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    Default the reason why it is the best expansion

    I have never seen an update so beautiful, so perfect, so beautiful x2... The maps are so difficult that it gives us a lot of time to be at home talking with colleagues, lazing in the exclusive 2020 chair, having a beer with my chef "elMotas "live life outside sitting" corduroy "in the garden and the best .. playing my instruments that in case you were little YAAAAA FIX IT FOR GOD I CANNOT PLAY ANYTHING ON THE NEW MAP IS VERY DIFFICULT

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    Try to play it or even maps from previous expansion as a warrior in currently state, experience is way different than "perfect".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Perq View Post
    Try to play it or even maps from previous expansion as a warrior in currently state, experience is way different than "perfect".
    the worst thing is that they gave the creatures and bosses a benefit when they were already very strong

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    Quote Originally Posted by Inozuke View Post
    YAAAAA FIX IT FOR GOD I CANNOT PLAY ANYTHING ON THE NEW MAP IS VERY DIFFICULT
    Try to play this on a warrior. These maps are easy as hell for rog and mage, I am currently in the editing process of showing a rog vs war speed run in map 3 of the new 81 maps. Here is a teaser, war takes 1 hour 32 mins to solo 1700 str and rog takes 13~ mins to solo 1400 dex.

    I will never see the day a warrior is able to solo this boss.
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    While so many ppl made threads about expansion, marked that something definitelly went wrong with balance and some fix is needed u do this thread and calling us criers and drama makers. Why? There is no point of u doing this thread. You dont see the problem, because your class didnt get affected. I saw many op warriors who just quitted, or who moved to other class, some also just staying in the city and dont want to lvl up cause our class is useless. While stacking procs got removed warrior lost not only damage, but also everything needed to be tank. We dont want to nerf your class, we want to get the axe+aegis stack at least or something which will make us able to enjoy new content same as other classes.
    And if u will tell me something that rogues were weak at 76 while they were on every hydra, orrick lb and some could do around 40 solo wave on evg then i wont treat u serious

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    Quote Originally Posted by Encryptions View Post
    Try to play this on a warrior. These maps are easy as hell for rog and mage, I am currently in the editing process of showing a rog vs war speed run in map 3 of the new 81 maps. Here is a teaser, war takes 1 hour 32 mins to solo 1700 str and rog takes 13~ mins to solo 1400 dex.

    I will never see the day a warrior is able to solo this boss.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4NxboShuPUM
    Why don't you better do a comparison of what a rogue did in the war 76 comparison at that time? Stop crying seriously, kid. The warriors killed everything in 3 seconds. The rogue didn't do that when the maximum was level 76 (rule out your case, you have a lot of gold to equip, don't mention yourself as an "example").
    I can't believe you're stupid enough to waste 2 hours trying it knowing that the game is for team play.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Inozuke View Post
    Why don't you better do a comparison of what a rogue did in the war 76 comparison at that time? Stop crying seriously, kid. The warriors killed everything in 3 seconds. The rogue didn't do that when the maximum was level 76 (rule out your case, you have a lot of gold to equip, don't mention yourself as an "example").
    I can't believe you're stupid enough to waste 2 hours trying it knowing that the game is for team play.
    Oh back with the insults I see. You are the one complaining about the maps being too hard when I am using a 1400 dex rog to easily solo them. Rogs were nuking mobs before 81 expan, you just had to know how to play the class correctly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Inozuke View Post
    Why don't you better do a comparison of what a rogue did in the war 76 comparison at that time? Stop crying seriously, kid. The warriors killed everything in 3 seconds. The rogue didn't do that when the maximum was level 76 (rule out your case, you have a lot of gold to equip, don't mention yourself as an "example").
    I can't believe you're stupid enough to waste 2 hours trying it knowing that the game is for team play.
    the funny part is that with just one sentence any war can contradict you and prove that you don't even know what you're talking about, lets go:

    If rogues were really bad, why was it necessary to nerf the warrior class instead of boosting the rogue class to make rogues a good class again?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Formature View Post
    the funny part is that with just one sentence any war can contradict you and prove that you don't even know what you're talking about, lets go:

    If rogues were really bad, why was it necessary to nerf the warrior class instead of boosting the rogue class to make rogues a good class again?

