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    Kavanah's Tank & Berzerker Build Loadout



    Description:

    The stat focus of this build is going all strength. This is also to switch from a tanker to a higher DPS'er loadout, I will be explain more as I work on it. This build is about having high survivorability while being able to dish out pretty good damage. It's called a Berzerker Build rather than a Tank build because this build doesn't include all tank skills but some other DPS skills and allows for zerker loadout.

    When to use zerker loadout? When you have several bears in the same game, you will probably tank less, so switch to zerker build to be more DPS effective. You also want to use Djinn Spear over Shock Lance if everyone else is using lance, since the Spear proc stacks with the Lance proc.


    Skills:

    Vengeful Slash 5/5 (58-108dmg)
    Stomp 5/5 (73-94dmg)
    Tuant 5/5 (+16 dodge 12sec buff)
    Rage 5/5 (+50% crit 20sec buff)
    Super Mega Slash 5/5 (59-125dmg 20%-90% chance to stun)
    Iron Blood 5/5 (+50 armor 12sec buff)
    Hellscream 5/5 (-50dmg, -25hit% 8m area of effect to non-allies)
    Evade 5/5 (+30 dodge 20sec buff)
    Beckon 4/5 (50% chance to stun, pulls target to you 12m areao of effect to non-allies)

    Base Stats:



    Stats with Recommended Tanker Equip:



    Stats with Recommended Zerker Equip:



    Recommended Gear for Tanker loadout:


    Weapon - Zuraz Shock Lance or Djinn Spear of Thoth or Djinn Spear of Isis

    Helm - Mynas Helmet of Thoth or Mynas Helmet of Isis

    Armor - Mynas Plate of Thoth or Mynas Plate of Isis

    Shield - Scarab Buckler of Thoth or Scarab Buckler of Isis

    *Note about itemezation: You want only 1 thoth item on. It doesn't really make a big difference which item you use for your thoth item. Right now I use this gear setup in my Tanker loadout and use my Zerker itemezation in another loadout but both loadouts only have one thoth item:

    My Tanker Loadout:Zuraz Shock Lance, Mynas Helmet of Isis, Mynas Plate of Thoth, Scarab Buckler of Isis

    Recommended Gear for Zerker loadout:


    Weapon - Djinn Spear of Horus or Djinn Spear of Thoth

    Helm - Mynas Helmet of Horus or Mynas Helmet of Thoth

    Armor - Mynas Plate of Horus or Mynas Plate of Thoth

    Shield - Scarab Buckler of Horus or Scarab Buckler of Thoth


    My Zerker Loadout:

    Djinn Spear of Horus, Mynas Helmet of Thoth, Mynas Plate of Horus, Scarab Buckler of Horus



    How To Use Loadouts:

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    This will bring you to the loadout screen. Make sure you have your gear equipped when you enter this screen if you wish to save that current gear setup. Whatever gear you have on when entering the loadout screen is whatever gear you will save onto a given loadout.

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    The edit button will allow you to name your loadout whatever you wish. I have named this loadout black because that is what color it makes my character when I want to look all black.

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    This will save your currently equipped gear to this loadout. The gear that I have on currently will be saved to my "black" loadout.

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    You will see the name of the loadout you have edited. After it has been saved with your currently equipped gear, tapping on the name will give you that saved loadout. When I tap on "black" I will get this gear shown.

    You can set multiple loadouts to how you would like. As you can see I have a loadout for an all black suit, an all red suit, my tanker suit for tanking, and my zerker suit for dps.
    Last edited by kavanah; 09-05-2010 at 06:46 PM.
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    nice guide! all str is the best for a bear farmer.
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    That leaves 4 skill points left. What do you recommend I put them in?
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    k can i just have a show of hands in pvp tanker or beserker in pve tanker or beserker

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    Its bewn awhile since i wrote the first berserker build guide, sometime in april i believe. This guide brings back some fond memories.

    This pure str build seems viable, but crushing blow is far superior to taunt. Also i generally think having a total of 16 int is always worth it. Part being a zerker is never stoping. I assume you would also use beckon.

    Pure str seens like it could be cool, tell is how it goes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Azrael View Post
    Its bewn awhile since i wrote the first berserker build guide, sometime in april i believe. This guide brings back some fond memories.

    This pure str build seems viable, but crushing blow is far superior to taunt. Also i generally think having a total of 16 int is always worth it. Part being a zerker is never stoping. I assume you would also use beckon.

