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    Quote Originally Posted by dangibg View Post
    Lockeds is gamble, you cant blame that on the game. If you want to get gold with ur plat u dont open lockeds if you want to get rich you dont go to the casino not games fault, its ur fault gambling is a risk, if you arent prepared to take it and are going to cry in forums abt it, well, you shouldn’t gamble at all

    (Towards sts) One way of fixing this issue is stop being incompetent and add a list where ppl can see % drop rate of arcane/mythic/vanity etc etc, so they can calculate the risk they are taking and not open blindly then blaming you. You also have a fault in this!


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    totally agree to this .. in both ways

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    To all people calling it a gamble and we agreed on takinf the risk! Go try it yourself)

    Its verry verrry badly designed, if there are locks that cost 100% of the vallue but missing the guarantee isnt that just lazyness from the developer's?

    As we all understand it's luck based so dont come tell us but instead try ur own luck! Everyone pointing out thats it unbalanced isnt said without a reason. We get put aside and told to put it in forum and so we do! But we dont get any feedback whatsoever.

    You see soo many bugs happening on every release, drop rates adjusting etc etc. With that said think about the bugs that could be in the locks. Could be a value wrong and suddenly u get a biggg different in chest drops.

    Myself tried opening so many locks for the new arcane and the amount spend is insaine. Its weird to not even see an arcane drop after 2000+ locks opend on a single chest, 2000 ate 6000 pulls and not even a single one?

    Come on....



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    Quote Originally Posted by Sakura Bushido View Post
    To all people calling it a gamble and we agreed on takinf the risk! Go try it yourself)

    Its verry verrry badly designed, if there are locks that cost 100% of the vallue but missing the guarantee isnt that just lazyness from the developer's?

    As we all understand it's luck based so dont come tell us but instead try ur own luck! Everyone pointing out thats it unbalanced isnt said without a reason. We get put aside and told to put it in forum and so we do! But we dont get any feedback whatsoever.

    You see soo many bugs happening on every release, drop rates adjusting etc etc. With that said think about the bugs that could be in the locks. Could be a value wrong and suddenly u get a biggg different in chest drops.

    Myself tried opening so many locks for the new arcane and the amount spend is insaine. Its weird to not even see an arcane drop after 2000+ locks opend on a single chest, 2000 ate 6000 pulls and not even a single one?

    Come on....



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    But how does that change the fact that still, its a gamble and you’re knowingly, and apparently willingly, taking the risk.
    There is a plethora of alternatives to spend your platinum on, if you really want to get that one arcane, then spend the platinum on something tradable.
    As someone who has played more gacha games than 1 hand can count, the amount spent on Arcane is trivial for the potential items you get in return. But that is my 2 cents.
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    Always like this idk why

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spooked View Post
    But how does that change the fact that still, its a gamble and you’re knowingly, and apparently willingly, taking the risk.
    There is a plethora of alternatives to spend your platinum on, if you really want to get that one arcane, then spend the platinum on something tradable.
    As someone who has played more gacha games than 1 hand can count, the amount spent on Arcane is trivial for the potential items you get in return. But that is my 2 cents.
    Like we say, Sakura; Helaas Pindakaas
    Reading ur older posts tells me enough.. if u have so much experience u know about drop rates and stuff.

    Im certain the message i made says enough, we understand what we invest in. Not the point.

    But the developer's taking no time to take a look or give feedback is shooting their own feet.
    As simple as asking for a guarantee on 300 pulls for 100% increased price chest isn't related to the drops its more fairness to the real plat spenders.

    Its funny u have a comment on it! Bet u dont support the developers as much as some of us do as then u can only imagine the question marks it brings up.

    Ik snap zelf ook dat het een speld in de hooiberg zoeken is. Ze gaan hier toch nooit wat aan doen.


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    Apps en games die mechanismen aanbieden om willekeurige virtuele items te ontvangen bij een aankoop (waaronder, maar niet beperkt tot, 'loot boxes'), moeten zowel vóór als tijdig en in de buurt van de aankoop duidelijk vermelden hoe groot de kans is dat de gebruiker die items krijgt.

    Google play regulations, and as shown in arcane legends im wondering if this is consistent and its in my eyes unclear what the rates are.


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    Apps and games offering mechanisms to receive randomized virtual items from a purchase including, but not limited to, “loot boxes” must clearly disclose the odds of receiving those items in advance of, and in close and timely proximity to, that purchase

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sakura Bushido View Post
    Google play regulations, and as shown in arcane legends im wondering if this is consistent and its in my eyes unclear what the rates are.

    Apps and games offering mechanisms to receive randomized virtual items from a purchase including, but not limited to, “loot boxes” must clearly disclose the odds of receiving those items in advance of, and in close and timely proximity to, that purchase
    First thing, I don’t agree or disagree w you, but I wanted to inform you of how what you posted here does not apply

    The reason sts does not have to show the % chance of a drop is that real life money is not the only way to open said loot chests
    If it was they might have to show the %

    Fact is that they offer crate keys that can be earned & they have plat eggs that can be bought & farmed
    This is why the rule of having to show % does not apply to them
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    dunno if i commented on this already but yeahhh man i dont wanna spend $40,000 on a game, thanks!

    The trash in the crates should be destroyed, deleted, yeah i think i have commented, hahaha.