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    DPS would still be better even if proc stacking existed. You guys need to start thinking lol instead of mindlessly blaming proc stacking nerfs.

    The new maps are boss-only maps similar to infested and hydra. Warriors aren't needed there. Please THINK.

    Unless warriors can out-dps bd rogs and mages, they won't be needed in those maps proc stacking or not. THINK

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    Quote Originally Posted by umarrahim View Post
    DPS would still be better even if proc stacking existed. You guys need to start thinking lol instead of mindlessly blaming proc stacking nerfs.

    The new maps are boss-only maps similar to infested and hydra. Warriors aren't needed there. Please THINK.

    Unless warriors can out-dps bd rogs and mages, they won't be needed in those maps proc stacking or not. THINK

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    Can't you understand that if there had never been a proc stack there wouldn't be anyone complaining? the fact is that sts knowing everything (it wasn't a bug and never was) added this to the game and simply removed it , no one is blaming proc stacking , anyway rogue and mage have 2 proc 76 weapons that match unlike war and this is solely sts' fault because she's the one who made this whole mess.

    I think the ones who need to THINK are you Rogues who asked to nerf classes in PVE, this is already self-explanatory...

    obviously the new portals are the same as hydra/orrick , obviously that Rogues and mages will dominate and we know very well that proc stacking will not change that but it will make the warriors serve as something no longer even as a tank are being useful because of these instakills of the bosses.
    Knowing that the new maps are for rogues/mages, evg was for war and the rogues insisted on nerfing the war when in reality it was the mages who took the rogues slots (I think the ones who should have thought back there were you), you are telling me to think of something but when it was the Rogues that should think you didn't think.

    we know very well that even with proc stacking mages and rogues will continue to be the main damage classes, we warriors could act like retards and ask for nerf rogues like the rogues did with warriors, but we know that nerfing a class in PVE is something totally nonsense.
    we just want the warriors to have enough damage to be at least useful vs the bosses.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Formature View Post
    Can't you understand that if there had never been a proc stack there wouldn't be anyone complaining? the fact is that sts knowing everything (it wasn't a bug and never was) added this to the game and simply removed it , no one is blaming proc stacking , anyway rogue and mage have 2 proc 76 weapons that match unlike war and this is solely sts' fault because she's the one who made this whole mess.

    I think the ones who need to THINK are you Rogues who asked to nerf classes in PVE, this is already self-explanatory...

    obviously the new portals are the same as hydra/orrick , obviously that rogues and mages will dominate and we know very well that proc stacking will not change that but it will make the warriors do something since they are not serving as a "tank" of those instakill.
    Knowing that the new maps are for rogues/mages, evg was for war and the rogues insisted on nerfing the war when in reality it was the mages who took the rogues slots (I think the ones who should have thought back there were you), you are telling me to think of something but when it was the Rogues that should think you didn't think.

    we know very well that even with proc stacking mages and rogues will continue to be the main damage classes, we warriors could act like retards and ask for nerf rogues like the rogues did with warriors, but we know that nerfing a class in PVE is something totally nonsense.
    we just want the warriors to have enough damage to be at least useful vs the bosses.


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    If warriors are doing enough dmg to replace a dps class then they aren't really warriors, lol.

    The maps are designed to make dps dominate. Even if warriors get proc stacking, it won't fix this issue.

    There are only 2 ways to fix the situation without the addition of proc stacking.

    1) Make EVG drop more gold, it was the only map where warriors are necessary. It was designed to make warriors useful to tank the mobs. I played EVG yesterday to try it out, and warriors are clearing waves just fine with 1 weapon proc; proc stack isn't needed. But due to the nerf to EVG, ppl aren't running it anymore.