    Pure str seens like it could be cool, tell is how it goes.
    This is actually going to be my tank guide and I will edit it for a zerker guide after I've done some more testing with horus. That's why I have taunt over crushing blow =)
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    how wud a beserker compare to a tank i know tanks run through bosees and stomp up in pvp how wud this match against one cuz the no dex makes his dps low

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    Quote Originally Posted by Demonicdevyn View Post
    how wud a beserker compare to a tank i know tanks run through bosees and stomp up in pvp how wud this match against one cuz the no dex makes his dps low
    A true bezerker build would be 142 str and the rest dex, with 1 thoth and 3 horus. That would be a pretty nice dps build for a tankier bear. I'm more focused on tanking than dps, so I want to have a loadout that I consider my zerker loadout simply for more dps than my tank loadout. You could also do the true zerker and have a loadout for isis to siwtch to a bit more tankier spec. It just depends which one you would rather dump stats into to focus more on. I personally think str should be buffed in the amount of health, regen, and armor it gives while also adding to the damage of str weapons. I'll be pm'ing Asommers about this on Tuesday.

    So right now, while playing a bear, what are you aiming for? In what way does the scale tip for you when comparing dps and tanking ability?

    Here of my quick ideas on bear builds:

    Ninjabear,bowbear, shivbear (full dex talon,bow,dagger respectively) High Damage - Low Tanking
    Zerker (142str/rest dex) - Medium Tanking - Medium Damage
    Tanker (full str) High Tanking - Low Damage

    So pick what you want and then use a loadout to compensate if you need to switch to either tanking better or dps'ing better in the given situation.
    Last edited by kavanah; 09-06-2010 at 12:22 AM.
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    Ninjabear,bowbear, shivbear (full dex talon,bow,dagger respectively) High Damage - Low Tanking
    Zerker (142str/rest dex) - Medium Tanking - Medium Damage
    Tanker (full str) High Tanking - Low Damage
    thanks for this info!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xviperr View Post
    thanks for this info!!
    I will add, before someone critiques it, that with the evade/iron blood skills, any bear is a beastly tank. So in all fairness every one of those builds can tank well. Just a side thought!
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    "My love for you is like a truck, BERSERKER
    Would you like some making"...
    nevermind, anyway very cool guide. I'm interested to know if this build's high health and skill damage makes it at all viable in PvP. I tried out a full Int enchantress after the stat-driven skills update and discovered that you still really need Dex to compete in PvP with a mage, but a full Str bear, especially with Isis on would just be so hard to kill...
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    you need some dex when you are tank. i have tried the all str build and it sucks. with the hit% debuffs you miss every frecking shot.
    it's useless and sucks at pvp.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GoXu View Post
    you need some dex when you are tank. i have tried the all str build and it sucks. with the hit% debuffs you miss every frecking shot.
    Well, actually a tank is not meant to be a serious damage dealer. A tank is meant to soak up damage and control mobs while the DPS stands back and kills. So a full Str build is actually pretty decent for a tank. For a DPS warrior or PvP warrior, you have always needed Dex, but I'm interested to know how a beastly full Str bear with 400 health and 29 H/s would fare in PvP, especially now that they have stronger skills as well. It may very well be total fail, but it would certainly be a tough character to take down, it's just a matter of whether or not it would be able to do enough damage fast enough to kill any opponents before they restore their own health.
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    i wasn't talking about a pve situation. i was talking about a pvp situation where the debuffs lower your hit% to like 50%.
    it seriously sucks; full str bears are one of the easiest to take down.
    Goodbye

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    Quote Originally Posted by GoXu View Post
    i wasn't talking about a pve situation. i was talking about a pvp situation where the debuffs lower your hit% to like 50%.
    it seriously sucks; full str bears are one of the easiest to take down.
    I wad simply referring to your use of the word "tank" which had a very specific meaning in this and other MMOs. Also, there is no way a full Str bear is "easy" to take down. Whether or not they can take down an opponent is another issue, and perhaps they cannot at all. Still, if real team PvP ever got popular, where you actually work together playing different roles rather than just playing as an individual like current "team" PvP, then a PvP tank would probably be quite useful
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    Quote Originally Posted by GoXu View Post
    i wasn't talking about a pve situation. i was talking about a pvp situation where the debuffs lower your hit% to like 50%.
    it seriously sucks; full str bears are one of the easiest to take down.
    It's a good thing you weren't talking pve because my tank can solo any map, did all AO2 without pots.
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    kk i get it the idea for ur build is to sacrafice ome damage to last longer then the compettion
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    this thread should be renamed the Fat Mans Build. berserker sounds very DeXish
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    Quote Originally Posted by Royce View Post
    I was referring to your use of the word "tank" which had a very specific meaning in this and other MMOs. Also, there is no way a full Str bear is "easy" to take down. Whether or not they can take down an opponent is another issue, and perhaps they cannot at all. Still, if real team PvP ever got popular, where you actually work
    together playing different roles rather than just
    playing as an individual like current "team" PvP,
    then a PvP tank would probably be quite useful
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    royce, play a pure tank player and you'll see what i mean. obviously you can't ko full str bears but after 10 secs, they become very fragile. i played about 5 full str bears and i was always at full hp, due to the fact they can't hit me AT ALL because of their lack of dex.
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