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    Quote Originally Posted by asommers View Post
    It's not that we don't care, but we can't treat all accounts from the same IP as the same person (family members, internet cafes, etc.). We can't even treat all accounts from the same device as the same person (family members sharing a device).

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    why cannot do like if same name have more than 1 name in lb then he will received only 1 lb item depend on his higher score.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalyptis View Post
    So basically only #1 is a “pro” and others are “amateurs”? Sure, but the leaderboard is still about top10 players, doesn’t matter how you call them. “u give top spots to them”? No. That’s what they achieved based on their perfomance, you wouldn’t normally care if you were already #1.

    I respect that it takes more effort to be first than last, but giving the first guy 10x the same reward, that was meant for others? That’s just wrong.

    It wouldn’t be easy, it would just be fair (and how it is meant to be). This only shows the greediness from your side. There is nothing bad about letting the 10th guy be 10th, since you are far ahead lol.
    if u were competing u would understand, for example during temple, apox had 5 alts in top10 and a few more under, it didnt stop me or a few other players who managed to score almost same pts and be top10, these events r designed in a way that theres an upper limit every player can reach and if u didnt score it, u literally dont deserve the prize in my eyes, cuz of the way waves scaled
    if prizes were scaling per each spot, then for sure dont allow alts

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    Logically, how would the devs even fix this? Instead of asking them to make lb 1 slot per person give them ideas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Encryptions View Post
    Logically, how would the devs even fix this? Instead of asking them to make lb 1 slot per person give them ideas.
    I know it is hard to 100% solve the problem, but anything that would make it at least slightly better would help.

    “Highest score per class on one account” would help only temporalily, until those ppl would create new accounts, but if combined with “bound rewards” on temple-like events, it might solve the manipulation and greediness.. hopefully
    This doesn’t seem to be a bad idea to me, but surely someone might have more effective ideas.

    In short words, you would need a new account to be in the same class leaderboard twice, bound reward would do the rest,..

    What do you think?
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    Quote Originally Posted by asommers View Post
    If person A using character B plays with 10 different teams and has 10 of the top group scores, I agree they shouldn't be getting just 10 copies of the rewards.
    Confirmed that a single character on multiple spots on the same leaderboard will only receive one set of rewards for their highest rank, so this isn't an issue.

    I'll let the thread continue a bit and see what we want to do, if anything.

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    Could make the rewards be received via stash and make only one of those rewards chests possible to receive per account. Might be a compromise because having multiple accs on lb then has the benefit of making the rewards more rare by decreasing the number of items while avoiding price manipulation due monopoly of one person. Probably only useful if rewards are bound.

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    Treat lb runner characters as hardcore inventory for the duration that they exist on the lb
    Meaning no gear can go out of that character

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    Making bound rewards won't stop people and making their inventory untradeable would only cause people to not run until the end of the event which defeats the purpose of an event.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Encryptions View Post
    Making bound rewards won't stop people and making their inventory untradeable would only cause people to not run until the end of the event which defeats the purpose of an event.
    Making bound is still better than nothing, in this case.

    Untradeable invetory is too much, since people like to buy/sell gear even during events
    I like what Quaset said, feel like it is a good compromise
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    But it won't change anything making the rewards bound.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Encryptions View Post
    But it won't change anything making the rewards bound.

    It will change the manipulation and greed behind it. I’m sick of it.

    https://youtu.be/fIQ_wWByB_0
    That’s just not okay lol, or you think otherwise?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalyptis View Post
    It will change the manipulation and greed behind it. I’m sick of it.
    Isn't the purpose of stopping people from getting more than 1 spot to allow multiple people to also get a chance at lb? There is no manipulation or greed, if you spend over 1bil on gears not only do you need gears but you need to know how to play with strategy in order to even get a spot. Any other games I have played no one says anything about these situations, people actually respect people who can get lb multiple spots though AL maybe 100x easier.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Encryptions View Post
    Isn't the purpose of stopping people from getting more than 1 spot to allow multiple people to also get a chance at lb? There is no manipulation or greed, if you spend over 1bil on gears not only do you need gears but you need to know how to play with strategy in order to even get a spot. Any other games I have played no one says anything about these situations, people actually respect people who can get lb multiple spots though AL maybe 100x easier.
    Yes, that is the main purpose. But there is greed and manipulation from some of those players who take top10 places with alts, believe it or not. The fact that rewards are tradeable is a huge motivation for them to exploit it even more. It is a complicated problem, what is your idea to help this situation tho?

    PS: haven’t played any other game, where #1 player would be able to take lb rewards from 2nd,3rd,4th.. spot, sorry. I find it stupid
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    I don't have an idea, I am for the multiple spots on lb.

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    That’s what I thought.

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    maybe… if possible, just check if there are LB accounts that are using same devices to play… if yes then consider it as 1 player

    if the account is another player, he/she should have a different devices.

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    Quote Originally Posted by exclusion View Post
    maybe… if possible, just check if there are LB accounts that are using same devices to play… if yes then consider it as 1 player

    if the account is another player, he/she should have a different devices.
    This is good

    Non tradable rewards
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    For events, one person taking up multiple spots is a little bit...even if they worked for it.
    Also, regarding the events of accumulation/high score. High scores like this current event should definitely not be 2 weeks long. 2 separate weeks would be ok. 2 weeks for ONE high score seems excessive.
    Accumulation, what you guys are doing with separate weeks is good as well. Keep up the great work!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalyptis View Post
    That’s what I thought.

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    I shouldn't come up with an idea to go against something I am siding with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalyptis View Post
    It will change the manipulation and greed behind it. I’m sick of it.

    https://youtu.be/fIQ_wWByB_0
    That’s just not okay lol, or you think otherwise?
    yes i agree this is very unfair, these people have 3k dex + with full kraken, ms, and full everything, other people with less stats and compatibility should have a chance to run lb

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