I know it does but StS has it all crop down to how often an item drops -.-Originally Posted by xfrzen
I'll use your own logic against you...
Luck implies there is a chance to win or lose, guess what? That's gambling
I know it does but StS has it all crop down to how often an item drops -.-I'll use your own logic against you...
Luck implies there is a chance to win or lose, guess what? That's gambling
This argument can continue forever, but so do slot machines, I live in WA state too so there are 5 casinos right near me I've used em but percentages still imply its a gamble.... but either way the rates suck...
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When we do a level run and don't obtain a legendary item, we didn't get anything out of it but we didn't lose anything either. With these packs, we risk not getting the legendary item and end up losing real money from it as well.
That's gambling.
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So when you buy a pack of sports cards, and they have a chance at a rare card, are you saying that is gambling too? That's a prime example of what we have here. You are guaranteed to get certain items, and there is a chance at getting a super rare legendary.
Sports cards are marketed to children, and as far as I know they are not banned anywhere as gambling.
You may not get what you want, you may get a bunch of what you already have, but you always get something in return.
KillaSkillz- my guess 8312
Be lucky u had platinum. Again, you'll be sorry u did that 23 time things...
Jugernuget:Guess: 576
Or you could not buy them if you're unwilling to take the risk or don't think you can afford it.
Don't be disgruntled. It was your choice to spend.
I bought for and didn't get one. Then i stopped. self control folks.
AL: Rare (Rogue)/Common (Warrior)/Mythic (Sorcerer)
You have to know before pressing the purchase button that there is a very good chance youre not going to get the item youre hoping for.
The problem I have with these grab box items is that they are currently better than in game drops. If plat items continue to be better than looted items, i won't stick around with this game for long.
The way pocket legends does there plat items is perfect, imo.
gf.
If the main thread was locked why did you make another? No sense. With that I request a lock
Nobody can screw up like americans
Lol..why do you request a lock? O.o
gf.
Look at his name.
j/k
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Word of advice ; don't spend beyond your means.
More words of advice... if you spend frivolously and don't get lucky, don't go complaining about it saying how it is unethical. That screams of desperation and entitlement.
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The op was not requesting a refund, he was just venting, apparently. I don't think the other thread was locked for the reasons you think. There were posts deleted from the end of the discussion that probably got it locked.
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It's not gambling. Why? Because you got exactly what you paid for, a pack that contains X number of items. It's a purchase. The items contained in the pack are random and some might be better or more desirable than others, but you still get X number of items for the same price every time.
Finally someone nails it! It's not gambling due to the fact that you're paying for a product and getting what you paid for; you're not paying for the Firebrand item but rather a pack of items that you can use in your 3D quests. Bringing it back to the sports card analogy, if you buy a pack of cards hoping to win the gold embossed rookie of the year card that is advertized on every foil package, even if you don't win that particular card you still get to keep the cards that you did pay the $2.99 +tax for. No one is going to take that away from you, period. When gambling, you're spending money in hopes of winning that jackpot but you recognize that you could win absolutely nothing.
I don't condone the way that STS is using the best items in the game as a grab bag scenario, but it is good marketing and plenty of other companies do it. I know that I don't like to try my luck at those things, so I'll avoid them at all costs (even if it means not having the best item in the game). If you cannot stop yourself from spending in hopes of getting something that it's promised then perhaps you should avoid purchasing them as well.
How about an official dev response:
If you buy a random pack, you're always rewarded. It may or may not be your favorite item, but the outcome is always positive.
Actual gambling, like at a casino, runs the risk of an absolute negative. There is no guarantee of any positive outcome and the odds are either entirely for you, or against you at either a gain or absolute loss.
Think of it like buying a booster pack of cards from your favorite card game or putting a quarter in a machine that gives you a toy at random.Chance.
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Although my comments in the last thread before it was locked may have been considered negative, there is probably some truth in what I said, regardless if that was the intent or not. On the other hand, in support of STS, the item pack descriptions clearly state that you have a "chance" at getting the legendary item that is pictured. I assume that the terms of platinum sales / purchases require that we are either adults, or minors with parent / guardian consent and that we are capable of understanding what we are purchasing. I was lucky enough to get a legendary in my first bundle, but have not in any bundle since (I have gotten other pinks though). I do wish they were stashable though, since I usually just liquidate my unused items.
Growwle - My guess is 1050
Wasteful thread is wasteful. Pm would've sufficed.
I feel so stupid. :/
I do remember making these posts, but I don't remember them being this terrible. I wish I would have said something earlier than now but I didn't think that I had said silly and extremely absurd things. It was hard to read over my posts.
I was wrong and I'm okay with being wrong. I should have thought things over instead of rushing through my posts to get my point across so I could get some sleep. It would have been better to have just gotten some sleep and gave my opinion on a rested mind in the morning though.
I greatly appreciate receiving feedback proving me wrong instead of being called an idiot, so that's an ease on the embarrassment.
I hope I didn't come off as someone trying to back out of a discussion because he's losing. I just strongly disagree with what I've said. With the packs, we still get our money's worth. It's not like we receive nothing from purchasing them.
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This new gaming model may eventually result in laws to protect consumers. The iPad has a lot of games that cause little kids to pay "free" and then the parents get a surprise bill.
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/foru...n-Smurfberries
http://www.azfamily.com/video/yahoo-...128329453.html
Sure, that what we need. More governmental intrusion into our personal lives. /sarcasm
The majority of these cases could be solved by the parents actually parenting. I can't say for sure about iDevices, I don't own one, but the Android market can be set up to require a password before any paid content can be paid for and downloaded. All it takes is a little effort on the parents part. I know, I know, strange concept in this day and age.
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