Thoughts on nerfing Hyperos gun proc and Curse Skill

**Ezekieya** · 07-06-2023, 12:11 PM

This topic is centered pve wise, specifically erahab farming. And I know this will get a lot of hate from mage mains, but this has to be said.

If the purpose of the buff on rahab is to get all classes to work together in that portal, then sad to say it didn’t work.

I am a very decent warrior. I built my character like a rogue with 100% crit chance and 85% crit dmg and I am only able to do 50% of lb orrick hp in 27 secs with my best combo and full damage elixir (after lb buff). I used to be able to melt erahab hp full health without redline, now with my best combo and full dmg elixir, I can only do 30-35% hp of erahab. (Rogues are almost the same)

Mages can do 4 secs solo lb orrick. That’s phase 1 done erahab now easily for them solo wise with hyperos proc and curse skill.

What’s the point of playing warrior class if mage can be tanky and do more damage? The class discrimination worsened after this update. Most of my warrior friends are planning on switching if catacomb arrives and warriors are not needed. Hell some already left the game already.

The only thing good about this update is that it fixed the gold exploit farm that some players are abusing in rahab and is causing inflation, but overall, this is some sloppy work from sts.

Edit: Now the best place to farm gold I heard is elite sanc and sunken or zodias gauntlet. Normal rahab is old erahab hp with worse gl drops.

**Ilove_Poopoo** · 07-06-2023, 02:13 PM

You claim that this thread is mainly for Erahab, but why would you farm the map anymore when you also say that it has the worst gold drops?

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**Beanecacan** · 07-06-2023, 02:34 PM

U and ur warrior friends are just bad

**Ezekieya** · 07-06-2023, 04:57 PM

Originally Posted by Ilove_Poopoo

You claim that this thread is mainly for Erahab, but why would you farm the map anymore when you also say that it has the worst gold drops?

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What? No, that’s not what I said. Look at the title of the thread.

And I said normal rahab feels like the old erahab hp with worser gold drops.

**Ezekieya** · 07-06-2023, 05:02 PM

Originally Posted by Beanecacan

U and ur warrior friends are just bad

I found a mage main.

**Oawaoebi** · 07-06-2023, 05:08 PM

I don’t know 1 mage who uses curse on mobs to make them kill easier.

Each class got the same skill with curse goes shadow bomb and vengeful blood. All 3 are helping the team to deal more damage. Increases damage taken by 10% 20% if fully buffed. Where is the problem? When I curse Ali as warrior benefit from it. Only 1 mage with curse needed on boss. No mage uses it for the 3 mobs on 4m radius 10m and 8 mobs in full skill.

Idk why you complain about a skill that benefits you the same as others.

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**Ezekieya** · 07-06-2023, 05:28 PM

Originally Posted by Oawaoebi

I don’t know 1 mage who uses curse on mobs to make them kill easier.

Each class got the same skill with curse goes shadow bomb and vengeful blood. All 3 are helping the team to deal more damage. Increases damage taken by 10% 20% if fully buffed. Where is the problem? When I curse Ali as warrior benefit from it. Only 1 mage with curse needed on boss. No mage uses it for the 3 mobs on 4m radius 10m and 8 mobs in full skill.

Idk why you complain about a skill that benefits you the same as others.

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I see a lot of mages who uses curse skills on both bosses and mobs, it literally shreds them.

Shadow bomb and VB =/= curse skill.
Curse skill is many more times more powerful.

The issue here is that a well-kitted mage can solo erahab without any issue compared to the other classes. Making it irrelevant to have other classes in your pt unless you’re doing zodias gauntlet. Rogues have better dot and procs compared to wars so they get invited to pts but wars? Forget it. Our kraken procs sucks.

**Ezekieya** · 07-06-2023, 05:46 PM

I bet 90% of the players here won't switch to warrior in today's state of the game. If you do, let me know how it is. It's a disheartening class pve-wise.

**Oawaoebi** · 07-06-2023, 06:04 PM

You talking about endgame here. Look at otvfrom few years ago. When 10% didn’t affected anything. The 50 str boost was op now it’s little buff. Curse was never actively known as op skill since zodias came out. Andrew used it in evg, but it wasn’t a known skill as must have in setup.

I totally agree with u that reducing the dmg income from 10% to 5% is enough, but then it means on lower levels where it used to be balanced the skill gets wrecked and becomes the worst of all.

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**Msrobinsonal** · 07-06-2023, 06:45 PM

You got rejected from a party, now you want all mages nerfed...cool but what about that 6x str ultimate? It shreds bosses so it should get nerfed too right?

**Ezekieya** · 07-06-2023, 07:05 PM

Originally Posted by Msrobinsonal

You got rejected from a party, now you want all mages nerfed...cool but what about that 6x str ultimate? It shreds bosses so it should get nerfed too right?

