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    Default how does the new skill work?

    Is it just an extra 5% or is each 100% extra 5%?
    I heard various rumors but I don't see any guidance on this in the forum

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    5% and it's a waste of points

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    If you have 700% gl it is 700%*5% which yeilds you 35% extra
    Quite significant for a passive
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    It just adds 5% to your current gold loot, just as a 100gl weapon gives you only 100% more, this gives you 5%

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    Quote Originally Posted by Irg View Post
    If you have 700% gl it is 700%*5% which yeilds you 35% extra
    Quite significant for a passive
    Is there any comment from an administrator where I confirm that?

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    If every 100% has a 5% thats good but if only extra 5% only its a waste of points hope dev answer this please?

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    Quote Originally Posted by snakeeyes View Post
    If every 100% has a 5% thats good but if only extra 5% only its a waste of points hope dev answer this please?
    can you tag an admin? I don't use this much so I don't know its possibilities

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    The description says it is affected by additional gold loot % modifiers. So the people telling you its +5% per 100%Gold Loot are correct.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Irg View Post
    If you have 700% gl it is 700%*5% which yeilds you 35% extra
    Quite significant for a passive
    Did you count in the base 100% gold loot?
    (Not considering extra buffs and pet happiness bonus) 35% would be if you had 600% gl on gear

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    (0.05(100 + gold loot % of pets+gear+aa)= passive bonus.
    Say I have 450gl ava set with a 200gl wep and 30% pet with an aa of 25%. I would do (0.05(100+ 450 + 200 + 30 + 25).
    0.05 * 805 = 40.25 bonus gold loot. 40.25 + 805 = 845.25 total gold loot.
    The 100 is the base gold loot you have. You have a base of 100% on everything, if you do not calculate that base then your calculations will be incorrect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Proud_ View Post
    Did you count in the base 100% gold loot?
    (Not considering extra buffs and pet happiness bonus) 35% would be if you had 600% gl on gear

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    Yea accumulated sum, so in this case your gear adds a total of 600
    + Your base of 100 = 700, and add 5% on top of that

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    Quote Originally Posted by Encryptions View Post
    (0.05(100 + gold loot % of pets+gear+aa)= passive bonus.
    Say I have 450gl ava set with a 200gl wep and 30% pet with an aa of 25%. I would do (0.05(100+ 450 + 200 + 30 + 25).
    0.05 * 805 = 40.25 bonus gold loot. 40.25 + 805 = 845.25 total gold loot.
    The 100 is the base gold loot you have. You have a base of 100% on everything, if you do not calculate that base then your calculations will be incorrect.

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    This is wrong, no one adds the base to its final gl. Maybe you got a bit tangled up.

    Quote Originally Posted by Irg View Post
    Yea accumulated sum, so in this case your gear adds a total of 600
    + Your base of 100 = 700, and add 5% on top of that
    This guy has the correct result.

    For less confusion I calculate it like this:

    5 (%) + {(gl (pet, gear, etc.) * 5) ÷ 100} + gl (pet, gear, etc.) = final gl

    Assuming your gl in items is 500:

    5 + {(500 * 5) ÷ 100} + 500 = 530gl

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    Nice and good to know and thanks all for the calculation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nocturnus View Post
    This is wrong, no one adds the base to its final gl. Maybe you got a bit tangled up.

    Quote Originally Posted by Irg View Post
    Yea accumulated sum, so in this case your gear adds a total of 600
    + Your base of 100 = 700, and add 5% on top of that



    This guy has the correct result.

    For less confusion I calculate it like this:

    5 (%) + {(gl (pet, gear, etc.) * 5) ÷ 100} + gl (pet, gear, etc.) = final gl

    Assuming your gl in items is 500:

    5 + {(500 * 5) ÷ 100} + 500 = 530gl
    ??? You are literally adding the base in your formula. 5 times 6 is 30. Gear 500% base 100% = 600% times 0.05 = 30.
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    Start at 100% and add up all your gl. If you have zero % bonus gold loot, you still get 5% extra because you start at 100%of monsters gold drops.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Encryptions View Post
    ??? You are literally adding the base in your formula. 5 times 6 is 30. Gear 500% base 100% = 600% times 0.05 = 30.
    You don't need to know that. has 1 player without gl in any item or pet, active skill will have 5% gl.
    A subject with 100gl. it's going to have 105gl plus 5,110gl.
    Although, your formula is correct, the final result is incorrect, nobody adds the base to its result because everyone has 100gl, and everyone who wants will have that 5% gl, I would not add those 5 to my formula either, but it is correct to say it like that. Your base will always be 105 if the skill is active.

