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    Quote Originally Posted by Elec View Post
    We are not asking to do dmg like them or more them. While single Rogue or mage can kill E eke within 40sec, we can barely do 1/3.

    I appreciate the buff but Swrod should have buff on proc dot not base. It is better than before but still little short to take E rahab 1 2.
    Nep still do better dmg and this disappointed.
    Just hope it does 10-20% more dmg.
    The proc / DOT was buffed.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Cinco View Post
    It’s an awesome weapon.

    You want it to be better than Guns and Bows and that’s just silly.


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    You haven't given a reason why tank weapons shouldn't equal the bow or gun in dmg.

    But handing out 300% armor, 500% hp, and several stacking dmg reduction procs to mages and/or rogs isn't silly to you? To the point that a mage/rog would prolly survive better. How ironic.

    If anything, wars are being segregated in gold farming as they can't do dmg rn.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ilove_Poopoo View Post
    You haven't given a reason why tank weapons shouldn't equal the bow or gun in dmg.

    But handing out 300% armor, 500% hp, and several stacking dmg reduction procs to mages and/or rogs isn't silly to you? To the point that a mage/rog would prolly survive better. How ironic.

    If anything, wars are being segregated in gold farming as they can't do dmg rn.


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    I think it should be obvious.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ilove_Poopoo View Post
    You haven't given a reason why tank weapons shouldn't equal the bow or gun in dmg.

    But handing out 300% armor, 500% hp, and several stacking dmg reduction procs to mages and/or rogs isn't silly to you? To the point that a mage/rog would prolly survive better. How ironic.

    If anything, wars are being segregated in gold farming as they can't do dmg rn.


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    Instead of buffing weapons which will only create the same problem down the line in future expansions, they should just add a 'Berserker' passive skill for warrs. When taken, it would lower the warriors hp and armor to that of a rogue and in return buff the warriors damage to be at least more competitive. Some other skills may need to be tweaked to balance that though. Would also kill any kind of 'class fantasy' left in the game but it is what it is at this stage, at least it would give warriors more flexibility.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cinco View Post
    It’s an awesome weapon.

    You want it to be better than Guns and Bows and that’s just silly.


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    in that if you are absolutely right I think many are not comfortable with other classes doing more damage and stuff. but it's because I think they still don't understand that each class works differently.

    I feel that making the weapons with better precision makes the game more fun. yes I appreciate that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rasor View Post
    Once again a buff that didn’t improve anything at all


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    Except the damage and the proc. But that isn’t want you wanted is it?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Cinco View Post
    Except the damage and the proc. But that isn’t want you wanted is it?


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    Atleast increase its damage only in zodias portal enemies? Then maybe tanks wouldn't be left out on the most popular map and have all classes earn the same.

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    +1 for buffing the proc damage. We appreciate the try to huff the sword but it isnt that enough to satisfy us as warrior. It doesnt need to be a kraken bow 2.0 but more damage would help us to compete a little bit in those harder maps. Ty!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crankomaniac View Post
    +1 for buffing the proc damage. We appreciate the try to huff the sword but it isnt that enough to satisfy us as warrior. It doesnt need to be a kraken bow 2.0 but more damage would help us to compete a little bit in those harder maps. Ty!
    It should be though. Maybe consider other choices you’re making with your class?

    I have yet to see any feedback that doesn’t insist that the sword be Kraken Bow 2.0.

    A little damage they said. That’s all! LOL


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    good update
    please add an aura for divine arc ring
    and buff rogue ult aimedshot

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    Increase energy drop rates please in hauntlet

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    Any chance u can change new amulet for war hp regen to flat hp?

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    can you guys buff proc damage instead of only buffing the first proc impact damage on kraken sword without any number of increase damage is given? just saying "increased damage done by the first kraken sword proc impact" is very vague statement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ketx View Post
    can you guys buff proc damage instead of only buffing the first proc impact damage on kraken sword without any number of increase damage is given? just saying "increased damage done by the first kraken sword proc impact" is very vague statement.

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    I don’t think this is the right choice but thanks for the suggestion nevertheless.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ketx View Post
    can you guys buff proc damage instead of only buffing the first proc impact damage on kraken sword without any number of increase damage is given? just saying "increased damage done by the first kraken sword proc impact" is very vague statement.

