@Cinco @Asommers Why Rogue is Inferior to War / Mage. (PVE ONLY)

[tailwarrior]

The cheapest mythic in the game is hyperos by far 3m clean imagine


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yes i meant both both hyperos and marianos

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[Tekila]

yes i meant both both hyperos and marianos

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Nepta and pola are at almost the same price as Mariano rn.


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[ItsTwelv]

Yeah
I mean,even decent mage/war still can melt/1-2 hit boss
But us rog? Yeah u know,seems they dont care bout rog anymore

[Ploid]

Rogue isn't weak, just that warrior are doing their job better.

Instead of adding more power creep, reduce warrior's damage... Simple.

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[profmsb]

since evg,rog kinda weak(not much proc dmge but low hp n armor that lead to easy die). Rn just wanna wait if arc weapon 81 rog gonna be op or if still outperform mage n war..then bye2 my rog..or even..bye2 al...zzzz

[Angelaxd]

we are very bad and they will always compare us with 1 to 10 rogues who go around with super expensive set's so that they say that if we serve (which is not real, because we are the only class that is not essential in a race, and if we go we are only the sweepers of the map, and if you complain there will be the "youtuber" called EnCRYption showing off and saying that it's not bad, just because I win a top "temple" or because it has a lot of money to be very strong as a team, no, I understand the reason , but STS always relies on this guy's clout to get things done, like it did when they nerfed the rogue at the beginning of the expansion, those who haven't played the "rogue" class for years should shut up and let STS lend pay attention to what we speak with experience, because those people who are always speaking out against rogues have never been around for YEARS that's why we never get any "Revamp" of any skill or "ultimate"

[Synergia]

we are very bad and they will always compare us with 1 to 10 rogues who go around with super expensive set's so that they say that if we serve (which is not real, because we are the only class that is not essential in a race, and if we go we are only the sweepers of the map, and if you complain there will be the "youtuber" called EnCRYption showing off and saying that it's not bad, just because I win a top "temple" or because it has a lot of money to be very strong as a team, no, I understand the reason , but STS always relies on this guy's clout to get things done, like it did when they nerfed the rogue at the beginning of the expansion, those who haven't played the "rogue" class for years should shut up and let STS lend pay attention to what we speak with experience, because those people who are always speaking out against rogues have never been around for YEARS that's why we never get any "Revamp" of any skill or "ultimate"

Perfectly said.

[Encryptions]

we are very bad and they will always compare us with 1 to 10 rogues who go around with super expensive set's

You do realize that rogs have done this to warrior and mage for years right? 1 war in the past will have millions of pts in evg as all of the others have 100-300k you guys chose to compare that 1 warrior who is maxed out to the top to your 1.5k dex rogues. Its so weird all of these rogs with 1.5k dex keep coming to this forum to complain that their class is weak when its really not, rog does need a better defense skill but when it comes to damage I don't see a mage or warrior hitting 1 aim for 23mil dmg.
And you just contradicted your self in your own post here by saying "they always compare us to the top rogue" well um each class has to be end game before they can have the ability to know if the class is op or not and 1.5k dex is not end game, try 2.6k+ dex and have strategy don't go in spamming skills at everything.

I didn't do team lb on swamp temple with a rog, only solo and I managed to get to wave 109 with a basic low stat rogue because I know how to play with strategy not spamming skills hoping everything dies. Btw I didn't get rog nerfed when this expansion came out, I was playing as the rog class for how op it was when compared to a mage / war. You are completely off the rails with the amount of incorrect info you have.

I remember everything, remember this thread ? You were banned on multiple accounts for player harassment also read what I said a few posts down. "They always compare the top 1 war". Its also funny that when mages and warriors have a prob with their class you rogues decide to harass the hell out of us by cursing us out. It just proves you have no logical input to give as to why you disagree. When you rogs have a problem with the class people who play with all 3 classes or even 2 classes efficiently will come on your threads and politely try to discuss points but no you rogs just throw insults left and right with no logical or valid points.
https://www.spacetimestudios.com/sho...ighlight=Glint

[Synergia]

You do realize that rogs have done this to warrior and mage for years right? 1 war in the past will have millions of pts in evg as all of the others have 100-300k you guys chose to compare that 1 warrior who is maxed out to the top to your 1.5k dex rogues. Its so weird all of these rogs with 1.5k dex keep coming to this forum to complain that their class is weak when its really not, rog does need a better defense skill but when it comes to damage I don't see a mage or warrior hitting 1 aim for 23mil dmg.
And you just contradicted your self in your own post here by saying "they always compare us to the top rogue" well um each class has to be end game before they can have the ability to know if the class is op or not and 1.5k dex is not end game, try 2.6k+ dex and have strategy don't go in spamming skills at everything.