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    why is gl consider a skill? It is relatively irrelevant in the skill tab .. i also feel it is a waste of points

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    Quote Originally Posted by will0 View Post
    why is gl consider a skill? It is relatively irrelevant in the skill tab .. i also feel it is a waste of points
    It's a passive lol, not skill that u put in skill tab

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    "Maxed out Passive Description = Permanently increases your gold loot by 5%, this value is affected by additional gold loot modifiers"

    Some preliminary knowledge
    Base of 100% = multiplier of 1.00
    (anything multiply by 1, you get no changes. So if you have 100% base gold loot, and a mob drop 1k gold, you get that 1k gold)

    Total % Gold loot = Base%+ Additional% from gears or pets.
    (For e.g. with a 100% gold loot weapon, this means 100% base + 100% weapon = 200% total gold loot. Using the same 1k drop example, you will get 2k gold instead of 1k gold.)

    For adding additional %:
    +0% = 100% + 0% = multiplier of 1.00
    +5% = 100% + 5% = multiplier of 1.05

    So since the description says the "+5% value" is affected by additional gold loot modifiers:

    1. With 0% GL from gears/pets:
    No passive = +0% to base 100% (Total Gold loot = 100% + 0% = 100% = multiplier of 1.00)
    With passive = +5% to base 100%(Total Gold loot = 100% + 5%passive = 105% or multiplier of 1.05)

    2. With 500% GL from gears/pets :
    No passive = +0% +600% (Total Gold loot = base 100% + 500% = 600% or multiplier of 6.00)
    With passive = +600%*5% + 600% (Total Gold loot = base 100% +500% + 30%passive = 630% or multiplier of 6.30)
    (Notice here, you can't just +5% passive directly because just as the skill description writes, the passive value is affected by additional % GL, in total %(600%), so it is actually +30% passive)

    Basically the formula is:
    Total Gold loot % = Base 100% + (Gears/Pets %) + Passive 5%*(Base% + Gears/Pets%)
    **You only add +5% passive directly when you have no other additional % gold loot from gears/pets

    So if you have
    +0%GL from gears/pets = 100% + 0% + 5%
    = 105% GL (multiplier of 1.05)

    +100% GL from gears/pets = 100% + 100% + 10%
    = 210% GL (multiplier of 2.10)
    +200% GL from gears/pets = 100% + 200% + 15%
    = 315% GL (multiplier of 3.15)
    +300% GL from gears/pets = 100% + 300% + 20%
    = 420% GL (multiplier of 4.20)
    +400% GL from gears/pets = 100% + 400% + 25%
    = 525% GL (multiplier of 5.25)
    +500% GL from gears/pets = 100% + 500% + 30%
    = 630% GL (multiplier of 6.30)

    +600% GL from gears/pets = 100% + 600% + 35%
    = 735% GL (multiplier of 7.35)

    +700% GL from gears/pets = 100% + 700% + 40%
    = 840% GL (multiplier of 8.40)

    +800% GL from gears/pets = 100% + 800% + 45%
    = 945% GL (multiplier of 9.45)

    +900% GL from gears/pets = 100% + 900% + 50%
    = 1050% GL (multiplier of 10.50)
    +1000% GL from gears/pets = 100% + 1000% + 55%
    = 1155% GL (multiplier of 11.55)

    A frequent confusion comes from how we normally speak of gold loot:
    "Bro how much gold loot you have?"
    "500% gold loot bro"
    While in fact they mean +500% gold loot OR 600% total gold loot

    Quote Originally Posted by Switchback View Post
    The description says it is affected by additional gold loot % modifiers. So the people telling you its +5% per 100%Gold Loot are correct.
    This guy above gave a good summary of the calculation I detailed.

    Basically,
    +5% per 100% Total GL,
    +10% per 200%Total GL,
    +15% per 300%Total GL,
    +20% per 400% Total GL
    .....
    Last edited by Analytical; 10-08-2021 at 01:42 AM. Reason: Bolded text, quoting

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    Quote Originally Posted by Analytical View Post
    +0%GL from gears/pets = 100% + 0% + 5%
    = 105% GL (multiplier of 1.05)

    +100% GL from gears/pets = 100% + 100% + 5%
    = 205% GL (multiplier of 2.05)
    +200% GL from gears/pets = 100% + 200% + 10%
    = 310% GL (multiplier of 3.10)
    Probably if you read these 3 lines one more time, you will find out what your mistake was.

    Knowing that your base is always 100%:

    If you have 0gl you add 5% to your gl final
    If you have 100gl you add 10%
    If you have 200gl you add 15%
    If you have 300gl you add 20%
    If you have 400gl you add 25%
    If you have 500gl you add 30%
    If you have 600gl you add 35%
    If you have 700gl you add 40%
    If you have 800gl you add 45%
    If you have 900gl you add 50%
    If you have 1000gl you add 55%

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