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    Quote Originally Posted by PatD View Post
    I understand your point, but what i'm saying is that i think it would completely remove the good old way of recruiting new people, by this i mean to talk and run with them before deciding if it would be a good idea to invite them to our guild (and this is helping alot to make town and map more active).

    Hence removing the social aspect of recruiting and also removing the purpose of having recruiter, i still think that this way would be too easy and would have bad consequence on the long run.

    I would personally like this idea, but i think it would be a bad idea.
    I don’t think any guild even does that where they run with someone before they let them join. It’s kinda strange, it’s mostly if you meet the requirements, come and join

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    Quote Originally Posted by Undershooting View Post
    I don’t think any guild even does that where they run with someone before they let them join. It’s kinda strange, it’s mostly if you meet the requirements, come and join
    Yes it is true in many case but then the recruiter would be obsolete, no more recruiting event, and ppl would only apply in guild that are on lb?
    or there would be a list of all the guild in the game?

    both way i can see a problem here

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    Quote Originally Posted by PatD View Post
    Yes it is true in many cases but then the recruiter would be obsolete, no more recruiting event, and ppl would only apply in guild that are on lb?
    or there would be a list of all the guild in the game?

    both way i can see a problem here
    Guilds could have the option to turn it on or off,

    Also, it supplements recruiters as if they have access to be allowed to accept the requests it can show on log the person who accepted the request invited them.

    recruitment events consist of people going around spreading the word about your guild and inviting people who are interested. If someone at the time decides they don't want to check it out now, with this sort of option they can later if they don't see the recruiter again so it doesn't take away from that either.

    Also can be done so you type in the name, a bit like when sending a battleground request. could make a request to join button on the guild lb list for the top 50 which would make wanting to get your guild onto leaderboard more enticing too besides the visual recognition
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    Quote Originally Posted by BaronB View Post
    Guilds could have the option to turn it on or off,

    Also, it supplements recruiters as if they have access to be allowed to accept the requests it can show on log the person who accepted the request invited them.

    recruitment events consist of people going around spreading the word about your guild and inviting people who are interested. If someone at the time decides they don't want to check it out now, with this sort of option they can later if they don't see the recruiter again so it doesn't take away from that either.

    Also can be done so you type in the name, a bit like when sending a battleground request. could make a request to join button on the guild lb list for the top 50 which would make wanting to get your guild onto leaderboard more enticing too besides the visual recognition
    This is exactly what we need to avoid, it would not help at all small guild who are trying to get on LB, new people would just send request to all guild on lb until they get accept, hence create a huge disadvantage to the guild who are not on it yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PatD View Post
    Yes it is true in many case but then the recruiter would be obsolete, no more recruiting event, and ppl would only apply in guild that are on lb?
    or there would be a list of all the guild in the game?

    both way i can see a problem here
    Because it is already obsolete lmao, Guild nowadays only invite a user if they meet the certain requirements. We cannot control the user's end regardless you invite him or not. If he wants to join your guild he will.

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    Quote Originally Posted by umarrahim View Post
    If people want to join top guilds, they will. You can't force them to stay.

    Anyone who meets the requirements always chooses to apply for the top guilds, small guilds only have those players who are new.

    If these new players get good stats and start meeting req for top guilds, then only it's upto their opinion of the guild, if they like, they'll stay. Otherwise they'll move on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xtian02 View Post
    Because it is already obsolete lmao, Guild nowadays only invite a user if they meet the certain requirements. We cannot control the user's end regardless you invite him or not. If he wants to join your guild he will.
    You are right, many guild prefer quantity to quality, but there is still some guild who prefer to be less but spend more time on social part to make guildies feel more at home, hence the need to talk a bit with newcomers whenever its possible
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    Quote Originally Posted by Undershooting View Post
    I don’t think any guild even does that where they run with someone before they let them join. It’s kinda strange, it’s mostly if you meet the requirements, come and join
    My guild used to run with every player b4 they joined . But atm with the hardest maps being on a timer it makes it most difficult time wise to do this.

