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    So now you notice there are more things that would need to be implemented when wanting to release dead names.

    Auctioning off names would be nice, but say we released 1000 names per day, it would take a more than 30 years to release all 12M+ names.

    The time to hand out a name is when a player wants to use it, so I'm actually leaning toward players possibly paying for the dead name they want with Platinum (that would weed out the hoarders), but I'm not sure how I'd feel about a game when creating a new character with a name in use and then receive a prompt such as 'Name unavailable, but you can have that name for 100 Platinum!' With context it makes sense, this game has been around for 10 years and there are millions of unused names, but it still feels like a scam.

    We have several options:
    1. Do nothing and keep what we have now
    2. Release the names and don't worry about the exploitation/hoarding
    3. Sell the dead name at the point of character creation

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    Sell the names, you can give context on character creation screen if necessary

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    Quote Originally Posted by asommers View Post
    So now you notice there are more things that would need to be implemented when wanting to release dead names.

    Auctioning off names would be nice, but say we released 1000 names per day, it would take a more than 30 years to release all 12M+ names.

    The time to hand out a name is when a player wants to use it, so I'm actually leaning toward players possibly paying for the dead name they want with Platinum (that would weed out the hoarders), but I'm not sure how I'd feel about a game when creating a new character with a name in use and then receive a prompt such as 'Name unavailable, but you can have that name for 100 Platinum!' With context it makes sense, this game has been around for 10 years and there are millions of unused names, but it still feels like a scam.

    We have several options:
    1. Do nothing and keep what we have now
    2. Release the names and don't worry about the exploitation/hoarding
    3. Sell the dead name at the point of character creation

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    2 or 3, doesnt really matter to me. If you wanna do 1 I wouldn’t care too much either, but having new names would also be fun.


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    Quote Originally Posted by asommers View Post
    So now you notice there are more things that would need to be implemented when wanting to release dead names.

    Auctioning off names would be nice, but say we released 1000 names per day, it would take a more than 30 years to release all 12M+ names.

    The time to hand out a name is when a player wants to use it, so I'm actually leaning toward players possibly paying for the dead name they want with Platinum (that would weed out the hoarders), but I'm not sure how I'd feel about a game when creating a new character with a name in use and then receive a prompt such as 'Name unavailable, but you can have that name for 100 Platinum!' With context it makes sense, this game has been around for 10 years and there are millions of unused names, but it still feels like a scam.

    We have several options:
    1. Do nothing and keep what we have now
    2. Release the names and don't worry about the exploitation/hoarding
    3. Sell the dead name at the point of character creation

    -ALS
    When you say 12mil names wouldn't include names like "Bluebox" or "Fastfish"? Or all of these names 1 word that is commonly used. Using the names as a lb reward would be very interesting imo, use the best names for lb and to sell. Filter out the bad names and you might be left with around if lucky 1mil names that are 1 word and commonly used. They don't need to be all instantly freed up, they can be used for future forum contests, event lbs, like even this event if the ign Fish isn't active then it could be used for top 1.
    The real issue is the black market which will never end unless you guys decide 1 month to weed out all of those players.

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    I didn't look at the names themselves, I just counted the number of characters on non-banned trial accounts that hadn't logged in in over 5 years. All of those names would automatically be freed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by asommers View Post
    I didn't look at the names themselves, I just counted the number of characters on non-banned trial accounts that hadn't logged in in over 5 years. All of those names would automatically be freed.

    -ALS
    I see, best option would filter the bad names from the good names, 3 letter words are top tier, then 4 letter words, then 3 letter names ex (Kpp), 5 letter words, 4 letter names (Kppp), then 5-8 letter words, 5-9 letter 2 word igns, 9-13 letter words.
    Thats the ranking system I'd go by for best to worst.

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    We've seen what happened last time and I have no trust that people will NOT get around settings/limitations

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    I mean selling the deed doesn't sound too bad now, does it?
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    why cant you guys just be creative with your names? releasing names will create a surge of name selling. if you do end up selling these names you should sell them for a sizable amount of plat and make it account/character bound. better yet, make it so if that name gets renamed/deleted from a character it has to be purchased AGAIN. do not make these cheap or dont release them at all

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    Quote Originally Posted by worldwide309 View Post
    why cant you guys just be creative with your names? releasing names will create a surge of name selling. if you do end up selling these names you should sell them for a sizable amount of plat and make it account/character bound. better yet, make it so if that name gets renamed/deleted from a character it has to be purchased AGAIN. do not make these cheap or dont release them at all
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    Keep what we have now this unnecessary would only create problems/conflict, game already fine

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    How about 1b gold for each banned name this could act as gold sink to fix the economy

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    Quote Originally Posted by asommers View Post
    I didn't look at the names themselves, I just counted the number of characters on non-banned trial accounts that hadn't logged in in over 5 years. All of those names would automatically be freed.

    -ALS
    That's the best solution i feel , i don't think there's any other viable option , though people might try to exploit, but there isn't a better option i think .

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    Quote Originally Posted by asommers View Post
    So now you notice there are more things that would need to be implemented when wanting to release dead names.

    Auctioning off names would be nice, but say we released 1000 names per day, it would take a more than 30 years to release all 12M+ names.

    The time to hand out a name is when a player wants to use it, so I'm actually leaning toward players possibly paying for the dead name they want with Platinum (that would weed out the hoarders), but I'm not sure how I'd feel about a game when creating a new character with a name in use and then receive a prompt such as 'Name unavailable, but you can have that name for 100 Platinum!' With context it makes sense, this game has been around for 10 years and there are millions of unused names, but it still feels like a scam.

    We have several options:
    1. Do nothing and keep what we have now
    2. Release the names and don't worry about the exploitation/hoarding
    3. Sell the dead name at the point of character creation

    -ALS
    3 is a good trade. Dead unused names should not be impactful for the owner and the rest community can enjoy it

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    Quote Originally Posted by asommers View Post
    I didn't look at the names themselves, I just counted the number of characters on non-banned trial accounts that hadn't logged in in over 5 years. All of those names would automatically be freed.

    -ALS
    There is a fourth opinion, release the name without any announcement. New ppl log in try a name and bam. Still think accounts should be limited in number per household/characters per account. Someone told me he has over 400 toons...that should not have been possible.
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    Crazy idea here... how about, for now, names can be converted to a ........ Tradable deed.... could be a huuuuuuuge gold sink. Fee to craft into a deed that can be stashed or traded. Maybe all the people hoarding names would start selling them.
    Take this opportunity to restrict number of alts/accounts. Then afterwards the temp account names could be released without notice.
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    Worst idea to introduce a deed for names in Economy with 12m combination.

    Add a platinum cost to the name make it 250 plat+ and add a maximum cap of 1-2 bought daily.

    This allows evryone who wants this to get what he wants.

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    And in all fairness to the developers,

    There should be a option to reserve names and giving the player who offers most the right to buy it.

    Sponsoring our favorite development team and it seems really fair in the state game is in.

    Release a 2 day period for couple handfull names allowing people to bid on it if such thing is possible.

    I can only imagine its way to hard, sadly.

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    just keep things the way they are and come up with a creative name of your own. if not auction the names for absurd amounts of plat/gold. make each name 1750 plat just like auras and arc eggs or at least 250m per name (very good gold sink) - make the names account bound/character bound and once deleted/renamed they need to be purchased again. the name sellers are going to go crazy if they just get released, at least this way they will have to PAY to break ToS and risk their account.

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