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    Default Boss damage and elite damage don't seem to work properly.

    I would like to know if there are any bugs with boss damage stats, it doesn't seem to work properly, me using a low dex set still looks better than my high BD set.
    I tested it on all bosses, and it doesn't seem to work. Which makes me think they have a bug, hope someone can explain to me how ET/BD works now because it's different from how it was.

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    not a dev but probably some bug (not a new thing)

    bd/ed already rusted like other awakes .

    WAS useful during 76 .

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    not bugged its just not that good as it only counts for ur base damage

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    I see a same prob, better we go build full stats than BD/ed now

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    Last I tested, the percentages for elite damage, boss damage, and stacking damage seemed to be additive instead of multiplicative, meaning if I had 20% boss, 20% elite, and 20% stacking damage it would be a 60% damage buff instead of 72.8% buff, but I could be wrong. It's hard to say for sure since damage numbers are random.

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    just build primary stats

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    I feel the same.
    I bought kraken ring that gives better str, dmg, crit and 22bd than my insidious ring but insidious does more dmg on Erahab somehow.
    I'm not sure if bd is actually working too.

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    Same here feels like no impact at all xd

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    Let's say u have 10k damage with full kraken set. You have all ur procs on right now and u reach 90k damage, now what happens is all ur bd and ed awakes are calculated by taking ur base damage (10k). So let's say u have 100% bd, u get +10k damage vs all bosses but then when you're proc'd u still get +10k damage on top of ur 90k (100k damage on boss).
    This means ur 100% bd turns out to be +11% damage only when ur procs are up xd. You will feel the difference of bd and ed without any procs, which you did I bet with mythic set and bow cuz there weren't a lot of damage buff procs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xyv.io View Post
    Let's say u have 10k damage with full kraken set. You have all ur procs on right now and u reach 90k damage, now what happens is all ur bd and ed awakes are calculated by taking ur base damage (10k). So let's say u have 100% bd, u get +10k damage vs all bosses but then when you're proc'd u still get +10k damage on top of ur 90k (100k damage on boss).
    This means ur 100% bd turns out to be +11% damage only when ur procs are up xd. You will feel the difference of bd and ed without any procs, which you did I bet with mythic set and bow cuz there weren't a lot of damage buff procs.
    If bd and ed calculating on our base dmg and not proc dmg then how we used to deal so much dmg back then(when proc stacking was a thing) in elite valley gates with bd/ed awake gears?

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    Seems to not work the boss damage !
    The elite damage I don't think IF ever worked.

    KRAKEN ARMOR PROC + KRAKEN GUN PROC NO PET
    With 5100 damage with 30%bd +10% ed I see max number on infested 900k
    And with 5200 damage with 136%bd +25% ed I see max number on infected 1300k.
    To me seems the devs to forget that 100% boss damage is 2X damage
    I tested on infected because it was the fastest map for testing. (The numbers of damage is what I see on screen, not on main character view)

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    Quote Originally Posted by gunstick View Post
    If bd and ed calculating on our base dmg and not proc dmg then how we used to deal so much dmg back then(when proc stacking was a thing) in elite valley gates with bd/ed awake gears?

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    Because back then Duggar bow gave no damage buff, so bd and ed was strong af. Also sunken armor proc was super short making you not rely completely on the armor proc unlike we do right now.

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    That was interesting to know...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xyv.io View Post
    Because back then Duggar bow gave no damage buff, so bd and ed was strong af. Also sunken armor proc was super short making you not rely completely on the armor proc unlike we do right now.
    As i remember during evg days bd awaken heavily rely on procs since they don't have big base dmg due to lacking %primary

    People with 150+ bd have 1.3-1-4k primary
    So they heavily rely on skratch staff + ebon combo for dmg

    (Mage perspective bd%) i had friends using bd meta back then so I've seen their actual stats

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    I was testing on Elite Rahabkor both sets the difference between DEX and BD is insane, even with 250% BD and 95% ET on proc (without AA) , my set dex is still much better.

    I would like to know if this is a bug, if BD doesn't work anymore it should be explicit so that other players don't spend millions of gold on items that won't help at all.

    I expect some answers from the Dev, in case BD really doesn't work anymore I can focus on what really works.

    Sorry for the English, I hope you guys can understand.

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    Someone created an ultimate 300% boss damage set. It ripped the bosses dead in one charged kraken bow + armor shot no additional shots fired. Shortly after, boss damage and elite damage mysteriously only works off base damage. Instead of 70-80K damage under proc multiplied by 3 to be over 240K, it's now 100-110K max. That's why most people after proc with kraken dags, they switch to a high base damage set like the Zaarus set and do incredible damage. They haven't nerfed set switching at least.
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    @cinco @devs please confirm T-T bd not doing dmg as it used to

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    I don't know about main stats mythic sets because I never use them , but my equipment has 22% to all stats, and my not boss, and boss equipment is the same type with different awakenings.(all 81lvl arcanes) (is same stats, same jewelry only different awakenings)
    Is hard to see the numbers on my screen when fighting bosses, so I have make 2 videos to watch them multiple times,
    from total 40% of bd +ed to 160% bd +ed I see +50% only to damage .
    I write this again because I have make a post about it and get from devs the know answer that everything works just fine and nothing have changed to bd.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mitsooos View Post
    I don't know about main stats mythic sets because I never use them , but my equipment has 22% to all stats, and my not boss, and boss equipment is the same type with different awakenings.(all 81lvl arcanes) (is same stats, same jewelry only different awakenings)
    Is hard to see the numbers on my screen when fighting bosses, so I have make 2 videos to watch them multiple times,
    from total 40% of bd +ed to 160% bd +ed I see +50% only to damage .
    I write this again because I have make a post about it and get from devs the know answer that everything works just fine and nothing have changed to bd.
    Just read what xyv.io wrote...bd/ed is only affecting your base dmg (elixirs, procs dont count) meanwhile stats awakes r amped by any dmg%, with such high amount of procs and elixirs/oils available nowadays, going for stats is just way better, but its not bad to have some bd/ed in the mix

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