I didn't do team lb on swamp temple with a rog, only solo and I managed to get to wave 109 with a basic low stat rogue because I know how to play with strategy not spamming skills hoping everything dies. Btw I didn't get rog nerfed when this expansion came out, I was playing as the rog class for how op it was when compared to a mage / war. You are completely off the rails with the amount of incorrect info you have.

I remember everything, remember this thread ? You were banned on multiple accounts for player harassment also read what I said a few posts down. "They always compare the top 1 war". Its also funny that when mages and warriors have a prob with their class you rogues decide to harass the hell out of us by cursing us out. It just proves you have no logical input to give as to why you disagree.
https://www.spacetimestudios.com/sho...ighlight=Glint

There we go, let's open the grudges that you and other mages / wasr are holding towards rogues for being OP like 4 years ago.
Always the most childish people, are the ones whos best arguement is "You were OP 4 years ago, now stay behind you deserve it"
Also I used 2.470 DEX set and I am telling you any war with myth set does the boss killing x5 faster and any mage with myth set can kill mobs faster. Sorry that you dont want to listen but this is facts, run elite sunken fleet with ur rogue and show us how you handle it better than mages / wars in ur party mr war main

Also, if rogues are so good as you claim mr war main, tell me then, what class is the worst by your opinion?

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There we go, let's open the grudges that you and other mages / wasr are holding towards rogues for being OP like 4 years ago.
Always the most childish people, are the ones whos best arguement is "You were OP 4 years ago, now stay behind you deserve it"

Also, if rogues are so good as you claim mr war main, tell me then, what class is the worst by your opinion?

Not asking to nerf rogs, we are telling you guys that your class is more than what you think it is. Pretty sure wars and mages wouldn't care if rogs were op IF they didn't sit in maps doing 4 rog pts all day and if a war was to join that war would get cursed out to leave and ignore listed just for existing yrs ago.
The worst class is Warrior. Warrior shouldn't be the boss nuker even if it was it does a bad job at it because you really have to have your stuff setup correctly in order to get the job done and most of the time things go wrong. We are useless vs mini bosses because by the time we get our aegis to proc the rog or mage has already killed the boss. Us vs groups of mobs... I have proc comboed every thing I can currently proc combo in order to try and be more efficient with mob clear and I am useless when it comes to clearing mobs. Can proc a dragon sword switch to terror blade pull all of the mobs in proc night mare aegis + dozer axe to stun all of the mobs at your feet for up to 7 seconds, but that doesn't kill them.
I play warrior right now only because of my aps, I have been focusing on getting aps, I have 52k atm. If I wasn't playing for aps then I would be on my mage rn as its the #1 class. Rogue is in the middle half mob clear half boss killer.
Will run rog on temple lb possibly, for warrior idk, for mage no.

[Synergia]

Not asking to nerf rogs, we are telling you guys that your class is more than what you think it is. Pretty sure wars and mages wouldn't care if rogs were op IF they didn't sit in maps doing 4 rog pts all day and if a war was to join that war would get cursed out to leave and ignore listed just for existing yrs ago.
The worst class is Warrior. Warrior shouldn't be the boss nuker even if it was it does a bad job at it because you really have to have your stuff setup correctly in order to get the job done and most of the time things go wrong. We are useless vs mini bosses because by the time we get our aegis to proc the rog or mage has already killed the boss. Us vs groups of mobs... I have proc comboed every thing I can currently proc combo in order to try and be more efficient with mob clear and I am useless when it comes to clearing mobs. Can proc a dragon sword switch to terror blade pull all of the mobs in proc night mare aegis + dozer axe to stun all of the mobs at your feet for up to 7 seconds, but that doesn't kill them.
I play warrior right now only because of my aps, I have been focusing on getting aps, I have 52k atm. If I wasn't playing for aps then I would be on my mage rn as its the #1 class. Rogue is in the middle half mob clear half boss killer.
Will run rog on temple lb possibly, for warrior idk, for mage no.

