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    Default HB between arc Love and arc samson

    Hi can some explain me well whats better? Some pol told me about arc love just for bosses harders or pvp minewhile arc sams for ms and run maps but i wanna sell arc samsom (70m btw) but in looking for some help if better keep it or change it for arc love, ty

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    Pve rogue arc samson or yinshe more % damage + ms, no need for crit and mana ignore of arc love on rogue pve.

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    Arc love or arc precious is nice for replacement

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    Quote Originally Posted by plqnes View Post
    Hi can some explain me well whats better? Some pol told me about arc love just for bosses harders or pvp minewhile arc sams for ms and run maps but i wanna sell arc samsom (70m btw) but in looking for some help if better keep it or change it for arc love, ty

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    arc samson is trash pet, sell it and get arc sentinel (if you really need some %MS); your total damage output will be higher with arc sentinel, some new players (which are totally bad at maths and game mechanics) can say to get yinshe, yinshe is only pet for getting some LB where you need 1hit bosses (orrick etc), in regular pve it will suck aswell (15%haste >>> 25%boss dmg >>> 5% stacking dmg + 30main stat). Best pve pets for rogue are arc sentinel (if you need %MS) or heroic garlic (when you don't need %MS and need only highest damage output during some time, not for 1hits)

    arc love is best defensive HB for rogue (must have for pvp), for pve it isnt much different from arc precious, just get arc precious if need some defence
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    Quote Originally Posted by whatwasit View Post
    arc samson is trash pet, sell it and get arc sentinel (if you really need some %MS); your total damage output will be higher with arc sentinel, some new players (which are totally bad at maths and game mechanics) can say to get yinshe, yinshe is only pet for getting some LB where you need 1hit bosses (orrick etc), in regular pve it will suck aswell (15%haste >>> 25%boss dmg >>> 5% stacking dmg + 30main stat). Best pve pets for rogue are arc sentinel (if you need %MS) or heroic garlic (when you don't need %MS and need only highest damage output during some time, not for 1hits)

    arc love is best defensive HB for rogue (must have for pvp), for pve it isnt much different from arc precious, just get arc precious if need some defence
    Pretty sure Haste isn't very good on rogue is a general consensus.

    Unlike warrior and mages, Haste doesn't affect Rogue's bow attackspeed timer. Also, Rogue's have low enough CD on their abilities that you can basically spam your combos without much delay between each combo.

    Aimee Shot > Nox Bolt > Shadow Piercer. Repeat this over and over, there isn't much delay in between the next set of combo even with 0 haste.

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    Id recommend Arc love pve now for rog. Dmg reduce(stacking) +dmg(stacking) w/pisces

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ploid View Post
    Pretty sure Haste isn't very good on rogue is a general consensus.

    Unlike warrior and mages, Haste doesn't affect Rogue's bow attackspeed timer. Also, Rogue's have low enough CD on their abilities that you can basically spam your combos without much delay between each combo.

    Aimee Shot > Nox Bolt > Shadow Piercer. Repeat this over and over, there isn't much delay in between the next set of combo even with 0 haste.

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    Imagine clown who doesn't even know how properly play his own class start to talk about other classes

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    Quote Originally Posted by whatwasit View Post
    Imagine clown who doesn't even know how properly play his own class start to talk about other classes
    Did ur mother drop u on ur head when u were a baby? Why are u being toxic for no reason?

    U could instead provide with reasons why haste is strong on Rogue lol. Maybe then people will start to like you more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ploid View Post
    Did ur mother drop u on ur head when u were a baby? Why are u being toxic for no reason?

    U could instead provide with reasons why haste is strong on Rogue lol. Maybe then people will start to like you more.

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    I aggree with Ploid, just compute the 15%haste reduce cd on 2sec aim shoot its useless compare to 25sec skill of war, haste for war need most, and encrypt explained it easy to learn, and for the other @whatwasit why you always hate other player and dev with your toxic word? Did your mother teach you how to respect? @Devs i think you need to add ban here if the chat is full 100%toxic.

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    25% damage red is huge, and even with that...u cant survive in esf, if u use 25% damage red to stack..u might survive...but if 5 or more slimes shoots u...ur dead

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    Rogue Best pet i think for esf is arc samson hb with meph aa for mobs, boss is yinshe with hero fatimas/arc were/mephs aa, you can solo esf too just when you have myth set bow/dag and profit set.

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    Haste is important with rog class in pve. More than just one skill for cd. Hero garlic or arc sent for rog hb. But again I mainly duo or solo the elites 90% of the time.
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    you're right bro, don't listen to the others. "haste" only affects the Razor Shield
    Razor Shield (%15 haste = 20 sec --> 17 sec)
    2 sec CD skillls ( %15 haste = 2 sec --> 1.7 sec )
    total combo without haste ( 2+2+2 sec = 6 sec )
    with %15 haste ( 1,7+1,7+1,7 = 5,1 sec )
    anyway +1 sec delay for ping

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    Haste on rogue is good, but not better than other things you can have as replacement. Like (PvE) haste vs ed/bd I'd take ed/bd. (PvP) Haste vs dmg reduc I'd take dmg reduction.

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