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    Default We want a plat sale! nah nah nah nah

    Please STS can we have a plat sale sometime after the release of Humania? post thoughts below

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    My thought is that's exactly the same as this thread -.-
    http://www.spacetimestudios.com/showthread.php?t=60462


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    Why on earth would they do that..?

    It doesn't require someone to be a mastermind to realize that campaign releases are the "go seasons" for platinum purchases (plat = elixirs) and businesswise it would be ridiculously bad call to lower prices at the moment when people consume platinum no matter if it is on sale or not.

    STS doesn't do charity work for us, they do have to get a living out of their games.

    All Legends' games are F2P, u should be happy for it already.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dudetus View Post
    Why on earth would they do that..?

    It doesn't require someone to be a mastermind to realize that campaign releases are the "go seasons" for platinum purchases (plat = elixirs) and businesswise it would be ridiculously bad call to lower prices at the moment when people consume platinum no matter if it is on sale or not.

    STS doesn't do charity work for us, they do have to get a living out of their games.

    All Legends' games are F2P, u should be happy for it already.
    i didnt say the day after -_-

    just a few months sometime before NEXT cap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rauekat View Post
    i didnt say the day after -_-

    just a few months sometime before NEXT cap.
    Thats a given lol. I'm just going to sit this one out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rauekat View Post
    i didnt say the day after -_-

    just a few months sometime before NEXT cap.

    I doubt that.

    Plat sales came to PL only because there was a huge lack of players and that plat sale (alongside with double weekends) were sort of "promo" to keep players interested in farming and playing.

    Plat sales come if Humania is the latest campaign for >6 months.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dudetus View Post
    I doubt that.

    Plat sales came to PL only because there was a huge lack of players and that plat sale (alongside with double weekends) were sort of "promo" to keep players interested in farming and playing.

    Plat sales come if Humania is the latest campaign for >6 months.
    If this is true we should just act non-interested in the game so they give us a platinum sale!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swimmingstar View Post
    If this is true we should just act non-interested in the game so they give us a platinum sale!
    ikr lol :P

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    Quote Originally Posted by dudetus View Post
    Why on earth would they do that..?

    It doesn't require someone to be a mastermind to realize that campaign releases are the "go seasons" for platinum purchases (plat = elixirs) and businesswise it would be ridiculously bad call to lower prices at the moment when people consume platinum no matter if it is on sale or not.

    STS doesn't do charity work for us, they do have to get a living out of their games.

    All Legends' games are F2P, u should be happy for it already.
    Actually... They would make MORE money because almost everyone will be buying plat WAY more than usual.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paladinslaya View Post
    Actually... They would make MORE money because almost everyone will be buying plat WAY more than usual.
    I give up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paladinslaya View Post
    Actually... They would make MORE money because almost everyone will be buying plat WAY more than usual.
    You sir have completely missed the entire point that dudetus was making.

    To make things easy, lets say 1 plat = $1. Let's say I will purchase 10 plat for 10 dollars even if there wasn't a plat sale.

    Now, if there were a plat sale, making 1 plat $0.50, Maybe I would want to buy more, say 15 plat. The problem is now STS is only making $7.50 on that 15 plat instead of the $10 I would have spent.

    Let's say I am really motivated and buy 20 plat, now they've sold me 20 plat for $10 instead of 10 plat for $10. The issue here is because I have more plat now, it will be longer before I buy more plat in the future, basically cannibalizing their future sales.

    Obviously, you can play around with the numbers, like what kind of discount they would want to provide. Maybe it won't be 50%, but as the percentage discount goes down, there will also be less incentive for me to buy more plat.

    That isn't even the big issue though. The biggest issue is that there is enough demand for plat right now at current prices that any discount they give would have a greater negative impact by lowering the amount of profit they would get from the plat sales that will happen regardless of if there is a plat sale, than the benefit STS would see from additional plat sales.

    The funny thing is, the people who understand this (like dudetus and some other people) already know this, and the people who don't will probably still not understand what I've just typed above.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kiitz View Post
    You sir have completely missed the entire point that dudetus was making.

    To make things easy, lets say 1 plat = $1. Let's say I will purchase 10 plat for 10 dollars even if there wasn't a plat sale.

