Anybody feeling OP? Bears are!

[Matutd]

Who else likes Parth's dramatic thread names?

I agree with rob, DL pvp is much better. Plus without the whole "go" procedure, you can creep up on people, get the first attack etc. whereas pl is who has the better combo, that's it. Playstyle hardly varies in pl when every fight is run toward each other, mash skills, maybe kite a little. DL gives pvp more variety. And not only do you need a good combo in DL, you also need to know which skills to charge and when to charge them. Then there's gear. There isn't one endgame set, there's lots of different endgame items which allow for more customisation. Overall I have to agree that DL pvp is much more fun.

[Zeus]

Who else likes Parth's dramatic thread names?

I agree with rob, DL pvp is much better. Plus without the whole "go" procedure, you can creep up on people, get the first attack etc. whereas pl is who has the better combo, that's it. Playstyle hardly varies in pl when every fight is run toward each other, mash skills, maybe kite a little. DL gives pvp more variety. And not only do you need a good combo in DL, you also need to know which skills to charge and when to charge them. Then there's gear. There isn't one endgame set, there's lots of different endgame items which allow for more customisation. Overall I have to agree that DL pvp is much more fun.

People are more likely to read a dramatic thread vs a monotone one with no emotion.

That's why I do it, lol. Both of them deliver the facts, just one gets more input than the other.

[Moogerfooger]

People are more likely to read a dramatic thread vs a monotone one with no emotion.

That's why I do it, lol. Both of them deliver the facts, just one gets more input than the other.

So you're saying it's okay to cry wolf/be dramatic in order to get more people to read a thread?

/forumqualitydown

[Phoenixking]

So you're saying it's okay to cry wolf/be dramatic in order to get more people to read a thread?

/forumqualitydown

Listen to a news reporter or those shows that talk about famous people. Same thing in real life

I hope this update doesn't nerf intbirds... That's what I'm worried about the most

[Buffedbear Pl]

What if the gear goes back to having their own respective stats instead of being all balanced out like they are now?

Example:

STR stuff = armor, h/s
DEX stuff = hit, crit, dodge
INT stuff = m/s and stuff

You know that stuff.

[KingFu]

Listen to a news reporter or those shows that talk about famous people. Same thing in real life

I hope this update doesn't nerf intbirds... That's what I'm worried about the most

There's nothing to nerf, lol. I've been dissapointed with the bears stats since I saw crafted orlok set. 60 or so crit, 75 Ish dodge, 250 (?) some armor, and not to mention the proc from the sword. Bear vs Bear has become 95% luck. Who will dodge what, who will crit this, who gets sword proc off [first]. I really hope there's a major stat rebalance like there was in AO2, after that, literally every spec stood a fighting chance, and skill overcame gear/spec. Int bears could beat a pally, dex Mage could destroy a war bird, it didn't really matter. Now, it's all cookie cutter builds and spec. Everyone is almost identicle. Heck, bird vs bird has literally become 2-3 arrows, and then done, it shouldn't be that way.

[Matutd]

People are more likely to read a dramatic thread vs a monotone one with no emotion.

That's why I do it, lol. Both of them deliver the facts, just one gets more input than the other.

I wasn't saying they were stupid, and I know exactly why you do it. I just think they're funny xP

[Jugernugetx]

Whats new about the title? They were always overpowered...

[NotYoCookiez]

Blah. I'll still be the king of pvp with my wittle birdie :3

[Jcyee]

Lol bears cud have uber dodge and armor, birds with uber dps and crit, mages with uber crit. Everything is gonna b uber high lol

[Mothwing]

Wait, I thought bears were already OP. Why do they get all the st00f?!

[Kixxler]

This will change everything in low level PvP. Excited to see how people will change their builds!
EDIT: Never mind, just read the announcement thread. I really am clueless.

[crestmage]

Wow lol this is gonna be fun for mages. I'm sooo looking forward to new expansion!

[Elyseon]

So saying taunt gets an extra dodge with rank 7
And evade gets 2 more
That will bring the dodge buff for bears to +32 dodge

Birds would still continue the jump by 5 presumably to +35

Although what's to say the dodge from gear is too increase from fang to humania, the royal sewer/fury mix had more dodge than glyph

And really I don't think mages have much to worry about as they keep narrowing the armour gap between tanks and nukes, who know maybe mages will have more armour than tanks now

Although I agree pvp is becoming a bit overpowered, I think if the birds evade instead of increasing dodge increased the small armour buff birds have that would help, because really a bird is stranded out there with very little solid support, a crit and hit buff, the hit which is already far over 100% and the crit still not giving a ridiculous promise like the mages 60% buff, then to defend the bird gets 30 dodge. So basically their survival vs is luck, a bear can easily beckon and stomp them, and kill, and a Mage can go as much as drain+auto to kill them

[Otukura]

What if the armor doubled and there was no dodge?

Agh, triple post, but w/e.

Just to add on.

Armor means nothing to a nuke mage.

During sewers, bears had lower dodge, and they had really high armor as well.
Nuke mages like me didn't even have to heal much. As an Enchanted Staff Mage, a simple full-nuke combo as a bear would Beckon and drag me would end up taking most, if not all his HP.

Think of it this way.
Armor= a percentage of damage reduction, at around 50-60% for bears.
Dodge= 100% damage reduction.

At a lower extreme scale, armor works better than dodge.
At a higher extreme scale, dodge works exponentially better than armor.

At 800 armor, you cant deny that youd only take 5-6 hp per attack.

[Elyseon]

How about lighten up the dodge gear and add some health? Get bears over 1000 health finally