Normal Rahab not nerfed again? Elite Zodias maps gives similar gold to E Raha?

[AgentStonoga]

Why is normal rahabkor not nerfed again and you only nerfed elite? Me (1155gl) can still get same amount of gold on normal rahab (50-70k) per run, but elite one was nerfed by about 30-33% I think (68-106k per run now).
Still, if you have a good pt (war with polaris and fast mini killer) then elite should be a bit better (but difference between elite and normal now is too small considering how fast and easy are runs on normal raha and it's almost impossible to fail them) but if your pt is weak then better think about farming normal rahab.
But... I even seen better players claiming that elite rahab is equal to normal rahab now, which is unfair.
Also, if only portals got a nerf it means that we can farm exactly the same amount of gold in Elite Maps like Sunken or Sanctuary. Remember that these maps are OPEN 24/7 and for rahab we have to wait until portal is opened - and the amount of gold we can farm in 1h is either same or similar.
At least you could give timed raha same gold drop as elite rahab had before nerf - this rahab is harder than standard elite more and having higher gold drop here sounds reasonable.
@devs

[recilencia123]

Why is normal rahabkor not nerfed again and you only nerfed elite? Me (1155gl) can still get same amount of gold on normal rahab (50-70k) per run, but elite one was nerfed by about 30-33% I think (68-106k per run now).
Still, if you have a good pt (war with polaris and fast mini killer) then elite should be a bit better (but difference between elite and normal now is too small considering how fast and easy are runs on normal raha and it's almost impossible to fail them) but if your pt is weak then better think about farming normal rahab.
But... I even seen better players claiming that elite rahab is equal to normal rahab now, which is unfair.
Also, if only portals got a nerf it means that we can farm exactly the same amount of gold in Elite Maps like Sunken or Sanctuary. Remember that these maps are OPEN 24/7 and for rahab we have to wait until portal is opened - and the amount of gold we can farm in 1h is either same or similar.
At least you could give timed raha same gold drop as elite rahab had before nerf - this rahab is harder than wlite more and having higher gold drop here sounds reasonable.
@devs

-1 everithing good rn


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[AgentStonoga]

-1 everithing good rn


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You're not even farming in elite zodias and portal maps, invalid opinion.
Nerfing only elite portals and keeping normal portals and elite zodoas same (and in overall gold drop is similar in all maps) is unfair.

[recilencia123]

You're not even farming in elite zodias and portal maps, invalid opinion.

how do u know? jajajaja wdf xD nerf portal is good for inflation, u do great job devs


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[AgentStonoga]

how do u know? jajajaja wdf xD nerf portal is good for inflation, u do great job devs


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I know, because I see your ign and I never saw you farming.
And if you think thar nerfing elite portal will do anything to inflation then you're wrong. There are no gold sinks (unless 2m gold for 5 plat worth of pull is a gold sink lmao), the amount of gold will always rise and rise, even if portal maps would be closed forever.
From logical (might be hard for you) point of view, why normal portal maps are (in total) close or similar to total gold drop next to elite portals? I think that elite portal should have noticeably better drop per 1h than normal one, because it's E L I T E. And if only elite portal maps got nerfed then why elite sunken and sanctuary give now similar drop to elite rahabkor? These maps are open 24/7 and for rahab we have to wait until it open.
If STS are nerfing gold drop then they should nerf from all maps, not only elite portals.

[recilencia123]

I know, because I see your ign and I never saw you farming.
And if you think thar nerfing elite portal will do anything to inflation then you're wrong. There are no gold sinks (unless 2m gold for 5 plat worth of pull is a gold sink lmao), the amount of gold will always rise and rise, even if portal maps would be closed forever.
From logical (might be hard for you) point of view, why normal portal maps are (in total) close or similar to total gold drop next to elite portals? I think that elite portal should have noticeably better drop per 1h than normal one, because it's E L I T E. And if only elite portal maps got nerfed then why elite sunken and sanctuary give now similar drop to elite rahabkor? These maps are open 24/7 and for rahab we have to wait until it open.
If STS are nerfing gold drop then they should nerf from all maps, not only elite portals.

ahh i know u spend loot in ur gl set but its ok little boy, sometimes people lose sometimes win, in this case u lose xD so just go ahead and have fun and try to be more 'logical' and guess what will be the next decision of devs :3


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[mwmbgs]

normal nerfed too

[Beanecacan]

how do u know? jajajaja wdf xD nerf portal is good for inflation, u do great job devs


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Inflation wont stop and prices wont drop u big brain boy

[recilencia123]

Inflation wont stop and prices wont drop u big brain boy

if u sayy man xD


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[Beanecacan]

if u sayy man xD


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Have u even know what is inflation and how it works ? I think no

[SusAF]

Why do we have to fight among ourself ? Like please think for both sides .... 1000 gl sets arent cheap and even to make benefit out of it players needs to first farm the amount they spent on it with ratio to the least time it takes to farm that particular amount . Then if normal maps and elite portal maps and elite normal maps would have SAME drop rate wouldnt that mean the era for f2p to even able to farm gold to buy something which isnt like affordable without no lifing the game ?

Inflation is done by community , nothing to do with amount of increase in gold , when no nerf was there prices were actually lesser than what they currently are after every possible gold farm nerf .

Farmers also spend time for gold not like merching( skilled based thing just giving example ) , price manipulation , scamming which is quite fluent currently .