    2) As I said on another post, cause these new boss-only maps to instakill all party members unless they are 100%invulnerable by Horn of Renew. This way, all parties will have to include 1 warrior.

    Nerfing Rogs or Buffing warrs won't fix anything. Rogs, as a class, is designed to kill bosses, and if at any point warriors are dealing equivalent damage to boss as rogues, then that's imbalanced.

    Again, the problem is the design of the new maps that's causing warriors to be useless, not the removal of proc stacking, and with this I rest my case

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    Quote Originally Posted by Perq View Post
    While so many ppl made threads about expansion, marked that something definitelly went wrong with balance and some fix is needed u do this thread and calling us criers and drama makers. Why? There is no point of u doing this thread. You dont see the problem, because your class didnt get affected. I saw many op warriors who just quitted, or who moved to other class, some also just staying in the city and dont want to lvl up cause our class is useless. While stacking procs got removed warrior lost not only damage, but also everything needed to be tank. We dont want to nerf your class, we want to get the axe+aegis stack at least or something which will make us able to enjoy new content same as other classes.
    And if u will tell me something that rogues were weak at 76 while they were on every hydra, orrick lb and some could do around 40 solo wave on evg then i wont treat u serious
    all classes were affected I died like 600 times since it started, I don't complain about dying or betting buff, that's fine by me "
    on the subject of warriors ... if your case is sad they do not let you use 2 weapons such as rogue and magicians
    that should solve it
    But for now the problem is that even. not even a class no longer works, it takes up to 4 minutes in the boss with more colleagues
    I complain about the current update, the buff for creatures and bosses is very strong

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    Quote Originally Posted by Inozuke View Post
    all classes were affected I died like 600 times since it started, I don't complain about dying or betting buff, that's fine by me "
    on the subject of warriors ... if your case is sad they do not let you use 2 weapons such as rogue and magicians
    that should solve it
    But for now the problem is that even. not even a class no longer works, it takes up to 4 minutes in the boss with more colleagues
    I complain about the current update, the buff for creatures and bosses is very strong
    You're overreacting smh. I ran multiple dungeons with barely geared people (taint set, old arcanes) and it's not as bad as you make it seem. My awakes are ms, I run with 1.3k dex stat and is still able to finish it smoothly.

    However, the update is kind of unnecessary imho, it just made the new content a bit harder for everybody. Idk if this was an attempt to include warriors in parties, but if that's the case, they gotta do more than just increasing mobs and boss HP. Warriors have nothing else to offer but horn of renew atm.
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    I think dev did that to make all class join and unite together but always there is a fight between rogue user and warior user, if the balance is true need to be equal all, all class has a rage ulti just like war but our ulti is uncontrollable, we dont need ultimate aim in 1 shot you cannot control and shoot it on mobs insted on boss, our dagger has only 70-80% proc chance but axe is 100% chance, and for warior need to increase the armor cap so they cannot die easly on new map. But it is better to unite the class to make all happy and enjoy the challenges while we run.

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    And one more thing a rogue must really be strong crit damage and dps of the because it is easy to die so they must kill the opponent quickly and fast too, the warior is for survival in case the rogue and mage dies the opponent boss will not reset,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aldous View Post
    You're overreacting smh. I ran multiple dungeons with barely geared people (taint set, old arcanes) and it's not as bad as you make it seem. My awakes are ms, I run with 1.3k dex stat and is still able to finish it smoothly.

    However, the update is kind of unnecessary imho, it just made the new content a bit harder for everybody. Idk if this was an attempt to include warriors in parties, but if that's the case, they gotta do more than just increasing mobs and boss HP. Warriors have nothing else to offer but horn of renew atm.
    I played so much that I almost touched 8k points, it is normal that I die a lot (?)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Inozuke View Post
    I played so much that I almost touched 8k points, it is normal that I die a lot (?)
    Try being cautious and not just rambo all the time? As a rogue you have way too many options, "kiting" for one works best.
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