    ..anyway to elaborate might as well while im here,

    YEs i understand the trash must be present to maintain the value of the rarities,

    ..BUT the trash should be useful in some way (28 currencies, elixirs, materials, so much more),

    ...instead of a sell for 4g type of deal -

    THEN , I think people will be so so happy to buy them.

    a gamers advice:Replace the trash with useful things so if someone didn't get what they wanted for $500, they will still have a ton of useful tokens and stuff- opposed to 4,000pcs of epic equipment that can only be liquidated to 20k gold.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dangibg View Post
    Lockeds is gamble, you cant blame that on the game. If you want to get gold with ur plat u dont open lockeds if you want to get rich you dont go to the casino not games fault, its ur fault gambling is a risk, if you arent prepared to take it and are going to cry in forums abt it, well, you shouldn’t gamble at all

    (Towards sts) One way of fixing this issue is stop being incompetent and add a list where ppl can see % drop rate of arcane/mythic/vanity etc etc, so they can calculate the risk they are taking and not open blindly then blaming you. You also have a fault in this!


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    I can agree with that, kinda.

    ....A casino is fun, and offers opportunities to develop useful skills, such as card counting..

    Locked crates on the other hand contain useless epic/legendary items, which should be removed.

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    ..... No guarantee in 100% price increases chest i dont see how yall look over the simple and main question.

    I understand its side shifting what STS is doing. And its just a matter of time.
    Many games i played with developer with morals and rules even work the same way hiding loot boxes Behind Currency.

    And they still add % or atleast a message that its super Low chance.

    It just shows how much STS cares about their people.

    Funny thing, im replying to this post cause i love investing 40000 euro into my favorite development team. I wont even mind if there was transparency and an ear to the community.

    It just became clear to me, i aint spending a singel dime again on this development team. As long as they wont follow morals and regulations and try hide the main problem.



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    Quote Originally Posted by dangibg View Post
    Lockeds is gamble, you cant blame that on the game. If you want to get gold with ur plat u dont open lockeds if you want to get rich you dont go to the casino not games fault, its ur fault gambling is a risk, if you arent prepared to take it and are going to cry in forums abt it, well, you shouldn’t gamble at all

    (Towards sts) One way of fixing this issue is stop being incompetent and add a list where ppl can see % drop rate of arcane/mythic/vanity etc etc, so they can calculate the risk they are taking and not open blindly then blaming you. You also have a fault in this!


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    100% they need to add % drop rate on every locked chests


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    Quote Originally Posted by Stephencobear View Post
    First thing, I don’t agree or disagree w you, but I wanted to inform you of how what you posted here does not apply

    The reason sts does not have to show the % chance of a drop is that real life money is not the only way to open said loot chests
    If it was they might have to show the %

    Fact is that they offer crate keys that can be earned & they have plat eggs that can be bought & farmed
    This is why the rule of having to show % does not apply to them
    There’s no way that crates keys and even plat eggs combined are being used more than bought plat to open locks lol I bet it isn’t even close, so us that buy plat for chests are fxcked cause they created plat eggs and crate keys? What about back then when plat eggs and keys & offers didn’t exist? They still didn’t had the % did they?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Urdookie07 View Post
    There’s no way that crates keys and even plat eggs combined are being used more than bought plat to open locks lol I bet it isn’t even close, so us that buy plat for chests are fxcked cause they created plat eggs and crate keys? What about back then when plat eggs and keys & offers didn’t exist? They still didn’t had the % did they?


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    ''back then'' as in 2019? yes plat eggs and offers did exist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spooked View Post
    ''back then'' as in 2019? yes plat eggs and offers did exist.
    Nah back then as the OG days I’m talking 2012-2015


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    Quote Originally Posted by Urdookie07 View Post
    There’s no way that crates keys and even plat eggs combined are being used more than bought plat to open locks lol I bet it isn’t even close, so us that buy plat for chests are fxcked cause they created plat eggs and crate keys? What about back then when plat eggs and keys & offers didn’t exist? They still didn’t had the % did they?
    That plat is the (certainly) most used is irrelevant to the law that says they have to disclose the % afaik

    As to “back when” b4 those options I don’t think the law requiring % disclosure existed back then
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    Quote Originally Posted by Urdookie07 View Post
    Nah back then as the OG days I’m talking 2012-2015


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    Might wanna look up when google started regulating loot box odds
    P.s: 2019
    So no, thats why when there were no plat eggs nor crate keys, they weren’t obligated to show percentages

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spooked View Post
    But how does that change the fact that still, its a gamble and you’re knowingly, and apparently willingly, taking the risk.
    There is a plethora of alternatives to spend your platinum on, if you really want to get that one arcane, then spend the platinum on something tradable.
    As someone who has played more gacha games than 1 hand can count, the amount spent on Arcane is trivial for the potential items you get in return. But that is my 2 cents.
    Like we say, Sakura; Helaas Pindakaas
    I think guaranteed loot would benefit everyone.
    If people regularly get disappointed with drops and unreasonably unlucky it doesn't make sense for them to keep opening locks. That would hurt the economy and player base since it would mean less drops. It would be better for everyone if locks were a bit more friendly instead of a gamble.

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    That's how gambling works like, you usually lose money, it's normal.

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    Luck needed man

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aeot View Post
    I think guaranteed loot would benefit everyone.
    If people regularly get disappointed with drops and unreasonably unlucky it doesn't make sense for them to keep opening locks. That would hurt the economy and player base since it would mean less drops. It would be better for everyone if locks were a bit more friendly instead of a gamble.
    Guaranteed loot is already part of locks (just the store ones though), but even that doesnt guarantee what you want and it can take from all day to several days just to get through all of the pulls. People want it to guarantee an arcane at a reasonable amount of pulls, but it guarantees either a mythic or an arcane, basically just a higher chance at an arcane. It doesn’t help that mythics are really cheap now. The only time it guaranteed an arcane was during the birthday event, but they doubled the pulls required for the guarantee (3000 plat worth). Unless you like taking a chance, there’s no reason to open locks until they make the guarantee system fair and reasonable.

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