LB players events and multiples accounts unfair
It is very unfair that a player with several accounts can be in the lb repeatedly, leaving other players out of competition for not having an equipment of t of 2-3b, sts please limit the use of multi accounts in events by IP. thanks!
last 2 events been this way!!!!!
Sry but Cinco alrdy said its fair and that they wont be doing this, every event is the same discussion and not just events (timed lb for example)
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I could have taken many spots on Temple Leaderboard but i chose to not to oppress players(Mainly due to the trash rewards, not caring). The leaderboards have been Cultured to the 'Elite' players who are either "A plat buyer themselves or are completely integrated into that system". This will never change. @Dev? Lol
So true lol, i dont think this will change tho. Its happen for years in this kind of event
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It's not that we don't care, but we can't treat all accounts from the same IP as the same person (family members, internet cafes, etc.). We can't even treat all accounts from the same device as the same person (family members sharing a device).
-ALS
people could use other accounts too(different email) if they ban alt accounts
I got a very very very good feeling that what you describe fits into the smallest pocket in al history..Originally Posted by asommers
I wonder your response if i say that since you have been active on forums again( after a long afk) the game has become very much an 'Elitist' mentality. Care to counter with something relevant to your current players? I could easily mistake your arrival publicly with something internal.
Who owns sts btw, would be good feedback.
1-) The items can be registered to that account separately for each leaderboard. of course items are still tradeable. Just not allowed to use on especially used leaderboard run with even same accounts slot characters while same LB still active. so it helps fixing the issue people using alts / friends with same gears and filling out whole leaderboard.
2-) The same players can fill the LB even without needing another slot / alt. all they have to do just changing party members, to fix this most healthy way seems converting leaderboard sytem to only solo. in the other hand if team up %100 necessary, not allow the players run LB if they are in ranking already.
this suggestions seems too much complicated but cant figure anything else easier that really helps.
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Sorry, we won't be tracking individual items. Players are free to trade items.
Now this is an important distinction separate from OP's original point. If person A using character B plays with 10 different teams and has 10 of the top group scores, I agree they shouldn't be getting just 10 copies of the rewards. However, I do think it's ok if person A was on the leaderboard multiple times with character B and character C even if the rewards are tradable. We'll need to discuss this internally.
Lastly, we probably need to figure out what we want to do these types of keep-highest-score events vs. accumulate-points events because they are not conducive to the type of leaderboard play most players expect.
-ALS
@assomers maybe just make the LB rewards not tradable just for these high score type events? so there is no incentive to get multiple spots on lb
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asommers, we do need a separation for how u treat keep-highest-score events.
ive read every argument that the players getting alts on the solo lbs is unfair and all devs say is its fair for the players who put in effort in the gear.
They put in thier effort and have scored one of the top10 places. This already proves that they have the best gear and best skill. Why doesnt multiple alt in keep-highest-score events come under griefing/alt farming.
If the player at #13 place, if all alts were removed was supposed to be #8th place then isnt it worser for this player. And the person with 2 or more alts, if reported for griefing should be punished with a ban for the duration of the event. The guy in #13 did try for the lb and is one of the top10 player but was pushed out because of alts.
We want 10 distinct players to be rewarded the top10. Alts do promote competitiveness by pushing the lb points from 7m to 11m but its not fair. Alts are same person with 4 different accounts/characters passing his gears and getting the spot in LB.
Lets consider accumulate-points events, do u think any one person in the top10 would go for 2 accounts in the top10 spots? they wouldnt/cant. They wont have time to push. And 10 different players who put in effort get the top10 rewards. even if the player at #10 puts in the least effort, he is still one of the top10 players. this is fair. im sure nobody has complaints with this.
Why not the same for the keep-highest-score events. The separation(between accumulate-points events vs keep-highest-score events) we ask is for devs to allow the distinct players to be top10.
Since we as players are not able to restrict the alts, we come to devs to make it fair for all. And u guys help, by restricting the dark bombs, restricting fish ellix. this is done to make the ground even. Make the ground equal so that everyone has the chance for top10 not for every alt to have a chance.
Restrict alts from same account and alts from same person with different emails/logins.
When u say temple is for the most skilled players, i would expect the winners to be 10 different people with thier own gear. but its mostly just the 4 people occupying 10 spots with the same items which was shared. Items are fine, its just the alts. These are 4 of the best players but it doesnt make it 10 players. Removing the alts, there are others who deserved top10 because they are top10 best players.
Dont say its fair for the player(with 3 alts) who spent a lot of gold on gears. for the efforts he put in, he already scored top10 and everyone knows how skilled he is just from the highest points he scored. Huge difference in points from others already proves he's got good strategy, ping, skills and items.
10 distinct players from different IP at top10 is fair and is wat most of the player base wants(except the ones who do run alts).
This can be done, just restrict the alts from same account. And If there are people in the top10 who get reported for the alt farming/griefing then the support can take a look if they have alts from same IP/device and remove the lower scored ones and let only one stay. or if they cant remove the names then just remove the ranking except for the highest one. #13 serial number can be #9 on the top10 and recieve the top10 reward as he is rightfully one of the top10 players.
Leaderboards ain't charity.
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if there was no alts allowed, the difference between #1 and #10 would be so big in terms of gear and skill that it would be unfair they both get same prizes
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and thats the opinion of players with alts
so say in easterevent, #1 was 40m points, #10 was 26m points, #10 getting the reward was unfair?
in accumulate-points events, thats the difference between being a #1 player who spent tons of gold on energy/portal items and time running event/op gear which helps u clear map at a faster time and a #10 player who was able to do just better than #11.
it should be the same for highest-score event too. #1 with 21m points who was the best and 10th distinct player with 8m points who is just better than 11th distinct player.
Lb isnt a charity, so why allow alts on lb to take 5 spots out of 10.
Youre right, lb ain’t charity, no one is saying that it should be easy. It just doesn’t reflect what leaderboard should. The thing is that this exploiting of multiple alts is just really wrong. It doesn’t make any sense, why #1 player should be able to take all other places.
Develepers basically made all these top10 rewards for #1 player of each class, which will only lead into price manipulation and hoarding straight away after event ends.
If they made only #1 place reward, it would be better at this point.
Name me one sport with “leaderboard system”, where contestants are able to take multiple spots within the ranking. Imagine #1 javelin thrower also getting 2nd and 3rd place, only because all of his throws were better than other athletes’. Would it make sense?
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now imagine all other throwers r amateurs and u give top spots to them, u cant compare events in AL with real life, top athletes go thro some sort of qualifying while we dont
I have run countless lb events and i can tell u from experience that if temple events didnt have alts allowed, the top10 would be way too easy
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it is also when greed takes over… They believe that they deserve more. shameless
So basically only #1 is a “pro” and others are “amateurs”? Sure, but the leaderboard is still about top10 players, doesn’t matter how you call them. “u give top spots to them”? No. That’s what they achieved based on their perfomance, you wouldn’t normally care if you were already #1.
I respect that it takes more effort to be first than last, but giving the first guy 10x the same reward, that was meant for others? That’s just wrong.
It wouldn’t be easy, it would just be fair (and how it is meant to be). This only shows the greediness from your side. There is nothing bad about letting the 10th guy be 10th, since you are far ahead lol.
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