Buff the mages ultimates

**Adf** · 10-08-2023, 03:41 AM

We don t need haste as ultimate. For boss we need something like warrior and rogue have. We need deal a huge amount of damage in 1-2 hits like they do. I never saw a mage insta killing a boss as i saw warriors/rogues. From what i see in this event rogues and warriors has higher chance to loot something from boss than mages, just because they deal huge amount of damage to it in few seconds. Yes we have meteor ultimate, but the damage we deal with it isn t as much as rogues and warriors can deal using their ultimates. So MAGES ARE THE MOST WEAKIEST CLASS IN GAME, so they are build only for mobs clear. Lol

**Potofgreed** · 10-08-2023, 03:43 AM

Tbh ultimates should be removed from the game.

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**xbell** · 10-08-2023, 04:10 AM

Mage are flexible, good in boss only and long maps. You cant run smoothly without mage, they always picked in a party. You should try warrior and see how useless warrior in boss only portals. And for the long map, I think rogue's ultimate buff is faster burst than warrior's ult.

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**Adf** · 10-08-2023, 05:09 AM

Originally Posted by xbell

Mage are flexible, good in boss only and long maps. You cant run smoothly without mage, they always picked in a party. You should try warrior and see how useless warrior in boss only portals. And for the long map, I think rogue's ultimate buff is faster burst than warrior's ult.

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Portal boss is only based on what gear you have. So doesn t matter what ultimate you have.

**Switchback** · 10-08-2023, 08:40 AM

" I never saw a mage insta kill bosses as i saw Warriors/Rogues". I just got done playing mage for about 4 months and played warrior for a least a few months before that. Go try warrior and see how much you like it, it is not that fun to rely on your ultimate.

**KarTik1** · 10-08-2023, 11:07 PM

There are two broken ultimates
Rage - warrior
Haste(forgot name) - mage .
Most of the maps we usually farm are portal bosses for gold loot .
Where warrior ulti is useless and yes it is all about gears against portal bosses .
But take equal build for all 3 classes
And rouges will deal highest damage second is mages and then warriors .
Right now all 3 classes can clear mobs equally fast with end game gears depends on player .
I saw mages dealing highest damage against hedou .
And tell me in which map you are farming solo
At first place .
Mages ulti is most useful since the days of evg
And is same for ezg .
I mean rouges can complain about their ulti but mages and wars got the most broken ones lol .

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**Adf** · 10-09-2023, 12:00 AM

Originally Posted by KarTik1

There are two broken ultimates
Rage - warrior
Haste(forgot name) - mage .
Most of the maps we usually farm are portal bosses for gold loot .
Where warrior ulti is useless and yes it is all about gears against portal bosses .
But take equal build for all 3 classes
And rouges will deal highest damage second is mages and then warriors .
Right now all 3 classes can clear mobs equally fast with end game gears depends on player .
I saw mages dealing highest damage against hedou .
And tell me in which map you are farming solo
At first place .
Mages ulti is most useful since the days of evg
And is same for ezg .
I mean rouges can complain about their ulti but mages and wars got the most broken ones lol .

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Only because we proc our staff and use meteor, don t make us beeing the best in game. Let s take the new map event, hyberian, rogues can clear boss in one shoot only if they have pisces and ultimate. Mage with hyperos won t do much damage if they use haste and get stun from boss. Same for rest of maps that are long and require clear of mobs. If the meteor will be same as arrow from rogues, rage from warriors that would be equal in all the class. Plus if mage use haste is apply to all team, not only for them.

**KarTik1** · 10-09-2023, 12:14 AM

Originally Posted by Adf

Only because we proc our staff and use meteor, don t make us beeing the best in game. Let s take the new map event, hyberian, rogues can clear boss in one shoot only if they have pisces and ultimate. Mage with hyperos won t do much damage if they use haste and get stun from boss. Same for rest of maps that are long and require clear of mobs. If the meteor will be same as arrow from rogues, rage from warriors that would be equal in all the class. Plus if mage use haste is apply to all team, not only for them.

My question is still
Why do you have to solo map ?
Dont you have any other party members with you.
I am doing the same map with randoms and had decent players each time .
You are making excuses over here.
Many time i was on cd on procs
Py party killed them as fast as they can do with my help .
I am a tank yes i can crush that boss with my ulti .
But again i can do that because i am 3k str
Full krak arcane bracelet tank .
And my 2nd question was
Which maps are out there where we farm pve ?
When events are on cool down .
Most of them are portal maps .
Where ulti does not make any sense .
Look at general view it�s perfect as it is
Yes i want them to buss meteor strike for dot damage atleast that is fair .
And how many event bosses have such high hp ?
A mage party kills hedou fastest
A mage party kills e rahab fastest
Mages are on most of the lb .
Mages can do higher damage without ulti then warriors Can tank better then rouges normal skills have best crowed control .
Can clear map faster then other classes which in the end at boss makes us all balanced .

