Every ELITE Vanity Items should be SAME.

[Arsenal]

As Parth once said, its equality or oppurtunity, not flat out equality. You had the chance to get the 56 helm and 61 shield, you had the chance to download the app, even if you didnt you still had the oppurtunity. Everyone did, why should the ones who took advantage of it suffer.

[Whirlzap]

Another thread?
I'm just going to leave it to this:
In the world, people can see everything as unfair.
You think we are selfish in holding back our bonus from you?
We didn't hold it back at all.
STS held it back, they're the ones who annouced the change, not us.

And I think it is quite selfish of you, to demand being able to have stats.
It is like an ordinary man calling a king selfish for not letting him be a king.
Be happy, because at least you are not a peasant.
You still have your access to the elite dungeon.

MFA was never promised a bonus with the Monarch Helm or any future elite vanities.
STS may have stated that there MIGHT be future vanities with a bonus but never confirmed anything about MFA forming a bonus with Monarch Helm.
I'm sorry to say this, but you are being selfish in this too.
Everyone else who already has a COP or SoH still got a MFA, and since you were expecting a bonus, we could also say we were expecting a 4-piece bonus.
And don't say that we already have a bonus and just want more, because this is what you're doing yourself when you already have enough funds to hit level 71, get endgame gear, and then want more.

STS affects everyone with their actions, not just a small hand of people.

I have already seen a dozen of these threads, and Sam has personally locked a great number of them.

Complaining and petitioning about this matter over and over will not get solved.
I'm sure the Devs have already said No multiple times.

[Chopper]

Its not selfish, its customers feeling cheated and misled.

Imagine if Apple released a new Iphone every year (i know, it's a stretch to imagine that LOL). Each one has new features, and generates lot of revenue. A new Iphone is announced for November. Tons of people buy shares, discuss what features it might have, hold off on buying other phones, develop accessories, etc. etc. People spend money and time and everything else on the expectation of the new phone and what it does, etc. Apple sits back and does NOTHING. It just sits and soaks up the money from share purchases, etc. In fact, it starts to promote the new phone and its company shares HARD. It makes a ton of money leading up to it.

And then it releases a new phone, but wait. It's not a phone. it's just decorative. No function at all. Too bad. They never said it actually worked. However based on every other phone in the past, people are misled. Too bad suckers.

This would be an automatic lawsuit.

All we get here is STS saying there are no more bonuses, yes, but they have not addressed how their paying customers were misled and feel cheated.

[Whirlzap]

Its not selfish, its customers feeling cheated and misled.

Imagine if Apple released a new Iphone every year (i know, it's a stretch to imagine that LOL). Each one has new features, and generates lot of revenue. A new Iphone is announced for November. Tons of people buy shares, discuss what features it might have, hold off on buying other phones, develop accessories, etc. etc. People spend money and time and everything else on the expectation of the new phone and what it does, etc. Apple sits back and does NOTHING. It just sits and soaks up the money from share purchases, etc. In fact, it starts to promote the new phone and its company shares HARD. It makes a ton of money leading up to it.

And then it releases a new phone, but wait. It's not a phone. it's just decorative. No function at all. Too bad. They never said it actually worked. However based on every other phone in the past, people are misled. Too bad suckers.

This would be an automatic lawsuit.

All we get here is STS saying there are no more bonuses, yes, but they have not addressed how their paying customers were misled and feel cheated.

This is a game. Not stock-markets.

Apple is held by legal laws to not do get away with anything like that, yes, and that would be a lawsuit.
But this is the compatibility we are talking about.
This is different.

When STS placed MFA as the cap vanity, what you were guaranteed and fully received was the vanity itself.
The vanity isn't missing functions, it's still fully 100% completed.
You can complain about how bad it looks if you want, since that's what you paid your money for.

But you never paid your money for a bonus.
It was not said and you assume anything.

[Livemau]

i think the CoP SoH and MFA should make a set bonus but the MHoH and the 2 that come after it should also have a set bonus as part of a new set

[Livemau]

can someone quote the dev that said this

[Whirlzap]

Lol I can see why Dragon prices are rising now.
It's because STS killed future vanity bonuses and now only Dragon competes against Elites.