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    It says both base and initial impact increased...not just initial dmg


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    I would love to hear from any Legend on the topic of class rivalry. I’m so very close to the data - the stats and the proc performance… but I don’t have hatred for other classes and nobody excludes me from parties.

    Feel free to start your own topic on this or respond here. It’s clearly the central issue (not appropriate balance, stats and proc performance).


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    Quote Originally Posted by Cinco View Post
    I would love to hear from any Legend on the topic of class rivalry. I’m so very close to the data - the stats and the proc performance… but I don’t have hatred for other classes and nobody excludes me from parties.

    Feel free to start your own topic on this or respond here. It’s clearly the central issue (not appropriate balance, stats and proc performance).


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    I'm pretty sure most of tanks here is asking same thing.
    'Let sword does enough dmg to take phase 1 2 of portal bosses.'

    Not asking same or more dmg as rogue and mage.
    Not asking to dominate lb runs.
    Just enough dmg to make party with people/guildies, with confidence knowing I can take boss parts, without relying on op geared rogue or mage who don't need us.


    Here is my experience yesterday and today.

    When mecha was open, I joined random elite. Usually no one's there. But occasionally I some see some people wants to try then I help them. It takes like 3mins but I don't mind.
    (Side topic, hope you double gold drop here since it physically takes 2~6 times longer than other 2 portals.)

    And just before rahab opens, eke was open alone. I joined random elite. There were a lot of people there. I met at least 5 rogues and mages who just start map and drop boss hp under 10% alone within seconds. But also sometimes all party has only mythics takes 2~3mins too. I don't mind help them finish the map.

    Can I do this with kraken sword+kraken helm+kraken armor+kraken belt+kraken arti + arc sap+h garlic+h tad?
    No. I need Neptaris to do this.

    Even with all kraken armor+belt+arti+Venge+pet aa proc, sword can't do half of mecha or eke.


    E rahab is worse.

    I saw sword buff update and joined elite random. There was another tank with full kraken. We both couldn't do phase 1 to 2 alone. And other's were under geared so they couldn't help.
    Is this right amount of dmg a 'boss killer weapon' should have? 2 tanks with full 81 arcane gears can't help others but need geared mage and rogues to run this map?
    What's the use of kraken sword if neptaris will continue to do more dmg and sword can't do enough dmg to do phase 1 or 2 in endgame portal maps? Isn't it supposed to be the strongest weapon we use in the hardest map?


    Again, I just want sword to do 50-60% of portal boss with all procs stacked. That's all.
    Let us play when op geared rogue/mage friends are offline or hard to find. Let us play with more people and help random party to run difficult maps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cinco View Post
    I would love to hear from any Legend on the topic of class rivalry. I’m so very close to the data - the stats and the proc performance… but I don’t have hatred for other classes and nobody excludes me from parties.

    Feel free to start your own topic on this or respond here. It’s clearly the central issue (not appropriate balance, stats and proc performance).


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    Have you guys tried running solo in elite rahab using war? Oh use a complete krak set and lmk if you guys survived phase 1.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Cinco View Post
    I would love to hear from any Legend on the topic of class rivalry. I’m so very close to the data - the stats and the proc performance… but I don’t have hatred for other classes and nobody excludes me from parties.

    Feel free to start your own topic on this or respond here. It’s clearly the central issue (not appropriate balance, stats and proc performance).


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    (not appropriate balance, stats and proc performance).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cinco View Post
    I would love to hear from any Legend on the topic of class rivalry. I’m so very close to the data - the stats and the proc performance… but I don’t have hatred for other classes and nobody excludes me from parties.

    Feel free to start your own topic on this or respond here. It’s clearly the central issue (not appropriate balance, stats and proc performance).


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    The answer is quite obvious and simple, as a "tank" any instakill kills you.
    Taking Rahakor as an example, he has purely instakill skills.
    With which the armor or the hp you have is practically irrelevant, only the damage matters.
    So how do you could compare with a rogue or mage? If you can't deal the same damage as them, and you die the same way, and in the same place.
    Where is the balance?
    What do you need a tank for?
    Do you still need a tank?
    What is the function of a war? If anything kills you, and your damage is also poor.
    Let's not talk about pvp...

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