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    Quote Originally Posted by arcanefid View Post
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    We should not be forced to use a skill to survive some attack.
    You wanna do the same dps as Rogues/Mages to be useful in the new goldloot maps? Get real bro, a tank shouldn't be doing damage to be useful, but rather provide utility.

    If horn let's all party member survive, then it will become essential for all parties to have a warrior, hence making warriors useful.

    Right now 4dps parties clear wayy faster and warriors are useless cuz of it. If this gets implemented, warriors will be needed to survive the instakill, that's all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by umarrahim View Post
    You wanna do the same dps as Rogues/Mages to be useful in the new goldloot maps? Get real bro, a tank shouldn't be doing damage to be useful, but rather provide utility.

    If horn let's all party member survive, then it will become essential for all parties to have a warrior, hence making warriors useful.

    Right now 4dps parties clear wayy faster and warriors are useless cuz of it. If this gets implemented, warriors will be needed to survive the instakill, that's all.

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    No, I don’t want to do the same DPS as Rogues/Mages in the map, but I don’t want the whole party to be dependent on a single skill from one party member. Reasons:

    * You can’t find a warrior to run with 100% of the time.
    * A simple ping spike will get the whole party killed.
    * Warrior gets all the blame for mistiming the skill.
    * A skill is a choice, that’s why we can use 4 out of 8.

    Just because I disagree with your idea, doesn’t mean I want Warrior to be the DPS.

    There might be other ways to make warrior useful.
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    Quote Originally Posted by arcanefid View Post
    No, I don’t want to do the same DPS as Rogues/Mages in the map, but I don’t want the whole party to be dependent on a single skill from one party member. Reasons:

    * You can’t find a warrior to run with 100% of the time.
    * A simple ping spike will get the whole party killed.
    * Warrior gets all the blame for mistiming the skill.
    * A skill is a choice, that’s why we can use 4 out of 8.

    Just because I disagree with your idea, doesn’t mean I want Warrior to be the DPS.

    There might be other ways to make warrior useful.
    Other than tanking the boss and aggroing it, or causing some sort of massive debuff, this is the only way I can think to make warrior usefull.

    1) Bad pings would also kill warriors in EVG, so it isn't a good counter-reasoning

    2) Warriors would need to learn to time properly.

    3) Warriors were always needed in EVG, so keep looking till u find one like how people used to do it.

    4) Just like how Aimedshot is needed on Rog, heal would be needed on warrior ^^

    It's better than them being completely useless i feel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by umarrahim View Post
    Other than tanking the boss and aggroing it, or causing some sort of massive debuff, this is the only way I can think to make warrior usefull.

    1) Bad pings would also kill warriors in EVG, so it isn't a good counter-reasoning

    2) Warriors would need to learn to time properly.

    3) Just like how Aimedshot is needed on Rog, heal would be needed on warrior ^^

    It's better than them being completely useless i feel.

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    Reaching wave 80+ is optional, and even if you die, the rest of the party survives.

    Can learn to time, but humans make mistakes, a simple mistiming of a skill shouldn’t be a death penalty for 3 other people.

    Last time I checked you can play Rogue without Aimed Shot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by arcanefid View Post
    Reaching wave 80+ is optional, and even if you die, the rest of the party survives.

    Can learn to time, but humans make mistakes, a simple mistiming of a skill shouldn’t be a death penalty for 3 other people.

    Last time I checked you can play Rogue without Aimed Shot.
    If you are hoping for lvl 81 arcane weapons to fix the situation, I guess that's fine.

    But if those weapons just provide buffs, then warriors will still be less impactfull than other classes on new maps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by umarrahim View Post
    If you are hoping for lvl 81 arcane weapons to fix the situation, I guess that's fine.

    But if those weapons just provide buffs, then warriors will still be less impactfull than other classes on new maps.

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    I think waiting for the Arcane weapons is not the ideal choice, since it might take too long for them to come, and Rogues/Mages would be too far ahead until then. In this thread I’m simply pointing out why I disagree with your suggestion. I don’t make decisions, Cinco might like it and do what you said.

    We don’t know what the Arcane weapons will be, so we can only guess.
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