Honor temple challenge

[Irg]

I still remember the first temple event that ever dropped, i got
so many good ideas in mind about how to do everything efficiently.
But quickly realized the gap between average and op gear can never be overcomed,
and this really hurts.
Imo, those temple challenge should be a test of true skill and creativity
from the getgo and shouldn't be about spamming with op gear

Lets make it simple,
Everything is exactly same as normal temple, except:
Awakening on all gear will be nulled
All jewel above fortified will be considered as fortified
Elixir and consumables (besides potions) are not allowed

All weapons, armor proc & pets combination will be allowed and with hotbar enabled
It's all about skill, reflex and creativity now

[Pulaxgang]

I like this.

[Xtremez]

Sort of levels the playing field when it comes to awakes. But do note that it technically still doesn't qualify as honor since players could still use different setups of gear and whatnot....

[Naaabmage]

U want awakes removed for event? Wtf is this..hell they may as well remove all awakes for any event right? Even with big events like Halloween too? So no one is stronger at killing mobs there or have op ms for running big events..this is what u want right? Everything to be fair for an event....how about u grind and earn some decent gear so u can run temple lb...smh

[Irg]

U want awakes removed for event? Wtf is this..hell they may as well remove all awakes for any event right? Even with big events like Halloween too? So no one is stronger at killing mobs there or have op ms for running big events..this is what u want right? Everything to be fair for an event....how about u grind and earn some decent gear so u can run temple lb...smh

Did you even read it properly my friend?

[worshipped]

I still remember the first temple event that ever dropped, i got
so many good ideas in mind about how to do everything efficiently.
But quickly realized the gap between average and op gear can never be overcomed,
and this really hurts.
Imo, those temple challenge should be a test of true skill and creativity
from the getgo and shouldn't be about spamming with op gear

Lets make it simple,
Everything is exactly same as normal temple, except:
Awakening on all gear will be nulled
All jewel above fortified will be considered as fortified
Elixir and consumables (besides potions) are not allowed

All weapons, armor proc & pets combination will be allowed and with hotbar enabled
It's all about skill, reflex and creativity now

Ahh yes yes ofc. Better yet make honor gear for temple event and make everyone use the same device and network to eliminate lag issues and make it more fair. And from next season onwards remove speed awakes from gear and make people run crypt hauntlet and dungeons with "honor speed gear" to make it more fair.

Bud there is a reason why people spent tons of gold on good awakened gears, and it includes this. Hope u can understand

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[trade]

Elixir and consumables (besides potions) are not allowed

+1 only to this, or atleast make elixirs autoopening (like pet autofeed) :/

But quickly realized the gap between average and op gear can never be overcomed,
and this really hurts.

what exactly hurts? that people worked to get their gears and using them atm?

It's all about skill, reflex and creativity now

Creativity was at 1st maybe 2nd temple event, everyone had his own ways, now its only about luck on some things... + good gears ofc
no need much skill to get into that lb

anyways, temple events becoming like evg monthly badge, hope to see better rewards and different mobs at next temple event and not spamming them every 3 months...

[Xerofith]

Sorry to break it to you but LBs aren't meant to be fair.

Great idea though +1 for the thought that was put into this

[Irg]

Sorry to break it to you but LBs aren't meant to be fair.

Great idea though +1 for the thought that was put into this

Wasn't that same for pvp? And they made an honor gamemode so i see the potential.

Besides, I don't see any reason of including this honor gamemode in any other event
other than temple, because temple is scored based on surviving rounds and not
amount of clears, i think its a perfect idea to include some actually strategy in event lb

Just my opinion tho, but a change would be nice

[Xerofith]

Wasn't that same for pvp? And they made an honor gamemode so i see the potential.

Besides, I don't see any reason of including this honor gamemode in any other event
other than temple, because temple is scored based on surviving rounds and not
amount of clears, i think its a perfect idea to include some actually strategy in event lb

Just my opinion tho, but a change would be nice

The purpose behind honor PvP was to revive endgame PvP in the game not to give everyone a shot at leaderboards. Imo LB was just an incentive for more players to compete in ranked matches to show the community that PVP isn't dead because an RPG without PVP loses its flair.
Temple LB and any another lb you're talking about is a small fraction of the Endgame PVE aspect of the game. But before honor PvP was introduced Endgame PVP as a whole was completely non-existent. (Except for the same 2-3 guilds settling their grudges at tdm)

Also the entire fun behind trying out different combinations of gears and pets to move up leaderboard rankings is lost in your suggestion. If you can't use your gear superiority to get an edge at leaderboards might as well throw them in the trash

I was not a top 10 mage. I was ranked in 40s during temple lb. Still not complaining about the gear difference though

[Encryptions]

Imo, those temple challenge should be a test of true skill and creativity
from the getgo and shouldn't be about spamming with op gear

Lets make it simple,
Everything is exactly same as normal temple, except:
Awakening on all gear will be nulled
All jewel above fortified will be considered as fortified
Elixir and consumables (besides potions) are not allowed

All weapons, armor proc & pets combination will be allowed and with hotbar enabled
It's all about skill, reflex and creativity now

