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    As long as the hosts are being transparent about everything; such as elaborating the mechanics, details and disclaimers, then there is no problem Knowing what is advertised becomes your call whether to engage or not.

    If you feel cheated, then the customer service is there.

    But just make sure you have receipts on your end to back up your doubt, and not bombard the forums with these repetitive threads that players fill with false accusations and defamation narratives.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Ilove_Poopoo View Post
    As long as the hosts are being transparent about everything; such as elaborating the mechanics, details and disclaimers, then there is no problem Knowing what is advertised becomes your call whether to engage or not.

    If you feel cheated, then the customer service is there.

    But just make sure you have receipts on your end to back up your doubt, and not bombard the forums with these repetitive threads that players fill with false accusations and defamation narratives.



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    you know the point is not the host getting an alt acc and make it win, since its on livestream and its quite unlikely. The point is he is organizing a derby by enriching from others money which usually fish smaller players because they are enticed on huge money, dont get me wrong if they werent new they woudnt give their personal items like what u see most in their raffle livestream, they give ebon, desire set, endless set, they dont even have pure. And the host? he is doing a 100m raffle but still collecting up to 300m, whats that? he profit 200m easily? gullible others? okay u may say " no, no gun was pointed on them to buy a ticket" then why enrich? whats the purpose of the raffle? clearly the purpose is the host to earn millions of profit very easy organizing a derby and enriching from it. If he wants to make all happy with good intentions, the raffle prizes should come from his own pocket and if doing raffle when reached the amount of raffle prize, the raffle should start immediately, e.g 100m is reach bought in tickets then start no more asking for another tickets (though I personally disagree on whole raffle thing buying of tickets ). The concept is clear gambling should not be allowed and perpetrated by players. The devs have spendalot okay? but its petty gamble and is safe and secure, no other players/host benefitting from it. If in your logic this raffle gambling is considered then it can be considered a haven for the gold buyers etc. e.g Huge trades will be excused as "I won in pvp yes give me my 500m, 1b etc" Think..

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    Quote Originally Posted by dynastygaming View Post
    you know the point is not the host getting an alt acc and make it win, since its on livestream and its quite unlikely. The point is he is organizing a derby by enriching from others money which usually fish smaller players because they are enticed on huge money, dont get me wrong if they werent new they woudnt give their personal items like what u see most in their raffle livestream, they give ebon, desire set, endless set, they dont even have pure. And the host? he is doing a 100m raffle but still collecting up to 300m, whats that? he profit 200m easily? gullible others? okay u may say " no, no gun was pointed on them to buy a ticket" then why enrich? whats the purpose of the raffle? clearly the purpose is the host to earn millions of profit very easy organizing a derby and enriching from it. If he wants to make all happy with good intentions, the raffle prizes should come from his own pocket and if doing raffle when reached the amount of raffle prize, the raffle should start immediately, e.g 100m is reach bought in tickets then start no more asking for another tickets (though I personally disagree on whole raffle thing buying of tickets ). The concept is clear gambling should not be allowed and perpetrated by players. The devs have spendalot okay? but its petty gamble and is safe and secure, no other players/host benefitting from it. If in your logic this raffle gambling is considered then it can be considered a haven for the gold buyers etc. e.g Huge trades will be excused as "I won in pvp yes give me my 500m, 1b etc" Think..
    My take is the backlash the hosts are receiving, despite them being transparent. I'm viewing this in a logical standpoint.

    The morality of this raffle, as you've implied, is a different matter and has nothing to do, or to add in my initial post.



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    Quote Originally Posted by dynastygaming View Post
    you know the point is not the host getting an alt acc and make it win, since its on livestream and its quite unlikely. The point is he is organizing a derby by enriching from others money which usually fish smaller players because they are enticed on huge money, dont get me wrong if they werent new they woudnt give their personal items like what u see most in their raffle livestream, they give ebon, desire set, endless set, they dont even have pure. And the host? he is doing a 100m raffle but still collecting up to 300m, whats that? he profit 200m easily? gullible others? okay u may say " no, no gun was pointed on them to buy a ticket" then why enrich? whats the purpose of the raffle? clearly the purpose is the host to earn millions of profit very easy organizing a derby and enriching from it. If he wants to make all happy with good intentions, the raffle prizes should come from his own pocket and if doing raffle when reached the amount of raffle prize, the raffle should start immediately, e.g 100m is reach bought in tickets then start no more asking for another tickets (though I personally disagree on whole raffle thing buying of tickets ). The concept is clear gambling should not be allowed and perpetrated by players. The devs have spendalot okay? but its petty gamble and is safe and secure, no other players/host benefitting from it. If in your logic this raffle gambling is considered then it can be considered a haven for the gold buyers etc. e.g Huge trades will be excused as "I won in pvp yes give me my 500m, 1b etc" Think..
    Yeah they never hide that they made profit from these raffles? Someone must not have watch the stream to know this and I guess your one of them Everything you stated is just ignorance Nd you need to understand people have feelings especially when someone hasn’t done anything wrong. Your just one of those guys who didn’t win or just trying to start drama.

    Once again if developers want to investigate the situation they have all the streams to look back on and they can IP track all these “alts” you claim won or these “friends” you stated with chat logs they can back track on. Every ticket has its price if someone choose to participate no one forces them to do it and the people who are doing the raffle inform about how the raffle works...

    These individuals have a large platform and have a reputation to hold but only if you knew how these guys felt seeing all the negative things you guys are saying would make you apologize for the things your saying about these guys. The part that pisses me off that we could never have anything good because someone always have to ruin it. I guess people pockets is your business now hope you enjoy this moment

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