Changes to Equipment Procs: Shared Equipment Cooldowns

[YameteSenpai]

It Hurts. especially to the dedicated tanks out there. But it is what it it. Might need some time to accept this new challenge/era. *Sigh*
Looking forward to the expansion and new gear.

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[Tatachaan]

Why not add new rules if the goal is to make balance
Everytime enter map need to make Pt group 1 war 1 mage and 1 rog (this for new maps and evg too)
So no more matters each classes fight about their own classes
Make it all class need to be in Pt and have their own role in party need to synergy to beat the mobs and bosses.
When doing random, will have too 1 mage 1 rog 1 war
In some bigger map maybe will meed 6 in Pt whic is 2 war 2 mages and 2 rogs

I think these will make each classes equal.


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[Jemstroyer]

Dang why? Why "great" you better buff warriors hp and armor, we wont be tanky enough

[Susanne]

I just want a good bow. 🏹

[Muyc]

@cinco
You see all this negative feedbacks to the game and you still doing this ? Think about it man. RIP AL



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[Voorge]

I dont know what to think about this until I see how expansion works along with new arcane weapons but man… being a war in those times might be depressing.

[krt601]

If that's the case, why anyone would want to use skull dozer aegis because the axe have a better proc, then in my opinion aegis would be useless.

[xbell]

Maybe should announced it atleast 1 month before.
So people will slowly adjust and move on.

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[swoutttt]

I dont think this will rip warriors.. I think we just got to spoiled with all the weapon proc stacks. The skull axe for example is actually a pretty good by itself (proc stacking with other weapons made this axe insane). Same for the staff and the daggers. I get why many people are worried but let's give it a chance before we rush into conclusions. It's not that Rogues will melt bosses with only a duggar daggers equipped. (Try it in infested for example). Rogues also benefitted from proc stacking. I'm also not sure but doesn't staff for example gives a better dmg multiplier then daggers for example? With the right balance in mobs and bosses, combined with unique procs I actually see improvement.

[Ikoc2]

I dont think this will rip warriors.. I think we just got to spoiled with all the weapon proc stacks. The skull axe for example is actually a pretty good by itself (proc stacking with other weapons made this axe insane). Same for the staff and the daggers. I get why many people are worried but let's give it a chance before we rush into conclusions. It's not that Rogues will melt bosses with only a duggar daggers equipped. (Try it in infested for example). Rogues also benefitted from proc stacking. I'm also not sure but doesn't staff for example gives a better dmg multiplier then daggers for example? With the right balance in mobs and bosses, combined with unique procs I actually see improvement.

That is the problem because if they remove the proc cooldown they would make the maps from lvl 76 very complicated and delayed the gold farm, the evg nobody would enter and less the rog would honestly damage many things

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[valhir]

its a nerf that should have done long time ago . it was not fair . wars can do evg 3m alone and roges / mages 350k . i still remember that temples event top 5 overall was full of wars in pt . i thank for nerf its what should have been done to make game fair . i wonder wars 2years are procing and no thank to be that op and now they are nerfing they all blame and want quite. tnx for nerf

if the problem is that the warrior does 3m in evg solo and temple..
why not remove your ultimate x6 str since with that you get the most damage when the procs are active
repeating what others say is free
think? ... think is also free

[Inozuke]

That is the problem because if they remove the proc cooldown they would make the maps from lvl 76 very complicated and delayed the gold farm, the evg nobody would enter and less the rog would honestly damage many things

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we are already in 81 leave that map behind for god

[Ikoc2]

we are already in 81 leave that map behind for god

Friend for God, get what I'm telling you, have wisdom, we all already left behind evg and more of us who are from the s1 simply that many will use that map to break record or farm with gl and from this map towards maps higher than lvl 76 It would be difficult for a war and a wizard and the pt of war, wizard and rog would be a bit difficult to pass the maps 76+.

Mr bobaso

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[valhir]

I'll admit that a couple of years back I did not properly respect how disruptive the "proc stacking" meta would become in PvE. So far it has led to the creation of a 'best' class, driven a toxic between players and wrecked our plans for balanced content. I knew enough back then to keep it from further upsetting PvP but failed to correct the problem before it became part of how Warriors (and yes, others) view the fun-factor of combat.

I don't think it's the intention of Warrior class advocates but the negative comments underscore why this change absolutely needs to happen. Like every MMO game AL needs to promote class inter-dependence, not one independently superior class. I am committed to improving game balance and fixing the problems of the past. My intention is not to revert to 'rogue legends,' but to address inequities between my beloved classes.

Unfortunately, the first step down this path is this important change to the "proc stacking" meta.

so this is due to the warrior's imbalance
Wouldn't it be better to weaken the ultimate / skull aegis / skull axe?
Obviously the warrior can only eliminate high level bosses after activating the procs and using his ultimate
because warriors only kill spiders / boss in evg only with proc + ultimate

Nerf /delete x6 str ultimate?
It is the only way to kill bosses in nvg wave +60/evg/mau 5-6, you can check it if you enter the game or search for a video on yt

[snakeeyes]

Are you comedy me?

What???????

[Inozuke]

Friend for God, get what I'm telling you, have wisdom, we all already left behind evg and more of us who are from the s1 simply that many will use that map to break record or farm with gl and from this map towards maps higher than lvl 76 It would be difficult for a war and a wizard and the pt of war, wizard and rog would be a bit difficult to pass the maps 76+.

Mr bobaso

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It is normal that it is more difficult but I prefer that to see warriors doing instakill

[Abebiabeso]

Just straight to the point, most wars are crying because they lost so much gold in a sudden
Im a war myself and im crying cus i hv invested a lot of golds in my gears.
Just take example, the glint went instantly from 50m to like 10m, doz aegis hit 5m too.
That becomes a problem because most of wars have spent countless hours probably just to get good gears in hand and thats f up
Anyone want to give a refund huh
I cant agree more if the system got changed it it what it is, but my hard work lost in a sudden

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[Pyroflame]

Just straight to the point, most wars are crying because they lost so much gold in a sudden
Im a war myself and im crying cus i hv invested a lot of golds in my gears.
Just take example, the glint went instantly from 50m to like 10m, doz aegis hit 5m too.
That becomes a problem because most of wars have spent countless hours probably just to get good gears in hand and thats f up
Anyone want to give a refund huh
I cant agree more if the system got changed it it what it is, but my hard work lost in a sudden

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It is so true. Expansion without economy collapsed. Look at the auction price now, i already see economy collapsed, and the wealth dropped for those paid high for secondary weapon (aegis, gun, bow).
If the proc stacking is the problem, why don’t we limit the number of weapons stack. Like 2 weap or 3 weap or only 3 procs stack in the same character no matter weap or armor. The proc system brings a new era and improvement to the game. Play style too is changed in all classes as they would learn how to timing proc and changing hotbars fast enough. The hotbar system released also is a great support to a new game play style.

[Luckycharmx]

It is so true. Expansion without economy collapsed. Look at the auction price now, i already see economy collapsed, and the wealth dropped for those paid high for secondary weapon (aegis, gun, bow).
If the proc stacking is the problem, why don’t we limit the number of weapons stack. Like 2 weap or 3 weap or only 3 procs stack in the same character no matter weap or armor. The proc system brings a new era and improvement to the game. Play style too is changed in all classes as they would learn how to timing proc and changing hotbars fast enough. The hotbar system released also is a great support to a new game play style.

They wont. Whatever the rogues playing style needs to be the same with all class. Since cinco is a rogue guy anyway


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[julysch]

I mean lets be open for some new ideas try it out together maybe we will find a great new gameplay what we never expected anymore