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    Default Give some love for Rogues!!

    I just went back playing AL just a month ago. I love rogue because it WAS (years ago) the best damager. However, rogue has been decimated in every angle now.

    Warriors can LITERALLY 1 hit rogues with ANY attacking skill!
    I have full kraken set and all full awake with decent awake and still getting 1 HIT by mythic set warriors! IMAGINE FULL KRAKEN WARRIORS!

    Also warriors 1 tap elite bosses too!

    So what’s the point of being rogue?????

    Also, full MYTHIC rogues does 50.000 damage to ARCANES sets rogues. Aren’t arcane items should be the best gear in game?

    STS wants people to buy Arcane items but legendary and mythic are the same (if not better) stats. Are they clowning us?

    Unless you have insane OP awakes and gems then you are most likely just a walking target for people

    The L71 cap was really amazing:
    Warrior ebon does reflect which literally makes sense because tank should taunt, tank and hold positions.

    Mages this Cap is the best balanced char so far.

    Also in PVE kraken rogue items has a veeery long CD which leaves us drastically vulnerable during that time!

    I remind you ARCANE items should be the BEST in the game but unfortunately it is not at all.

    Plausible suggestions for @Cinco:

    a. Isn’t it better to add additional stats for a full kraken set? (5/5 no ring and amulet? 4/4 no Artifact? You decide)

    b. Buff Rogue DEF so warrior class can’t literally 1 hit us?

    c. Kraken items PVE less CD? Or more Armor so we don’t die like flies??? Rogue full kraken cant even solo elite mausoleum without dying.


    What do you think?

    I’m against nerfing so warrior must not have nerfs. Other class need buffs

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marcoss View Post
    I just went back playing AL just a month ago. I love rogue because it WAS (years ago) the best damager. However, rogue has been decimated in every angle now.

    Warriors can LITERALLY 1 hit rogues with ANY attacking skill!
    I have full kraken set and all full awake with decent awake and still getting 1 HIT by mythic set warriors! IMAGINE FULL KRAKEN WARRIORS!

    Also warriors 1 tap elite bosses too!

    So what’s the point of being rogue?????

    Also, full MYTHIC rogues does 50.000 damage to ARCANES sets rogues. Aren’t arcane items should be the best gear in game?

    STS wants people to buy Arcane items but legendary and mythic are the same (if not better) stats. Are they clowning us?

    Unless you have insane OP awakes and gems then you are most likely just a walking target for people

    The L71 cap was really amazing:
    Warrior ebon does reflect which literally makes sense because tank should taunt, tank and hold positions.

    Mages this Cap is the best balanced char so far.

    Also in PVE kraken rogue items has a veeery long CD which leaves us drastically vulnerable during that time!

    I remind you ARCANE items should be the BEST in the game but unfortunately it is not at all.

    Plausible suggestions for @Cinco:

    a. Isn’t it better to add additional stats for a full kraken set? (5/5 no ring and amulet? 4/4 no Artifact? You decide)

    b. Buff Rogue DEF so warrior class can’t literally 1 hit us?

    c. Kraken items PVE less CD? Or more Armor so we don’t die like flies??? Rogue full kraken cant even solo elite mausoleum without dying.


    What do you think?

    I’m against nerfing so warrior must not have nerfs. Other class need buffs
    -1 not according with this guy, kralen bow and daggers are so good now if u compare with krak sword.

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    Another rog crying to be best class as usual I see

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    Default Give some love for Rogues!!

    Quote Originally Posted by recilencia123 View Post
    -1 not according with this guy, kralen bow and daggers are so good now if u compare with krak sword.

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    You didn’t even get the point because you’re not able to comprehend.

    I’m not saying bow and dagger are worse than kraken sword.

    I’m stating the massive gap between classes and rogue has lost its meaning.

    Please read before comment. A handful of neurons can be useful


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    Not trying to be the best. Just trying to be reasonable.

    In the long run you will see only tanks because they do everything now: 1 hit pvp, 1 hit boss, 1 hit mobs outclassing the rest of the classes

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marcoss View Post
    Not trying to be the best. Just trying to be reasonable.

    In the long run you will see only tanks because they do everything now: 1 hit pvp, 1 hit boss, 1 hit mobs outclassing the rest of the classes
    In other words u tell me stupid xD its ok man, but still no according with u, maybe the problem is use carefully ur skills or idk just and advice amigo, best wishes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marcoss View Post
    Not trying to be the best. Just trying to be reasonable.