It’s not just me, most regular warriors get rejected and discriminated regardless if they are op or not. See, you guys don’t understand that because you’re probably one of those arrogant mages and rogues. Go ahead and play warrior class and see for yourself what I mean. It’s hella toxic.

Sure, nerf our ultimate too. We barely get to use it anyways. As a matter of fact, take our other skills as well. If that’s what it takes to get our skills updated and improved then Im all
For it.

**Beanecacan** · 07-06-2023, 11:31 PM

Originally Posted by Ezekieya

I bet 90% of the players here won't switch to warrior in today's state of the game. If you do, let me know how it is. It's a disheartening class pve-wise.

Im war main since always never played other class if u dont knew me yet means u bad af so just be quiet abt classes and l2p xd

**Freed** · 07-07-2023, 03:00 AM

I am a war main and I am 100% agree with you.
Mages has the best damage in game, having procs that give them 500% HP, Armor and OP shield, so whats the point if playing tank?

I also worked on my warrior to get 2600STR with high Crit damage, I could deal 75% of E Rahab HP solo in few seconds and now after this update I legit can’t do anything.
Mages just shred anything in their way, I guess STS want us all to stop playing warrior and make this game “Mage Legends”.

**Freed** · 07-07-2023, 03:02 AM

Originally Posted by Beanecacan

Im war main since always never played other class if u dont knew me yet means u bad af so just be quiet abt classes and l2p xd

Who are you? xD
Bro thinks he is famous haha

**Nexior** · 07-07-2023, 03:11 AM

Ups i just moved to war from mage

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**AgentStonoga** · 07-07-2023, 03:56 AM

Originally Posted by Freed

I am a war main and I am 100% agree with you.
Mages has the best damage in game, having procs that give them 500% HP, Armor and OP shield, so whats the point if playing tank?

I also worked on my warrior to get 2600STR with high Crit damage, I could deal 75% of E Rahab HP solo in few seconds and now after this update I legit can’t do anything.
Mages just shred anything in their way, I guess STS want us all to stop playing warrior and make this game “Mage Legends”.

Mage the best dmg in game? LOL, rog with curse skill has the highest dps.
You're not the only one who can't do anything to elite e rahab, almost all mages and rogs can't do 1 phase now, I can take like 35% of e raha hp at most on my mage.

**AgentStonoga** · 07-07-2023, 04:04 AM

Originally Posted by Ezekieya

It’s not just me, most regular warriors get rejected and discriminated regardless if they are op or not. See, you guys don’t understand that because you’re probably one of those arrogant mages and rogues. Go ahead and play warrior class and see for yourself what I mean. It’s hella toxic.

Sure, nerf our ultimate too. We barely get to use it anyways. As a matter of fact, take our other skills as well. If that’s what it takes to get our skills updated and improved then Im all
For it.

Good warriors weren't rejected. It was stated basically million times that good warrior needs polaris (or at least neptaris), cause it was able (before buff) to 1tap 2nd phase, which was helping our runs to be much faster. Sometimes I was trying to convince some polaris wars to leave their pt and join my pt, cause no polaris war was free. Sometimes was also running with 2 polaris wars in pt (1 for mini and 2 for 2 stage or polaris 2nd stage war + krak sword 2nd stage+last war) and it also worked pretty good.
Fastest possible lb rahab run was with 1 sorcerer and 3 wars, so it says a lot how good wars were useful on this map.

**Ilove_Poopoo** · 07-07-2023, 04:13 AM

To add, Gauntlet does give the most gold with a proper party as you've heard. However, do you want the curse skill nerfed so everyone in the team do less damage? rmb its a party buff/enemy debuff and everyone will do less dmg without or to have it useless.

What exactly are you fighting for?

**Freed** · 07-07-2023, 05:29 AM

Originally Posted by AgentStonoga

Mage the best dmg in game? LOL, rog with curse skill has the highest dps.
You're not the only one who can't do anything to elite e rahab, almost all mages and rogs can't do 1 phase now, I can take like 35% of e raha hp at most on my mage.

Your denying the fact that mages does the most damage by far is funny lol
Look at Orrick LB, this boss has now alot of HP and some mages can kill it SOLO in 3 seconds.
Show me a single player war or even a rogue who can do it solo even in 6 seconds which is double the time, and you wont find any

**Kystone** · 07-07-2023, 05:35 AM

Originally Posted by Freed

Your denying the fact that mages does the most damage by far is funny lol
Look at Orrick LB, this boss has now alot of HP and some mages can kill it SOLO in 3 seconds.
Show me a single player war or even a rogue who can do it solo even in 6 seconds which is double the time, and you wont find any

Yeah on a low proc rate weapon on a useless lb, literally who cares