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    Quote Originally Posted by LichKing1 View Post
    biased...i worked hard to get where i am as everyone else did, they r giving bound loot so u have a choice between farming gold or risking to farm items, why would they make it easier to farm items than gold, it is not supposed to be a "must farm" map, but an another option next to rahab, 4th map, events and whatever
    im aware items will drop in price with time and idm if my billions worth gear drops by 70% with time cuz it served its purpose, im just talking about the balance, if u need a week to farm 100m in gold maps (just an example) why would they allow u to loot 3 arcane items that u will convert to your class in same amount of time (those arcanes r still worth alot even if they give 5% less stats/buffs)
    and as i said before, drop rate is decided by stats, not by what your friends feel like

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    What makes u think it’s possible to farm 100m in a week , very less people have that kind of time to spend on the game , I just want the game to be fun and fair for everyone and I don’t mean everything should just rain from the sky as you said , but it should be a much more reasonable grind and for the people who wanna grind more there’s always awakening and vanities to look forward to !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Itzmemohsin View Post
    What makes u think it’s possible to farm 100m in a week , very less people have that kind of time to spend on the game , I just want the game to be fun and fair for everyone and I don’t mean everything should just rain from the sky as you said , but it should be a much more reasonable grind !
    it was just an example to compare gold and item farm, the point is that items drop faster than gold and it doesnt need more buffs (conversion)
    i dont have the stats that devs have but everyone could see multiple "bound" items in ac the first couple hours and even now u can see many arcane bracelets being sold on forums, it seems like there is already more arcane than mythic bracelets
    what will u farm after u finish the items? farm for rare vanities and complain they r too rare and need re-release? bruh

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    Quote Originally Posted by LichKing1 View Post
    it was just an example to compare gold and item farm, the point is that items drop faster than gold and it doesnt need more buffs (conversion)
    i dont have the stats that devs have but everyone could see multiple "bound" items in ac the first couple hours and even now u can see many arcane bracelets being sold on forums, it seems like there is already more arcane than mythic bracelets
    what will u farm after u finish the items? farm for rare vanities and complain they r too rare and need re-release? bruh

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    There are surely multiple reasons to farm rather than just plain non awakened gears , there’s awakening , vanities , housing.

    I feel like farming for gears shouldn’t be the end goal , rather gears should be a means to reaching a greater goal.

    If someone likes to just play plain normal pve that requires intense grinding there’s much more appealing options to play in todays age .

    AL is surviving mostly because of its various social aspects , not particularly because people like the grind / play the game , it’s just coz it’s a clutter free and simple open world game with nostalgic vibes and the social aspect of the game is very strong [trading , auction , guild, housing , events , etc …] ,

    I am not saying that the grinding part of the game should be removed , am just saying the grind is just way too intense and should be made quite a lot easier , there shouldn’t be a huge disparity between players in terms of gears / equipment and everyone should be allowed decently Fair participation.

    I just want the game to grow and have just said what I think could make it better , let me know if you disagree and why you disagree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Itzmemohsin View Post
    There are surely multiple reasons to farm rather than just plain non awakened gears , there’s awakening , vanities , housing.

    I feel like farming for gears shouldn’t be the end goal , rather gears should be a means to reaching a greater goal.

    If someone likes to just plain normal pve that requires intense grinding there’s much more appealing options to play in todays age .

    AL is surviving mostly because of its various social aspects , not particularly because people like the grind / play the game , it’s just coz it’s a clutter free and simple open world game with nostalgic vibes and the social aspect of the game is very strong [trading , auction , guild, housing , events , etc …] ,

    I am not saying that the grinding part of the game should be removed , am just saying the grind is just way too intense and should be made quite a lot easier , there shouldn’t be a huge disparity between players in terms of gears / equipment.

