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    Quote Originally Posted by Oursizes View Post
    Kraken sword still does far less damage than mythic neptaris. Maybe 2-2.5x less? Can you please look into this again?
    I see the Mythic Sword sustaining somewhere in the neighborhood of 3-5k DPS average while the Kraken Sword is running upwards of 15-20k

    Would love more info about your experience. Thanks!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cinco View Post
    When testing Bow, Sword and Gun - please let us know if you're testing against Bosses and Minibosses... or if you're testing against normal / minion monsters.

    The changes in today's update for these three are meant to affect only Bosses and Minibosses. TIA!
    Against hydra:
    Before this update bow did 250k-320k crits on DoT
    After update bow did 250-320k DoT crits.
    Basically felt no change..

    Armor procs immediately after dealing some damage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xyv.io View Post
    Against hydra:
    Before this update bow did 250k-320k crits on DoT
    After update bow did 250-320k DoT crits.
    Basically felt no change..

    Armor procs immediately after dealing some damage.
    Thanks! I'll check to make sure the changes actually made it out to the game servers - 'cause that's not at all what I see :-)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cinco View Post
    I see the Mythic Sword sustaining somewhere in the neighborhood of 3-5k DPS average while the Kraken Sword is running upwards of 15-20k

    Would love more info about your experience. Thanks!
    Tested on Hydra I’ve yet to test in elite zodiac maps. Neptaris (with mythic set and speed set) when proced for me is doing ~700k or so lines on proc damage. Kraken sword (with mythic set, no other procs) is doing around 130k lines

    When testing against orrick, neptaris (with mythic set) can do around 70% or so if it’s hp in 1 proc (with vengeful blood).

    With Kraken sword (mythic set), it’s doing around 40% or so at best despite having a longer proc uptime.

    Perhaps the whole intent is to be used with only kraken armor? Can you confirm if this is the case? @cinco

    Would love to see other warrior players chime in with their experience as well.

    Also, for mini bosses sword does only around 40% as well in one proc. Neptaris can still kill mini boss faster

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    Ebon armor proc+kraken staff feels broken? I don’t notice any damage output chance when both procced, while before they would instantly melt any enemy
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    Hi Devs


    Still doing the same damage on e sunk minibosses and main bosses.
    Same as other player I was doing 250k-320K dmg crits on hydra (2K dex) no armor proc.


    Maybe the buffs did not go through?


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    Thank you very much everything is super good that you have nice day

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oursizes View Post
    Tested on Hydra I’ve yet to test in elite zodiac maps. Neptaris (with mythic set and speed set) when proced for me is doing ~700k or so lines on proc damage. Kraken sword (with mythic set, no other procs) is doing around 130k lines

    When testing against orrick, neptaris (with mythic set) can do around 70% or so if it’s hp in 1 proc (with vengeful blood).

    With Kraken sword (mythic set), it’s doing around 40% or so at best despite having a longer proc uptime.

    Perhaps the whole intent is to be used with only kraken armor? Can you confirm if this is the case? @cinco

    Would love to see other warrior players chime in with their experience as well.

    Also, for mini bosses sword does only around 40% as well in one proc. Neptaris can still kill mini boss faster
    Indeed - the full Kraken Arcane "set" was front of mind with the original release and with our most recent balance changes. We expect players will acquire more of these 81 Arcane pieces as time goes and we are doing our best to avoid painful nerfs in the future. We also do consider how much more powerful any Arcane gear can be given optional upgrades.

    There are huge advantages of "guaranteed proc on charge" vs. the "active charge response" methods of the Zodias Mythics. Paying attention and capitalizing on the Mythic weapons proc stages should still be very powerful. It's really not our aim to bury the Mythics but to allow players a fair bit of choice among activation methods while not having to sacrifice tons of stats / DPS.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cinco View Post
    When testing Bow, Sword and Gun - please let us know if you're testing against Bosses and Minibosses... or if you're testing against normal / minion monsters.

    The changes in today's update for these three are meant to affect only Bosses and Minibosses. TIA!
    I just tried kraken sword against orrick and it does literally the same amount of damage.

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    https://youtube.com/watch?v=gPA9kp1QogA
    Recorded another fast video...
    well... Hyperos with myth set still outclasses kraken gun. Hyperos WITHOUT set bonus has same dmg as kraken gun, but hyperos costs 700k and kraken costs 70m.

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    Nerf the armor proc rate? everyone is like roaming around as if we're using the first-generation Kraken Claws.

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    I don't have a kraken armor, but people are saying that the proc rate is broken, so I guess that proc rate should be nerfed (should be same chance as ebon-76lvl ones i think).

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    Basically if you’re a rogue with claws you’re Useless. You’re a mob killer now, which everyone skips. So run around now and fling arrows because if rogues get an OP weapon there will be pitchfork carrying mobs demanding you be nerfed. I can hear the chants now, “No nerf, no peace!”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ilove_Poopoo View Post
    Nerf the armor proc rate? everyone is like roaming around as if we're using the first-generation Kraken Claws.
    Yeah let's keep the proc rate only slightly(+5-10%) better than og

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    Same damage. Kraken aegis and sword. Very good changes on armor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cinco View Post
    Indeed - the full Kraken Arcane "set" was front of mind with the original release and with our most recent balance changes. We expect players will acquire more of these 81 Arcane pieces as time goes and we are doing our best to avoid painful nerfs in the future. We also do consider how much more powerful any Arcane gear can be given optional upgrades.

    There are huge advantages of "guaranteed proc on charge" vs. the "active charge response" methods of the Zodias Mythics. Paying attention and capitalizing on the Mythic weapons proc stages should still be very powerful. It's really not our aim to bury the Mythics but to allow players a fair bit of choice among activation methods while not having to sacrifice tons of stats / DPS.
    Makes sense. One thing I do want to point out (at least for warrior), is equipping neptaris with mythic set gives me almost 400 more STR than the mythic gears with kraken sword, due to set buffs (difference in around 1.2k or so damage, and almost 10k health difference)

    Without kraken armor proc, warrior ends up feeling a LOT squishier in esf. To the point I feel almost as fragile as a rogue if I tank/Aggro one too many mobs. Are there any plans to give some kind of buff to the kraken set (like a set bonus)? Keeping the damage boost from the proc aside.

    Also, I just did a test with both neptaris & kraken sword, without mythic set bonus for neptaris. In orrick, with Neptaris I was able to do about 55-60% damage in the proc duration, while sword did hardly 35%ish damage, despite showing visually higher stats.

    Can you do this test from your end and let us know if you’re seeing something different? Happy to provide the exact gears/jewels etc I used.

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    Ty for the update.
    Armor buff makes the kraken gun look better now but it isn‘t actually. Hyperos now far better…
    Tested on portal boss elite mecha and elite sunken first boss.
    Kraken gun still need a lil bit more dmg.
    Kraken staff is completely fine now tyvm.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Balenciaqa View Post
    Ty for the update.
    Armor buff makes the kraken gun look better now but it isn‘t actually. Hyperos now far better…
    Tested on portal boss elite mecha and elite sunken first boss.
    Kraken gun still need a lil bit more dmg.
    Kraken staff is completely fine now tyvm.


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    Um nty. U want the kraken gun to 1 tap everything if u want it to be better than hyperos. Every map is too easy with the armor proc change. Might aswell run brackenridge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ilove_Poopoo View Post
    Um nty. U want the kraken gun to 1 tap everything if u want it to be better than hyperos. Every map is too easy with the armor proc change. Might aswell run brackenridge.

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    That's why current armor proc rate should be nerfed (proc rate should be same as ebon-76lvl ones).

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