[Whirlzap]

Then you shouldn't be arguing.
Elite vanities were originally made for looks, not stats.
I'm afraid everyone has simply forgotten about that.

[Chopper]

Then you shouldn't be arguing.
Elite vanities were originally made for looks, not stats.
I'm afraid everyone has simply forgotten about that.

fine, then take away all bonuses for Elite, even the old ones and even it out. Just for looks.

[Nihiliste]

Crymoarplawx? I earned my set bonus through money and time. You all had the same chance to get your CoP/SoH/MFA. Don't be complaining now because you were too "lazy" or whatever excuse you had to not reach a cap. Simple solution, make the next cap vanity a bonus with the Monarch Helm of Humania. Then, we wouldn't have so many whiners and crier's.

[Cahaun]

This sounds like one of those: "If I can't have it, nobody will!" things

[Chopper]

This sounds like one of those: "If I can't have it, nobody will!" things

nah, that was in response to W's 'they are for looks' argument.

It's actually a 'why didn't STS warn people about the CHANGE in policy and let everyone spend tons of money based on an established practice that they let go on and profit from'? issue.

[Jsaieagle]

This sounds like one of those: "If I can't have it, nobody will!" things

^^Agree^^

[nomad187]

This sounds like one of those: "If I can't have it, nobody will!" things

^^this^^

[Zeus]

Can devs just give these crybabies their sets so when they come in PvP they'll find out that the sets were not the reason they were losing?

People will go to such great lengths to hide their ignorance.

Note: this post was only meant for the PvPers who think that the reason they lose is due to set bonus.

On another note, I don't mind them taking off bonuses for vanities all together BUT that should include all vanities that give stats or bonuses.

I think I just had a little tear due to how many people are beating this poor dead horse. :/

[WhoIsThis]

Can devs just give these crybabies their sets so when they come in PvP they'll find out that the sets were not the reason they were losing?

People will go to such great lengths to hide their ignorance.

Note: this post was only meant for the PvPers who think that the reason they lose is due to set bonus.

On another note, I don't mind them taking off bonuses for vanities all together BUT that should include all vanities that give stats or bonuses.

I think I just had a little tear due to how many people are beating this poor dead horse. :/

They'd just figure out a new thing to complain about.


When 66 was the level cap, I once fought another mage in mega mage while they were in crafted lilith. Round 1; 5-4 advantage me. When I got my lilith back - he/she got hammered and didn't kill me once. That was gear holding me back. Angel destroying every other set under 66? That's gear holding the underdog back.

The slight bonuses conveyed by the vanity set? It helps of course, but it isn't decisive. As it should be. If you want proof - ask top pvpers to remove their vanity sets. The ones that are truly good will and will kill their opponents almost as easily. Not to mention, the players that use the vanity sets have been around the longest and by nature are likely to be the most experienced.

[Register]

This whole thing is sorta ridiculous IMO ;P
It's a small bonus...Get better at the game an it wouldn't matter as much maybe?
I could've sworn people were saying level 12 Pvp takes little skill and it's about gear an it wa the exact opposite for endgame. What happened to that?

Anyways, if your that enraged about a few pixels and a number on a screen, don't play. Raging on a thread probably won't help.

Just my opinion...

[Jcyee]

This whole thing is sorta ridiculous IMO ;P
It's a small bonus...Get better at the game an it wouldn't matter as much maybe?
I could've sworn people were saying level 12 Pvp takes little skill and it's about gear an it wa the exact opposite for endgame. What happened to that?

Anyways, if your that enraged about a few pixels and a number on a screen, don't play. Raging on a thread probably won't help.

Just my opinion...

Lol

And yes a lot of people dont realize thst the bonus isnt as large as they think. Many players with just the mfa r just as skilled, if not better, than others with an elite vanity bonus

[Xionskull]

Yo, I have a few things to say... SOOO REEEAAAD!!
1. Mfa and Humania cap helm would be kewl if they had a small bonus.

2. A dragon set/ elite vanity set won't make the difference, skill will.

3. Next time ur in pvp, pvp a dude with elite vanity set then pvp him without the set, 0.0.

4. Live with it.

[Whirlzap]

Live with what?
Bad breath?
Horrible personal hygiene?
Umm, live with dragging a fish?
I confused.