    I just want the game to grow and have just said what I think could make it better , let me know if you disagree and why you disagree.
    there is almost no disparity in honor pvp and yet normal pvp is more active, players need the competition to strive to be better
    game lacks skill part of the gameplay so it makes up for it in gearing department, players who r here just to socialise, dont play much anyway
    yes, gears should be used for something greater, i farmed to be able to play events like temple (was 4th) and stronghold siege (1st), now imagine everyone had the gear, i wouldnt even bother playing as everyone would do same score with same gear (there was not much skill involved ngl...just raw dmg)

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    Just wait until the classes do Elemental Damage, i think sts is overestimating players resolve. Careful

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    Quote Originally Posted by LichKing1 View Post
    there is almost no disparity in honor pvp and yet normal pvp is more active, players need the competition to strive to be better
    game lacks skill part of the gameplay so it makes up for it in gearing department, players who r here just to socialise, dont play much anyway
    yes, gears should be used for something greater, i farmed to be able to play events like temple (was 4th) and stronghold siege (1st), now imagine everyone had the gear, i wouldnt even bother playing as everyone would do same score with same gear (there was not much skill involved ngl...just raw dmg)

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    The gearing department makes up for nothing , it just makes the game more pay to win and PvP isn't a thing nowadays as much as it used to be .

    Sts doesn't need to give the best stuff for free , just that now the disparity between people who own kraken and the people who don't own them is insane , the desparity needs to be greatly reduced but keep the grinding aspect of the game for people to get the best gears with the best awakes .

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    Quote Originally Posted by LichKing1 View Post
    i have a full time job+studying IT and didnt buy any plats since last 4 years, came back to game a year ago, could only afford mediocre zaar set after labyrinth and still farmed up to 3.2k dex kraken
    u dont need to have alot of free time, just need to know where to stab (farm+investments), asking to make everything rain from the sky is unhealthy for the game
    if u want to play casual, not think too much about the game and whatever, u dont have rights to complain, the game is balanced around players that actually want to play so any change that makes the game easier means players would max out faster and get bored of playing sooner, thats why drop rates for meta gear r usually low, theres alot of trash that u can loot and dont need (to make u have to work more)
    if they change drop rates (im not talking about this post specifically, its just what people keep suggesting) or anything similar, it will be based on the statistics they have and not on how players think it should be - allowing us to convert gear is almost like increasing drop rate, so what would happen is that they would decrease drop rate by ~3 times and let u spend 1-10m gold to get what u wanted and they still might not be happy about it
    Edit: forgot to mention that devs made it this way to push us to make alts of other classes, if u dont want it, u dont have to play it, still have other options

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    So what u want us to do , farm 5-10hrs each day and get gears that too of other class most of time which we don’t need? 80% ppl loot other class kraken. Btw Gears should be a thing accessible to everyone so people can enjoy game and if people enjoy game then only they will think of buying plat. Game should earn money with vanity and some other stuff like other games do. Also , Feels like daily rewards were added just for formality , doesn’t give anything good. 1 slot in 5 days , like what!? Doesn’t even make sense , 5k-20k days to max slots inv slots? I don’t think till that much time this game will even exist. Mostly u get furnishing slot. And what about other slots like crafting and hot bar. I have max slots but I’m talking about other people . They atleast need to add krak class conversion for players .


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    Quote Originally Posted by Itzmemohsin View Post
    The gearing department makes up for nothing , it just makes the game more pay to win and PvP isn't a thing nowadays as much as it used to be .

    Sts doesn't need to give the best stuff for free , just that now the disparity between people who own kraken and the people who don't own them is insane , the desparity needs to be greatly reduced but keep the grinding aspect of the game for people to get the best gears with the best awakes .
    I guess you are new because it is so much easier to earn gold in todays game than (Insert Year).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Switchback View Post
    I guess you are new because it is so much easier to earn gold in todays game than (Insert Year).
    Bruh don't talk to me about gold plz, increasing the amount of gold doesn't increase its value, it totally depends on the market status . few years back , the best weapon in the game used to cost under 5m and in some cases under or around 1m and now it costs 100m.