Temple is about strategy, I got a weak stat rog on top 5 solo lb pretty easily. I found a flaw which was I would die in waves 104+ fast so I swapped my gear to be defense mode and survived until wave 109. My warrior I would axe throw to proc doz axe then switch to doz aegis charge jugg while running left (away from ranged) proc doz aeg ebon aegis then rush kill ranged then crowd control everything else. Here in this vid for example. Proc and skill spamming won't get you on lb.
https://youtu.be/4yTf_82jsaI
1 flaw in null awakes. You majorly hurt rogues and mages but warriors would be fine. Ebon aegis.
-More proof it needs strategy is that 2k+ dex rogues were saying they have an issue on killing the mobs in waves 70+. They have the gears but not the skills. Not being offensive by saying this Im just being honest.
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[menreiki.hayagan11]

Temple is about strategy, I got a weak stat rog on top 5 solo lb pretty easily. I found a flaw which was I would die in waves 104+ fast so I swapped my gear to be defense mode and survived until wave 109. My warrior I would axe throw to proc doz axe then switch to doz aegis charge jugg while running left (away from ranged) proc doz aeg ebon aegis then rush kill ranged then crowd control everything else. Here in this vid for example. Proc and skill spamming won't get you on lb.
https://youtu.be/4yTf_82jsaI
1 flaw in null awakes. You majorly hurt rogues and mages but warriors would be fine. Ebon aegis.
-More proof it needs strategy is that 2k+ dex rogues were saying they have an issue on killing the mobs in waves 70+. They have the gears but not the skills. Not being offensive by saying this Im just being honest.
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Yahh

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[Uereazagr]

Str does not matter at all, gear and aas have really small impact, it is all about strategy and luck on proccing(considering you have the needed hotbar weapons)

[PatD]

Considering how many people have take a break during all those "honor" event, i'm not sure that making a temple with "honor mode" would be a good idea, on the opposite i would suggest that all set bonus, order jewel etc should be effective in temple map, and also reduce the time for a run, aka put wave 100 difficulty at wave 50

[Irg]

Temple is about strategy, I got a weak stat rog on top 5 solo lb pretty easily. I found a flaw which was I would die in waves 104+ fast so I swapped my gear to be defense mode and survived until wave 109. My warrior I would axe throw to proc doz axe then switch to doz aegis charge jugg while running left (away from ranged) proc doz aeg ebon aegis then rush kill ranged then crowd control everything else. Here in this vid for example. Proc and skill spamming won't get you on lb.
https://youtu.be/4yTf_82jsaI
1 flaw in null awakes. You majorly hurt rogues and mages but warriors would be fine. Ebon aegis.
-More proof it needs strategy is that 2k+ dex rogues were saying they have an issue on killing the mobs in waves 70+. They have the gears but not the skills. Not being offensive by saying this Im just being honest.
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If it was the case, then people wont say 2k main stats is the entry for you to even try lb
Also, nulling jewel and awaken is not ment for equity, its ment for equally, hence all
char in the same class will have the same stats, hope that made sense

[Encryptions]

Max stats aren't needed, this is the stats I used mainly for rog. Its mostly about game play. Know when to proc where to move when to go into defence safe mode when to attack what to attack. Imo all limiting gears would do is lower mage and rog top scores and warriors would be close to 1m still since people were able to pass wave 119 which 1 mob there would hit you for over 35k dmg if you don't have any side shields on.

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[firebelt & crystalkiller]

I ran last dragkin with 1600 str set ..arc arie and just basic arcane gears with bd(cuz I used to use bd on evg back then )
Got both lb top #1(gears were worth around 150-200m only mostly cuz clean gear was expensive....clean axe was 40m+ for example)
The guy who has strongest war gear(2500str 40k+hp) in this swamp temple was not able to get even top 50.
So thing is gears don't "Carry" anyone..mostly how much time you invest and find strays and pull them off perfectly is all that matters.

TL;DR all other comments.

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[Irg]

I never said strategy wasn't important. In fact, this event is ment to promote this type of players!
If you do well in normal run even with bad gear, then u will do just fine here...
Or will you? Maybe the strat ur so proud of is actually nothing special and
theres tones of ppl that can do much better, only one way to find out

[firebelt & crystalkiller]

I never said strategy wasn't important. In fact, this event is ment to promote this type of players!
If you do well in normal run with bad gear then u will do just fine here...
Or will you? Maybe the so called strat is actually nothing special and theres tones of ppl that can
do much better, lets wait to find out

True everyone can do ..but depends on the time they invest...I wasn't able to get solo lb on swamp temple(latest) cuz I played it 5 times lessthan dragkin cuz it was boring due to mobs being annoying.
Gears don't matter..ofc u need basic gear and decent awakes ie.5% str per gear or so.

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[profmsb]

I still remember the first temple event that ever dropped, i got
so many good ideas in mind about how to do everything efficiently.
But quickly realized the gap between average and op gear can never be overcomed,
and this really hurts.
Imo, those temple challenge should be a test of true skill and creativity
from the getgo and shouldn't be about spamming with op gear

Lets make it simple,
Everything is exactly same as normal temple, except:
Awakening on all gear will be nulled
All jewel above fortified will be considered as fortified
Elixir and consumables (besides potions) are not allowed

All weapons, armor proc & pets combination will be allowed and with hotbar enabled
It's all about skill, reflex and creativity now

i guess u assume all plyer have same value of ping n lag