**recilencia123** · 10-09-2023, 02:42 AM

-1 all good with mages

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**wilson1108** · 10-09-2023, 03:03 AM

If all mage can do all the things by themselves, clear mobs, nude bosses, what the point of warrior character? All warrior change class to mage rn if you arguing with this kind of things, sts can remove warrior from now on

**Adf** · 10-09-2023, 07:18 AM

Originally Posted by wilson1108

If all mage can do all the things by themselves, clear mobs, nude bosses, what the point of warrior character? All warrior change class to mage rn if you arguing with this kind of things, sts can remove warrior from now on

So what you mean, rogues and warriors can only do boss? They can t clear mobs, as mages do? Go in labyrinth event, and see how kraken warriors clear the map so fast, that i can t see them. And at the end one shoot boss, with their ultimate.

**wilson1108** · 10-09-2023, 08:28 AM

Originally Posted by Adf

So what you mean, rogues and warriors can only do boss? They can t clear mobs, as mages do? Go in labyrinth event, and see how kraken warriors clear the map so fast, that i can t see them. And at the end one shoot boss, with their ultimate.

Labyrinth mobs is low in hp, what if mobs high in hp? You also said before the boss in labyrinth cant be one shot with your meteor but rogue and war can. But what if you conpare with zodias bosses? I saw most of the mage can one shoot them. Dont argue with mage ult since it is fair rn. If you did not satisfied with mage ult, go change your class then, you will see the difference between war and mage

**xbell** · 10-09-2023, 08:31 AM

Mage have meteor can nuke boss and mobs

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**will0** · 10-09-2023, 09:17 AM

Originally Posted by xbell

Mage have meteor can nuke boss and mobs

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Boss don't die one hit from meteor are u sure

**xbell** · 10-09-2023, 10:03 AM

Originally Posted by will0

Boss don't die one hit from meteor are u sure

I didn't say it is one hit lol.
It can be use for boss and mobs that's why it can't one hit the boss. Mage is already good without ult unlike warrior.

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**Adf** · 10-09-2023, 11:21 AM

Originally Posted by wilson1108

Labyrinth mobs is low in hp, what if mobs high in hp? You also said before the boss in labyrinth cant be one shot with your meteor but rogue and war can. But what if you conpare with zodias bosses? I saw most of the mage can one shoot them. Dont argue with mage ult since it is fair rn. If you did not satisfied with mage ult, go change your class then, you will see the difference between war and mage

You should test, go see how much dmg you deal with meteor and kraken gear to a boss, and how much you deal with ultimates of a warriors/rogues to a boss.

**wilson1108** · 10-09-2023, 11:30 AM

Originally Posted by Adf

You should test, go see how much dmg you deal with meteor and kraken gear to a boss, and how much you deal with ultimates of a warriors/rogues to a boss.

Nah, i have play mage and rogue before, all you want now is nuke boss and clear mobs faster for mage, all you want is just for your character, selfish, thats all

**Elec** · 10-09-2023, 11:33 AM

If you didn't see mages who melt bosses within a second, you probably didn't play the game enough.

Plus the amount of dmg dealt shouldn't affect your drop.

Maybe the real problem is that mage is too strong to kill everything even without ult but other class need ult to kill.

**wilson1108** · 10-09-2023, 11:36 AM

Originally Posted by Elec

If you didn't see mages who melt bosses within a second, you probably didn't play the game enough.

Plus the amount of dmg dealt shouldn't affect your drop.

Maybe the real problem is that mage is too strong to kill everything even without ult but other class need ult to kill.

He just having bad gear with him, he just want to be like others mage, and he forgot about war that need 3k str and above to go op. His mindset now is to nuke boss with his terrible gear, so he arguing about mage ult now

**xbell** · 10-09-2023, 12:17 PM

He don't know how good mage in clearing mobs too, plus the top tier skill Curse really make the boss paper.
You just seeing a warrior with 3k str kraken + force sword + arc bracelet.
The question is do u have arcane bracelet? Are you fully geared and have high int?
If not this thread is pointless because you just want your chosen class to be op be like even with bad gears.

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