    However easier it gets to make gold , getting gears should get easier , gold never has fixed value and inflation always needs to keep happening at a reasonable rate to keep the economy healthy .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Inawaz View Post
    So what u want us to do , farm 5-10hrs each day and get gears that too of other class most of time which we don’t need? 80% ppl loot other class kraken. Btw Gears should be a thing accessible to everyone so people can enjoy game and if people enjoy game then only they will think of buying plat. Game should earn money with vanity and some other stuff like other games do. Also , Feels like daily rewards were added just for formality , doesn’t give anything good. 1 slot in 5 days , like what!? Doesn’t even make sense , 5k-20k days to max slots inv slots? I don’t think till that much time this game will even exist. Mostly u get furnishing slot. And what about other slots like crafting and hot bar. I have max slots but I’m talking about other people . They atleast need to add krak class conversion for players .
    i literally wrote i dont farm that much and yet have everything "maxed out" (f2p, job, studies), i can farm 5m/h in rahab with average party so thats 20h for a wpn, a newbie can probably farm 1-2m/h in normal rahab after a month of farming jewels to buy gl and zaar (ik cuz my friend went that way) so he needs 50-100h for first kraken piece and then everything gets easier and easier (didnt even count some profitable events which boost this statistic by alot)
    bet u i spent atleast 300h farming lockeds in kt3 to buy vili set (2013)
    for slots i agree, but i think they will add another option to get slots, like jarl event

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    Quote Originally Posted by LichKing1 View Post
    i literally wrote i dont farm that much and yet have everything "maxed out" (f2p, job, studies), i can farm 5m/h in rahab with average party so thats 20h for a wpn, a newbie can probably farm 1-2m/h in normal rahab after a month of farming jewels to buy gl and zaar (ik cuz my friend went that way) so he needs 50-100h for first kraken piece and then everything gets easier and easier (didnt even count some profitable events which boost this statistic by alot)
    bet u i spent atleast 300h farming lockeds in kt3 to buy vili set (2013)
    for slots i agree, but i think they will add another option to get slots, like jarl event

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    Well for one , I’ll tell you that back in the day there was no awakening so what you got was the best item and you could use it for a very long time without thinking of awakening and it was no where near 300 hours of farming as far as I remember, it probably would have been less than half of that and during that time AL was the best of the best available on mobile games at that time and the game was much more active .

    Now the situation is completely different , expecting a new player to farm 50-100 hours to play a 10 year old game for just a single kraken piece is what a crack head would do , you’ll need to accept that it’s been years and the game needs to adapt in a much better way. It’s very hard to engage new players with such kinds of expectations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LichKing1 View Post
    i literally wrote i dont farm that much and yet have everything "maxed out" (f2p, job, studies), i can farm 5m/h in rahab with average party so thats 20h for a wpn, a newbie can probably farm 1-2m/h in normal rahab after a month of farming jewels to buy gl and zaar (ik cuz my friend went that way) so he needs 50-100h for first kraken piece and then everything gets easier and easier (didnt even count some profitable events which boost this statistic by alot)
    bet u i spent atleast 300h farming lockeds in kt3 to buy vili set (2013)
    for slots i agree, but i think they will add another option to get slots, like jarl event

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    With zaarus rahab is hard af . They made this new zone catacombs so there should be a good purpose of it , atleast they should add conversion option . Not everyone is as lucky as some ppl who loot many krak.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Itzmemohsin View Post
    Well for one , I’ll tell you that back in the day there was no awakening so what you got was the best item and you could use it for a very long time without thinking of awakening and it was no where near 300 hours of farming in km3 [Wasn’t kt3 as you said] as far as I remember, it probably would have been less than half of that and during that time AL was the best of the best available on mobile games at that time and the game was much more active .