    In the long run you will see only tanks because they do everything now: 1 hit pvp, 1 hit boss, 1 hit mobs outclassing the rest of the classes
    you are wrong...mage are the most op now even with kraken armor + hyperos are too op boss killer ...and kraken amror + aquaris op mobs cleaner... I already try it & i have video of it

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    Quote Originally Posted by danialazhad63 View Post
    you are wrong...mage are the most op now even with kraken armor + hyperos are too op boss killer ...and kraken amror + aquaris op mobs cleaner... I already try it & i have video of it

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    True, my first character was warriors and than I feel boring, I changed to rouge, my first experience on rouge so so, but right now want to changed to mage because mage have lots AOE skill easy to kill mobs on maps plus item proc op,

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    You’ll be okay.

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    First of all... War with full kraken is useless in esunk if he has no ulti while rogue can literally melt boss in one proc(armor+weapon)

    Also mythic set is good only because of the set bonus, you cannot compare kraken procs with mythic set bonus... If you want better stats then just proc your kraken gear and switch to mythic set for more dmg.

    Stop crying about rogue being weak, rogue( with average awakes) can easily solo esunk within 1.30 minute, if you are not able to do it then you are not skilled enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gunstick View Post
    First of all... War with full kraken is useless in esunk if he has no ulti while rogue can literally melt boss in one proc(armor+weapon)

    Also mythic set is good only because of the set bonus, you cannot compare kraken procs with mythic set bonus... If you want better stats then just proc your kraken gear and switch to mythic set for more dmg.

    Stop crying about rogue being weak, rogue( with average awakes) can easily solo esunk within 1.30 minute, if you are not able to do it then you are not skilled enough.

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    As a mage w/ 3% int awakes on a full kraken set. (Only 1.8k int) i solo E sunk in 1m 30s. W/o issue.

    I know this will probably get lost in the comments but sometimes when I’m home alone I like to go out in my garden and cover myself with dirt and pretend I’m a carrot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gunstick View Post
    First of all... War with full kraken is useless in esunk if he has no ulti while rogue can literally melt boss in one proc(armor+weapon)

    Also mythic set is good only because of the set bonus, you cannot compare kraken procs with mythic set bonus... If you want better stats then just proc your kraken gear and switch to mythic set for more dmg.

    Stop crying about rogue being weak, rogue( with average awakes) can easily solo esunk within 1.30 minute, if you are not able to do it then you are not skilled enough.

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    So you all suggesting that it is normal to get 1 hit by a tank warrior with any skills?


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    Free bump, just saying rogues r supposed to be glass cannons

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    Rog literally nukes everything in all of the pve maps before I can hit anything with my war.
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    all the classes are now very strong so there is no need to buff the rogue anymore, sts/dev has done everything for us to achieve the balance and now we have achieved it, let's not destroy the balance anymore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by snakeeyes View Post
    all the classes are now very strong so there is no need to buff the rogue anymore, sts/dev has done everything for us to achieve the balance and now we have achieved it, let's not destroy the balance anymore.
    Tanks 1 hitting is far from balanced.

    Probably PVE, but PVP we have way to go


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    I also want to quote that most active rogues are shifting to warrior because of the obvious gap which all warrior users are denying

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marcoss View Post
    I also want to quote that most active rogues are shifting to warrior because of the obvious gap which all warrior users are denying
    Warrior players are swapping to rog, I have been thinking about swapping to rog myself. Nuke any boss in seconds why not go to rog. Might even swap during the awa event.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Encryptions View Post
    Warrior players are swapping to rog, I have been thinking about swapping to rog myself. Nuke any boss in seconds why not go to rog. Might even swap during the awa event.

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    Dude you have like 20 L81 chars and we both know you can afford both class simultaneously. Warrior can also easy clean mobs and bosses with sword and aegis and we both know this


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    Quote Originally Posted by Marcoss View Post
    Dude you have like 20 L81 chars and we both know you can afford both class simultaneously. Warrior can also easy clean mobs and bosses with sword and aegis and we both know this


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    Rog with kraken do not struggle in the one map people play in this game After reading this thread I'm wondering if we are even playing the same game.

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