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    Quote Originally Posted by Analytical View Post
    Why call it an achievement if you can do it all by yourself? You guys feel proud really killing yourself 10,000 times?

    Nowhere did I claim or ask you guys to force others to receive your help. There are already many laying in towns asking us to help them through a difficult map or asking for gold. There's no need to force anyone. I'm not an advocate for the forcing aspect. All I'm saying is to make these aps more useful not useless if they need to exist.

    In other words, I'm not here to enforce the culture of helping, but to reward those who actually help others with aps points. This way not only the leaderboard would be a little more interesting instead of all same aps points (as not everyone get to fulfil the helping 10, 50, 100 people aps, so that's the challenge), and even if eveyone in leaderboard got the helping aps by dummy farming like how they did for pvp kills, at least here, there would be a percentage of actual legit people (not dummy account) who actually benefit from this compared to that of pvp kills.

    In fact, I'm very interested to hear good arguments not the repetitive, mindless arguement on dummy accounts. It's easy to deny a suggestion, that's what many are doing here, the real challenge lies in how to make an idea work. That's what I want to hear. If you can't provide any of those, I rest my case here and would wait for others to give more responses.

    Had I not been clear, I'm supporting the helping aspect in aps. I can be open with the "how" it is gonna be granted, nor necessarily through leveling up others. Can be any creative ways to make it viable and less exploitative. (Would be totally stupid to think we can prevent bots or dummy farmers so I ain't gonna waste my time discussing on that or dismissing a good idea - not just this but any good ideas - simply because of this pathetic reason)
    Try to read a bit before tagging me in your comment.
    I literally said they should remove pvp aps in the first sentence.
    Finish with a you here, respectfully, always is like talking to a wall.

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