So yeah respect everyones opinion , dont jump upon players for their views . Just end it on -1 or direct your views towards devs rather than attempting to murder each other .

[AgentStonoga]

Why do we have to fight among ourself ? Like please think for both sides .... 1000 gl sets arent cheap and even to make benefit out of it players needs to first farm the amount they spent on it with ratio to the least time it takes to farm that particular amount . Then if normal maps and elite portal maps and elite normal maps would have SAME drop rate wouldnt that mean the era for f2p to even able to farm gold to buy something which isnt like affordable without no lifing the game ?

Inflation is done by community , nothing to do with amount of increase in gold , when no nerf was there prices were actually lesser than what they currently are after every possible gold farm nerf .

Farmers also spend time for gold not like merching( skilled based thing just giving example ) , price manipulation , scamming which is quite fluent currently .

So yeah respect everyones opinion , dont jump upon players for their views . Just end it on -1 or direct your views towards devs rather than attempting to murder each other .

AL since 81 cap was always a f2p game, people who are screaming that AL is p2w are either the ones who don't farm (grinding is a part of all mmorpg games, these games aren't Adventure Capitalist) or the ones who just can't play (i see how these people are playing and I always want to laugh/rage, many of them don't even listen to advices, so there's nothing you can do with that).
Same drop in all maps decreases competitivity and motivation. What's the point of waiting few days for elite portal if you can farm similar amount of gold in map which is open 24/7? What's the point of upgrading your ms/dmg/gl gear if you don't get any benefits from it, since you can farm similar amount of gold in easier maps?
Inflation is done by higher amount of gold in circulation, which allows people to offer more for items. For example, let's say that jupiter aura was 700m and finding a buyer took several days. After 1-2 weeks of people farming gold in reworked maps, you got 5 buyers for your auto price. What's the point of selling it for 700m, if you actually got 5 people who can pay that much? Obviously you'll sell it to a buyer who'll outbid other buyers.
Nerfs aren't changing anything. You could even nerf all maps by 70% and it wouldn't stop inflation, because there are no gold sinks in AL. We'll always farm much more gold than we'll spend. We're probably not spending even 1/10 of the amount of gold we farm.
Price manipulation and scamming has nothing to do with that.

[Arkauna99]

AL since 81 cap was always a f2p game, people who are screaming that AL is p2w are either the ones who don't farm (grinding is a part of all mmorpg games, these games aren't Adventure Capitalist) or the ones who just can't play (i see how these people are playing and I always want to laugh/rage, many of them don't even listen to advices, so there's nothing you can do with that).
Same drop in all maps decreases competitivity and motivation. What's the point of waiting few days for elite portal if you can farm similar amount of gold in map which is open 24/7? What's the point of upgrading your ms/dmg/gl gear if you don't get any benefits from it, since you can farm similar amount of gold in easier maps?
Inflation is done by higher amount of gold in circulation, which allows people to offer more for items. For example, let's say that jupiter aura was 700m and finding a buyer took several days. After 1-2 weeks of people farming gold in reworked maps, you got 5 buyers for your auto price. What's the point of selling it for 700m, if you actually got 5 people who can pay that much? Obviously you'll sell it to a buyer who'll outbid other buyers.
Nerfs aren't changing anything. You could even nerf all maps by 70% and it wouldn't stop inflation, because there are no gold sinks in AL. We'll always farm much more gold than we'll spend. We're probably not spending even 1/10 of the amount of gold we farm.
Price manipulation and scamming has nothing to do with that.

Bumping this post because this guy understands this game econ + inflation better than Cinco does, apparently.
Worth the bump
Cinco been quiet lately too ... Strange. Almost like he knows his decisions and recent changes are unsupported and widely disliked. "It had to be done" was his excuse for nerfing rahab. LOL. "It must be done" "sometimes these things r necessary"

Okay Darth Vader, take your dark side somewhere else and give me pack F2p inventory slots, stinky.

[Kinggg]

-1, the war with inflation is the best for the game.

[AgentStonoga]

-1, the war with inflation is the best for the game.

Read again whole thread - main discussion (tomed raha is an addition) is about normal raha/eiite zodias maps being close in farmed amount of gold next to elite raha, which may suggest nerfing them.
Anyway, nerfing gold drop even from all maps won't do anything to inflation.

[Cinco]

Both Elite and Normal Zodias maps (not just portals) should have been reduced by ~15%

I'll look into it. Probably just missed some data.

[AgentStonoga]

Both Elite and Normal Zodias maps (not just portals) should have been reduced by ~15%

I'll look into it. Probably just missed some data.

Portals should've been nerfed by 15% too? Because for now, Elite Rahabkor is closer to 30% nerf than 15% (especially chests). @Cinco

[LichKing1]

Portals should've been nerfed by 15% too? Because for now, Elite Rahabkor is closer to 30% nerf than 15% (especially chests). @Cinco

yh its for sure 30%, and i agree all maps should be nerfed equally no matter the number

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[Cinco]

yh its for sure 30%, and i agree all maps should be nerfed equally no matter the number

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For sure it's 15% - but there is still a wide range of min / max.

[Cinco]

Portals should've been nerfed by 15% too? Because for now, Elite Rahabkor is closer to 30% nerf than 15% (especially chests). @Cinco

No it's 15%