    Now, if there were a plat sale, making 1 plat $0.50, Maybe I would want to buy more, say 15 plat. The problem is now STS is only making $7.50 on that 15 plat instead of the $10 I would have spent.

    Let's say I am really motivated and buy 20 plat, now they've sold me 20 plat for $10 instead of 10 plat for $10. The issue here is because I have more plat now, it will be longer before I buy more plat in the future, basically cannibalizing their future sales.

    Obviously, you can play around with the numbers, like what kind of discount they would want to provide. Maybe it won't be 50%, but as the percentage discount goes down, there will also be less incentive for me to buy more plat.

    That isn't even the big issue though. The biggest issue is that there is enough demand for plat right now at current prices that any discount they give would have a greater negative impact by lowering the amount of profit they would get from the plat sales that will happen regardless of if there is a plat sale, than the benefit STS would see from additional plat sales.

    The funny thing is, the people who understand this (like dudetus and some other people) already know this, and the people who don't will probably still not understand what I've just typed above.
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    +1 for originality!

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    Actually would make people buy more platinum.

    I mean...
    Plat sale+ new campaign+ new vanities+ new platinum items= tempted to buy more plat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Whirlzap View Post
    Actually would make people buy more platinum.

    I mean...
    Plat sale+ new campaign+ new vanities+ new platinum items= tempted to buy more plat.
    exactly
    doesnt have to be 50% off or something crazy just maybe 10 or 20% off

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    Quote Originally Posted by Whirlzap View Post
    Actually would make people buy more platinum.

    I mean...
    Plat sale+ new campaign+ new vanities+ new platinum items= tempted to buy more plat.
    Quote Originally Posted by Rauekat View Post
    exactly
    doesnt have to be 50% off or something crazy just maybe 10 or 20% off

    Got to run but here's a nice link for ya about a marvelous thing called price elasticity of demand.

    Some basic economics

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    Quote Originally Posted by dudetus View Post
    Got to run but here's a nice link for ya about a marvelous thing called price elasticity of demand.

    Some basic economics
    lol u hate on this thread and not other one anyways u some type of economics specialist? lol

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    they spend months working on a new campaign and get paid by platinum sales. I doubt a platinum sale is in order, or if so, a very marginal sale.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rauekat:680967
    lol u hate on this thread and not other one anyways u some type of economics specialist? lol
    No I am not an econimics specialist, I am an econimics student. Will be a specialist in ~8 years.

    I can translate that long article for ya in words u can comprehend.

    If the discount is not going to make profit, it is useless to make a discount.

    The ones who regularly buy platinum will most likely buy 2k plat pack and that's it. 2k plats is almost enough to lvl 3 toons to elite cap with trashers so there has to be quite a few new platinum consumers.

    So using that equation out of that wikipedia article (the basic equation) if prices r lowered with 20% there should be >20% more consuming than there would be without the big platinum sale.

    As I said, most platinum buying players will buy that single 2k plat pack regardless of the sales and therefore there should be whole lotta new consumers. Which is IMO unrealistic.

    This all is in theory because we cannot rly have the actual platinum buying rates and we cannot procedure those two different scenarios at once.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dudetus View Post
    No I am not an econimics specialist, I am an econimics student. Will be a specialist in ~8 years.

    I can translate that long article for ya in words u can comprehend.

    If the discount is not going to make profit, it is useless to make a discount.

    The ones who regularly buy platinum will most likely buy 2k plat pack and that's it. 2k plats is almost enough to lvl 3 toons to elite cap with trashers so there has to be quite a few new platinum consumers.

    So using that equation out of that wikipedia article (the basic equation) if prices r lowered with 20% there should be >20% more consuming than there would be without the big platinum sale.

    As I said, most platinum buying players will buy that single 2k plat pack regardless of the sales and therefore there should be whole lotta new consumers. Which is IMO unrealistic.

    This all is in theory because we cannot rly have the actual platinum buying rates and we cannot procedure those two different scenarios at once.
    ya i understand that most plat buyers dont care will buy anyway. but like me i usually only buy during plat sales and i bet other ppl do also who are short on cash.

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