    Now the situation is completely different , expecting a new player to farm 50-100 hours to play a 10 year old game for just a single kraken piece is what a crack head would do , you’ll need to accept that it’s been years and the game needs to adapt in a much better way. It’s very hard to engage new players with such kinds of expectations.
    Exactly! Crack head will do that . A newbie won’t spend this much time on this game when there’s way better games to play . Players playing nowadays like 70% of them are old players , they still playing cuz they have memories with this game . .

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    I still have the best suggestion i think even though i will not waste my time farming there. All you guys are doing is arguing over gold.

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    Ppl must be forgetting STS had emphasised this map for the most geared players.

    The added bound krakens, even if they aren't your class, it is still an added bonus that was added last minute. A good sum of new players have looted them for their classes and are comfortable to play other maps at ease.. Some newbies even loot those new bracelets, an oppurtunity that they now can afford full kraken sets.

    Catacombs hasn't been out for a week long and it already gave alot of undergeared/new players the fortune of kraken drops.

    Ppl asking for more want to be spoonfed tbh.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Switchback View Post
    I still have the best suggestion i think even though i will not waste my time farming there. All you guys are doing is arguing over gold.
    Your suggestion is that other classes should be encouraged, but other classes shouldn’t be forced and exactly as you said and on the other hand you yourself say that you won’t be wasting time farming that zone , no one here is arguing mainly about gold , the argument is just about progression being insanely hard and the disparity between kraken and non kraken players being insanely high .

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    I agree bound kraken and bound mechanubus should be able to be converted to your class I think it would make the dungeons even more enjoyable. I personally love the dungeons I think they are great but getting an item for a different class is kind of a hype kill. Btw thanks cinco I saw your comment and it is nice to see you care also I wanted to add that the people saying no are also the people who already have the gear and the problem with the game currently is that only the rich have an easy time farming so new events make the rich richer and the poor more poor so not to be rude but the rich people who are saying this shouldn’t be a thing are part of the issue and need to understand that most of the playerbase isn’t rich and for the game to be healthy it needs to be enjoyable for everyone not only the rich players.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ilove_Poopoo View Post
    Ppl must be forgetting STS had emphasised this map for the most geared players.

    The added bound krakens, even if they aren't your class, it is still an added bonus that was added last minute. A good sum of new players have looted them for their classes and are comfortable to play other maps at ease.. Some newbies even loot those new bracelets, an oppurtunity that they now can afford full kraken sets.

    Catacombs hasn't been out for a week long and it already gave alot of undergeared/new players the fortune of kraken drops.

    Ppl asking for more want to be spoonfed tbh.



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    If there wasn’t bound krakens then no use of playing this event zone. You saying that it gave lot of players good gears who dint have , mostly ppl get other class krakens . Bracelet looting is very rare not everyone is as lucky as ppl who loot it and also … looting krak requires lot of grinding too so don’t talk about spoonfeeding .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Inawaz View Post
    If there wasn’t bound krakens then no use of playing this event zone. You saying that it gave lot of players good gears who dint have , mostly ppl get other class krakens . Bracelet looting is very rare not everyone is as lucky as ppl who loot it and also … looting krak requires lot of grinding too so don’t talk about spoonfeeding .
    Looting krak requires lot of grinding yes.

    And ppl who cry are mostly those who dont wanna grind and wanna be spoonfed - you're an example.

    Maybe if u run the game more than your mouth, then you would've looted valuable stuff that many newbies/ppl have already did.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Ilove_Poopoo View Post
    Looting krak requires lot of grinding yes.

    And ppl who cry are mostly those who dont wanna grind and wanna be spoonfed - you're an example.

    Maybe if u run the game more than your mouth, then you would've looted valuable stuff that many newbies/ppl have already did.



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    Not a very constructive reply indeed , it’s a game bruh , shouldn’t be second job and it’s something that is meant to be played for leisure, not for increasing stress !

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