only had one job, as a dev. One job if its been too long overdue the fault is in your side and the glitch its also your job people, you guys don't even sound taking the responsibility of being the cheesy devs, just wanna say truth before this cheesy cinco guy, ban me (that's what he do best). keep driving the game down hill cheesy devs!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Inspiron View Post
    You have only had one job, as a dev. One job if its been too long overdue the fault is in your side and the glitch its also your job people, you guys don't even sound taking the responsibility of being the cheesy devs, just wanna say truth before this cheesy cinco guy, ban me (that's what he do best). keep driving the game down hill cheesy devs!
    You do realise devs have changed over the years... has had soooooo many improvements Implemented over the years... an rather then let it just sit there it’s taken time but they going around fixing adding n changing up things all the time... so to call what you posted as “truth” is a bit far fetched... would have been better off starting the post with “ this is just my opinion....blah blah blah”
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    Quote Originally Posted by Inspiron View Post
    You have only had one job, as a dev. One job if its been too long overdue the fault is in your side and the glitch its also your job people, you guys don't even sound taking the responsibility of being the cheesy devs, just wanna say truth before this cheesy cinco guy, ban me (that's what he do best). keep driving the game down hill cheesy devs!
    Being a software engineer myself, developers have more than one job. They have a plethora of jobs and they are not as easy or simple as you think. This is entirely disrespectful and you should consider deleting this post.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cinco View Post
    Indeed - these AP's should have been pulled a long time ago. It is clear that these AP's (especially the last few) were not achievable without using the CTF start glitch... which is just extremely cheesy and not really worth supporting. For this reason, they're now gone.

    The entire team and I do understand what you mean when you assert how much work went in to getting the top-level CTF APs. Even though it is total cheese, we respect the difficulty of getting another person to glitch open a CTF room and run for 10K flags. Obviously this does take a considerable amount of time! But you also know that this is not 'gameplay;' it's just a weird illegitimate AP grind that, as I said above, should have been removed a long time ago.
    Thank you for your explanation @Cinco. I still think it's sad that it got removed just like that. As one of the players who put in the time and work to compete for top LB it just feels like we did all the work for nothing.

    I do respect the choice to get rid of these achievements and I can also understand why the team decided to do this. A fair point made by some one that we just gotta adapt to the changes.

    There's one thing I'd like to ask. With all due respect please taking into consideration that these players who completed these flag achievement series also put in a lot of work to get gold and buy decent/the best PvP gear. A lot of these players spent a good amount of money to buy platinum to be able to do this. Is there a way for you to compensate these players (referring to players who completed the flag achievements)? It just seems unfair to me to bring this matter to a close like this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cross View Post
    Thank you for your explanation @Cinco. I still think it's sad that it got removed just like that. As one of the players who put in the time and work to compete for top LB it just feels like we did all the work for nothing.

    I do respect the choice to get rid of these achievements and I can also understand why the team decided to do this. A fair point made by some one that we just gotta adapt to the changes.

    There's one thing I'd like to ask. With all due respect please taking into consideration that these players who completed these flag achievement series also put in a lot of work to get gold and buy decent/the best PvP gear. A lot of these players spent a good amount of money to buy platinum to be able to do this. Is there a way for you to compensate these players (referring to players who completed the flag achievements)? It just seems unfair to me to bring this matter to a close like this.
    Why should they compensate? Should they also compensate players who had a Green Arlor Set before it got released to the masses? Should they compensate players who bought Hisha for 80m and then it got released to masses? Should they compensate players who bought Zhulong for 100m before the “aura” of the pet was nerfed?

    You know where this is going. They won’t have to compensate anything, and I’m sure they will not, and that’s a good thing. An Mmo-Rpg is a living matter, and you have to accept that fact when you play it. Anything can happen at any time

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