Look at the video I added, do you really think that 3 rogues can kill that boss at the same time? Also with no ult?

[Redjellydonut]

Hellnahh! Rogues still get op times and damage on bosses. This thread is pure bs


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[Synergia]

Hellnahh! Rogues still get op times and damage on bosses. This thread is pure bs

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Just by reading ur comment, I can tell that you havent been playing rogue in the past 4 years at least, by the level of your toxicity and 0 solid arguements I bet you are a mage main

[Redjellydonut]

Just by reading ur comment, I can tell that you havent been playing rogue in the past 4 years at least, by the level of your toxicity and 0 solid arguements I bet you are a mage main

Judging by ur response ur a rogue main because my comment about be disagreeing with the thread pressed u


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[Msrobinsonal]

Judging by ur response ur a rogue main because my comment about be disagreeing with the thread pressed u


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Was in the same guild as you a while, you don't even play pve/farm.

Rogues are lagging behind in terms of single target damage anyone who runs elite zodias content on a regular basis knows this.

[Angelaxd]

Not asking to nerf rogs, we are telling you guys that your class is more than what you think it is. Pretty sure wars and mages wouldn't care if rogs were op IF they didn't sit in maps doing 4 rog pts all day and if a war was to join that war would get cursed out to leave and ignore listed just for existing yrs ago.
The worst class is Warrior. Warrior shouldn't be the boss nuker even if it was it does a bad job at it because you really have to have your stuff setup correctly in order to get the job done and most of the time things go wrong. We are useless vs mini bosses because by the time we get our aegis to proc the rog or mage has already killed the boss. Us vs groups of mobs... I have proc comboed every thing I can currently proc combo in order to try and be more efficient with mob clear and I am useless when it comes to clearing mobs. Can proc a dragon sword switch to terror blade pull all of the mobs in proc night mare aegis + dozer axe to stun all of the mobs at your feet for up to 7 seconds, but that doesn't kill them.
I play warrior right now only because of my aps, I have been focusing on getting aps, I have 52k atm. If I wasn't playing for aps then I would be on my mage rn as its the #1 class. Rogue is in the middle half mob clear half boss killer.
Will run rog on temple lb possibly, for warrior idk, for mage no.

you are not asking for nerfer to rogues ??? you were the culprit and others who were not rogues who complained when "ekenta" was opened for the first time, when the rogue finally had prominence you made a thousand videos and complaints every day and now I don't see you complaining the same so that it is solved and do not say that the warrior is the worst of all, please if it were so you would go to another class instead of being a warrior as you did when it was confirmed that the rogue was the only one to survive and kill in zodias at the beginning, simply you do things that benefit you, there is nothing to say, if not you like it, you complain, you make yourself interesting and cause a stir in 70 forum fans so that they think you have absolute truth when they never tried it.

[snakeeyes]

Marianos should target locked when the target is affected by proc so it will not be hard to activate the proc in multiple enemies

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+1 this is the problem of marianos bow user if theres mobs spawn at the boss proc is useless. @asommers.

[pfizer]

Idk whats this debate for you dont farm solo you work as a team and as far as im seeing the rogues are not discriminated every team needs a rog.

[Deathlyreaper]

Idk whats this debate for you dont farm solo you work as a team and as far as im seeing the rogues are not discriminated every team needs a rog.

Idk how often you farm but for fast gold loot farms people would much rather prefer mages. But for those party that included rogues it’s because they’re really close friends with the rogue, could not find another mage, or the map had class restrictions. Majority of the time, having a rogue is a disadvantage and slows the party.


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[snakeeyes]

If a warior complain about rogue op power = rogue user is silent,
If rogue complain about war op power + buffs rogue = hundred of forum war user including their doble triple forum account get ready each one account will bully you.