    I disagree with idea of OP. Leave it as is. As it will put more unnecessary work on offis who already (in my guild) have their hands full.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PatD View Post
    This is exactly what we need to avoid, it would not help at all small guild who are trying to get on LB, new people would just send request to all guild on lb until they get accept, hence create a huge disadvantage to the guild who are not on it yet.
    Yeah acceptable perhaps putting a request button on lb itself is going to far with it.

    In the 7+ years I've had my guide I've never had/held any sort of recruitment contents or recruitment drives (besides other guilds holding them and messaging my members or even myself to join which is something I'm not a fan of personally aways) but I can accept this is how others choose to do things and that's fine.

    Just because I might not be a fan of the idea or dislike it, I won't close my eyes to its benefits. Being someone whos online a lot I literally will get a pm daily from someone asking to join to which myself or my limited number of officers/recruiters aren't always able to respond

    Why having such a feature available is such a good idea and I'm sure to be welcomed also by others and making it an option to have on or off (a bit like the battleground requests) would be an overall improvement to the general "quality of life".

    Could also not have the friends request feature or list, could say it would encourage people to be more active in towns instead of just seeing if friends are online and only messaging them... but again its a "quality of life" feature that's there and free for us to choose to use it or not.

    Just because you might personally not see any use from it, it's not to say others won't


    Quote Originally Posted by Avaree View Post

    I disagree with idea of OP. Leave it as is. As it will put more unnecessary work on offis who already (in my guild) have their hands full.

    As I mentioned above, if its a feature that is implemented so the guild master can choose to have it on or off (like battleground requests) then you won't need to worry about any additional work for your officers.

    Plus if its done so a recruiter can also be the one to accept the requests made, it will give the recruiter rank a bit more depth and meaning which would be an added bonus as the current guild ranking system is a bit outdated and "meh" which could do with improvements (but that topic is another matter of discussion all together)


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    Quote Originally Posted by BaronB View Post
    Yeah acceptable perhaps putting a request button on lb itself is going to far with it.

    In the 7+ years I've had my guide I've never had/held any sort of recruitment contents or recruitment drives (besides other guilds holding them and messaging my members or even myself to join which is something I'm not a fan of personally aways) but I can accept this is how others choose to do things and that's fine.

    Just because I might not be a fan of the idea or dislike it, I won't close my eyes to its benefits. Being someone whos online a lot I literally will get a pm daily from someone asking to join to which myself or my limited number of officers/recruiters aren't always able to respond

    Why having such a feature available is such a good idea and I'm sure to be welcomed also by others and making it an option to have on or off (a bit like the battleground requests) would be an overall improvement to the general "quality of life".

    Could also not have the friends request feature or list, could say it would encourage people to be more active in towns instead of just seeing if friends are online and only messaging them... but again its a "quality of life" feature that's there and free for us to choose to use it or not.

    Just because you might personally not see any use from it, it's not to say others won't





    As I mentioned above, if its a feature that is implemented so the guild master can choose to have it on or off (like battleground requests) then you won't need to worry about any additional work for your officers.

    Plus if its done so a recruiter can also be the one to accept the requests made, it will give the recruiter rank a bit more depth and meaning which would be an added bonus as the current guild ranking system is a bit outdated and "meh" which could do with improvements (but that topic is another matter of discussion all together)


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    I never said i would not like or that it would be useless, ofc it would be a "quality of life" upgrade, as i said in post before i would personaly like the idea, BUT i think it would kind of damage the dynamic of this social part of the game for all the reason i said in previous post.

    And of course i might be wrong but i think the long term effect must be think of thoroughly before being add.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PatD View Post
    I never said i would not like or that it would be useless, ofc it would be a "quality of life" upgrade, as i said in post before i would personaly like the idea, BUT i think it would kind of damage the dynamic of this social part of the game for all the reason i said in previous post.

    And of course i might be wrong but i think the long term effect must be think of thoroughly before being add.
    Fair enough sorry I implied you didn't like the idea, as you did post you did like the idea.

    Yeah cannot see this damaging the social aspect even in the long run, it simply would enhance it for reasons already mentioned

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