@Cinco New Players Experience Is TERRIBLE now.

[Cinco]

But didn't you already take our feedback about leveling back then? It's the sole reason leveling is easy right now. There's no reason for it to be hard because there's nothing valuable or interesting to farm, 99.99% of the leveling process must be done solo, lower expansion maps are always empty, so, it only hurts new players who have no network of endgame players to help them level.

It's basically developers who pushed people into endgame, even most event top-tier bosses require you to be at max level. So why must you revert back to harder leveling? I remember back then new players would just be stuck at a certain level, and just ditch the game on the same day.

The new level cap will include another revision (i.e. flattening) of the XP curve.

And the issue where you could get max XP from quests that were (any number of) levels below your toon would make the upcoming 86 fast cap a total joke. We want the race to 86 to have some lil' tiny bit of meaning. This is the big reason for the change.

[Ilove_Poopoo]

The new level cap will include another revision (i.e. flattening) of the XP curve.

And the issue where you could get max XP from quests that were (any number of) levels below your toon would make the upcoming 86 fast cap a total joke. We want the race to 86 to have some lil' tiny bit of meaning. This is the big reason for the change.

So, the entire premise of the change was to cater for the 86 fast cap? But isn't the expansion months away? Why must this change so early when its only punishing new players.

Also why can't the XP quests and XP curve only be applicable starting from lv81 players? While lv1-80 players will get the same amount of XP in quests and XP curve we had before the update happened. So it'll still be easy to get from lv1 to lv80 as per my aforementioned reasons from my previous message.

[Cinco]

So, the entire premise of the change was to cater for the 86 fast cap? But isn't the expansion months away? Why must this change so early when its only punishing new players.

Also why can't the XP quests and XP curve only be applicable starting from lv81 players? While lv1-80 players will get the same amount of XP in quests and XP curve we had before the update happened. So it'll still be easy to get from lv1 to lv80 as per my aforementioned reasons from my previous message.

No, fast cap is a big part of it but there's also the basic concept of fixing what is essentially an XP inflow exploit as well as resurrecting the value of the Levlar event.

It's better to apply this as a system as opposed to special casing endgame or a specific level for inclusion / exclusion from XP award attenuation.

[Ilove_Poopoo]

No, fast cap is a big part of it but there's also the basic concept of fixing what is essentially an XP inflow exploit as well as resurrecting the value of the Levlar event.

It's better to apply this as a system as opposed to special casing endgame or a specific level for inclusion / exclusion from XP award attenuation.

I see, then I can only suggest tweaking the gears given by those lv1,5,10,15 etc "advancement packs", cuz they're weak and it doesn't really help the new players after certain levels because mobs from Glintstone and above exponentially increase in stats (dmg and hp). Cuz again, the whole leveling process involves just solo play, maps are empty, so it's only fair to give them better gears from these packs.

And I really think applying the new xp curve should only be for lv81 players only. Hope this gets executed right.

[Cinco]

I see, then I can only suggest tweaking the gears given by those lv1,5,10,15 etc "advancement packs", cuz they're weak and it doesn't really help the new players after certain levels because mobs from Glintstone and above exponentially increase in stats (dmg and hp). Cuz again, the whole leveling process involves just solo play, maps are empty, so it's only fair to give them better gears from these packs.

And I really think applying the new xp curve should only be for lv81 players only. Hope this gets executed right.

What we need are Level 50+ hirelings ;-)

(joking but not joking)

[Cinco]

And I really think applying the new xp curve should only be for lv81 players only. Hope this gets executed right.

To set expectations: I do not at all think that a specific level-cut off for this system is the right move. I will consider adjusting the fall-off to account for advancing players. No guarantee that anything will change but I do promise that we'll have a discussion about it.

[rokksteady]

So, the entire premise of the change was to cater for the 86 fast cap? But isn't the expansion months away? Why must this change so early when its only punishing new players.

Also why can't the XP quests and XP curve only be applicable starting from lv81 players? While lv1-80 players will get the same amount of XP in quests and XP curve we had before the update happened. So it'll still be easy to get from lv1 to lv80 as per my aforementioned reasons from my previous message.

+1 doesn’t this make total sense?

[AL_LilTecca]

The new level cap will include another revision (i.e. flattening) of the XP curve.

And the issue where you could get max XP from quests that were (any number of) levels below your toon would make the upcoming 86 fast cap a total joke. We want the race to 86 to have some lil' tiny bit of meaning. This is the big reason for the change.

I accidentally liked this comment but how about reduce the xp AFTER they hit level cap or near it. So 81’s now will get the current xp while players levels 1-80 get the old xp back. Stop being stingy with inventory slots and put it back where we can buy it with some type of tokens. I understand the business aspect of things but you are literally going to kill your own game. Making these huge changes to things that been in the game +6 years for more money isn’t the way to go. Awakes make y’all enough money not to mention locked crates. I feel as the other developer was better in the aspect that they listened after a while or looked for different ways to improve the game. It seems like you think how you think and we are supposed to accept it.

If you keep the game how it is (reduced xp, inventory slots, no decent drops in maps, no raids or anything to do at endgame) you won’t have any new players, and if you do they won’t stay long. The old players will play until they bored and quit like MOST of them have already cause theres nothing to do. We are asking for simple changes. Make the game interesting again.


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