LB players events and multiples accounts unfair
It is very unfair that a player with several accounts can be in the lb repeatedly, leaving other players out of competition for not having an equipment of t of 2-3b, sts please limit the use of multi accounts in events by IP. thanks!
last 2 events been this way!!!!!
Sry but Cinco alrdy said its fair and that they wont be doing this, every event is the same discussion and not just events (timed lb for example)
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I could have taken many spots on Temple Leaderboard but i chose to not to oppress players(Mainly due to the trash rewards, not caring). The leaderboards have been Cultured to the 'Elite' players who are either "A plat buyer themselves or are completely integrated into that system". This will never change. @Dev? Lol
So true lol, i dont think this will change tho. Its happen for years in this kind of event
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It's not that we don't care, but we can't treat all accounts from the same IP as the same person (family members, internet cafes, etc.). We can't even treat all accounts from the same device as the same person (family members sharing a device).
-ALS
I got a very very very good feeling that what you describe fits into the smallest pocket in al history..Originally Posted by asommers
I wonder your response if i say that since you have been active on forums again( after a long afk) the game has become very much an 'Elitist' mentality. Care to counter with something relevant to your current players? I could easily mistake your arrival publicly with something internal.
Who owns sts btw, would be good feedback.
1-) The items can be registered to that account separately for each leaderboard. of course items are still tradeable. Just not allowed to use on especially used leaderboard run with even same accounts slot characters while same LB still active. so it helps fixing the issue people using alts / friends with same gears and filling out whole leaderboard.
2-) The same players can fill the LB even without needing another slot / alt. all they have to do just changing party members, to fix this most healthy way seems converting leaderboard sytem to only solo. in the other hand if team up %100 necessary, not allow the players run LB if they are in ranking already.
this suggestions seems too much complicated but cant figure anything else easier that really helps.
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Sorry, we won't be tracking individual items. Players are free to trade items.
Now this is an important distinction separate from OP's original point. If person A using character B plays with 10 different teams and has 10 of the top group scores, I agree they shouldn't be getting just 10 copies of the rewards. However, I do think it's ok if person A was on the leaderboard multiple times with character B and character C even if the rewards are tradable. We'll need to discuss this internally.
Lastly, we probably need to figure out what we want to do these types of keep-highest-score events vs. accumulate-points events because they are not conducive to the type of leaderboard play most players expect.
-ALS
why cannot do like if same name have more than 1 name in lb then he will received only 1 lb item depend on his higher score.
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Is it not possible for u guys to track whether a player is just a part of 1 account with multiple character slots? I think the most common way these players transfer their items is via stash and not necessarily in trade windows to transfer items to a whole different account with different email... not really about IP address
With the rumours and numbers of players sharing their story of how they got banned after gifting items to other players, i dont think those LB players in this topic would take that risk just to be in LB when they can just stash their items and transfer it to another toon in their account.
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thats good too but, i think it would be much better if rewards were just untradeable, not only for fairness but also for the sake of economy
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Agree, this might not make sense but i think we need more genuine LB runners and not just "gold-drive" runners
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people could use other accounts too(different email) if they ban alt accounts
@assomers maybe just make the LB rewards not tradable just for these high score type events? so there is no incentive to get multiple spots on lb
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and thats the opinion of players with alts
+1 on this also, making temple lb rewards tradeable was a huge mistake, now this orcfire lb set will probably cost 1b at least, and a player can have several sets from multiple alts he ran lb on, if 1 warrior ran group lb with 4 people, he gets 4x these rewards, very unfair in my opinion but making these rewards untradable will 100% fix the problem (just gauntlet rewards, other event lbs let them still be reward - tradeable like halloween, winter etc) even these events are kinda unfair lol, where some people tie with each other to get an extra reward for #11 up to even #15, but its still not as bad as gauntlet events
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asommers, we do need a separation for how u treat keep-highest-score events.
ive read every argument that the players getting alts on the solo lbs is unfair and all devs say is its fair for the players who put in effort in the gear.
They put in thier effort and have scored one of the top10 places. This already proves that they have the best gear and best skill. Why doesnt multiple alt in keep-highest-score events come under griefing/alt farming.
If the player at #13 place, if all alts were removed was supposed to be #8th place then isnt it worser for this player. And the person with 2 or more alts, if reported for griefing should be punished with a ban for the duration of the event. The guy in #13 did try for the lb and is one of the top10 player but was pushed out because of alts.
We want 10 distinct players to be rewarded the top10. Alts do promote competitiveness by pushing the lb points from 7m to 11m but its not fair. Alts are same person with 4 different accounts/characters passing his gears and getting the spot in LB.
Lets consider accumulate-points events, do u think any one person in the top10 would go for 2 accounts in the top10 spots? they wouldnt/cant. They wont have time to push. And 10 different players who put in effort get the top10 rewards. even if the player at #10 puts in the least effort, he is still one of the top10 players. this is fair. im sure nobody has complaints with this.
Why not the same for the keep-highest-score events. The separation(between accumulate-points events vs keep-highest-score events) we ask is for devs to allow the distinct players to be top10.
Since we as players are not able to restrict the alts, we come to devs to make it fair for all. And u guys help, by restricting the dark bombs, restricting fish ellix. this is done to make the ground even. Make the ground equal so that everyone has the chance for top10 not for every alt to have a chance.
Restrict alts from same account and alts from same person with different emails/logins.
When u say temple is for the most skilled players, i would expect the winners to be 10 different people with thier own gear. but its mostly just the 4 people occupying 10 spots with the same items which was shared. Items are fine, its just the alts. These are 4 of the best players but it doesnt make it 10 players. Removing the alts, there are others who deserved top10 because they are top10 best players.
Dont say its fair for the player(with 3 alts) who spent a lot of gold on gears. for the efforts he put in, he already scored top10 and everyone knows how skilled he is just from the highest points he scored. Huge difference in points from others already proves he's got good strategy, ping, skills and items.
10 distinct players from different IP at top10 is fair and is wat most of the player base wants(except the ones who do run alts).
This can be done, just restrict the alts from same account. And If there are people in the top10 who get reported for the alt farming/griefing then the support can take a look if they have alts from same IP/device and remove the lower scored ones and let only one stay. or if they cant remove the names then just remove the ranking except for the highest one. #13 serial number can be #9 on the top10 and recieve the top10 reward as he is rightfully one of the top10 players.
Leaderboards ain't charity.
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it is also when greed takes over… They believe that they deserve more. shameless
if there was no alts allowed, the difference between #1 and #10 would be so big in terms of gear and skill that it would be unfair they both get same prizes
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