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    Quote Originally Posted by D-: View Post
    Thank you sir.

    But imo, expert isn't as good as Armsman.

    Armsman gives more dodge, which you will need a LOT of with Low Level.

    Expert isn't a bad choice, I've tried it man. It gives Crit, but you need dodge, not crit.

    In personal experiences I think Armsman would be better over Expert.

    Oh yes, and whoever remembers when they forgot to patch the "7" skills? I was pulling 50 dodge with 7 evade!
    *With Conquerors Helm and Shield.
    actually your wrong there my experience of bird pvp is that expert is perfectly good against some things eg mages, rhinos and also 16+ bears because they have ib and not normally high stomp so u can afford to take a hit from the stomp and by doing this you nuke them with crits and therefore you win but i have only done this with a lv16 bird i dont like 18 birds not as hard as 16 (i like a challenge) also if you try with armsman on lv16 you wont win because you still might get hit by stomp and also they always get hit by the forg (which most people use) BUT dont get me wrong you shud still use armsman against other birds that wear expert and against lv12-15 bears

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    No, you're wrong.

    This is a PRE FORG build. Before "Rhinos".

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    Yes and i tried this build before op wepaons or forg came...

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    You weren't even around pre forg.

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    Quote Originally Posted by D-: View Post
    You weren't even around pre forg.
    Amen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OverkillED View Post
    Amen.
    Had to remove a thanks to thank this. Lol.

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    great guide Lost

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    It's bird making time! Lol I might try that rush tip, less armor buff, more crit and hit pct. Nice guide bro!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iamlvl View Post
    It's bird making time! Lol I might try that rush tip, less armor buff, more crit and hit pct. Nice guide bro!
    Nice necro.

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    Quote Originally Posted by InternalNinja View Post
    Nice necro.
    Good guides deserve them..


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    Quote Originally Posted by Rot View Post
    Good guides deserve them..
    Agreed.

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    Back when brosauce was a tiny 19 bird...

    *tear*

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    Lost this guide sucks...

















    Cos it wud easily beat fogue even toyman vs fb
    On a serious note nice guide very good only question is why only armsman why not use diff bodies for vs diff opponents eg i use exp vs 17 bears cos their stomp dont hurt as much and i use art vs 20s cos of their blind and forg debuff (yes ik this is preforg) but just wondered my theory has been that armsman beats exp exp beats art and art beats armsman seems to work for me (but this being when i use forg)


    Just wonders

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    Just wondering, wouldn't crafted be better than forged? Same dodge and your armor is low as is. And purp fbow FTW cuz dodge lul

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    Quote Originally Posted by I-am-Fogue View Post
    Lost this guide sucks...

















    Cos it wud easily beat fogue even toyman vs fb
    On a serious note nice guide very good only question is why only armsman why not use diff bodies for vs diff opponents eg i use exp vs 17 bears cos their stomp dont hurt as much and i use art vs 20s cos of their blind and forg debuff (yes ik this is preforg) but just wondered my theory has been that armsman beats exp exp beats art and art beats armsman seems to work for me (but this being when i use forg)


    Just wonders

    - Fogue

    Mostly because dodge was more essential then than now.

    With all bears, they used SBL (75%), and if they hit the "stun proc" plus stomp and SMS, it's a dead bird, most likely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MysticLegend97 View Post
    Just wondering, wouldn't crafted be better than forged? Same dodge and your armor is low as is. And purp fbow FTW cuz dodge lul
    Or am I hopefully misinformed?

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    my lvl 19 nuke bird and 19 tri-spec dodge bird were here first! But good guide shelby baby
    Expert pvp builder and tester, horrible execution XD
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    Quote Originally Posted by D-: View Post
    Table of Contents:
    I - Gear
    II - Attributes
    III - Skills
    IV - Combos
    V - Things to remember!


    Well I hope you guys enjoy, give me some feedback too!

    I. Gear:

    -L5 Armsman
    *(I personally use Forged) works the best for dodge, However I dont suggest getting 15 Armsman, since 5 and 15 have the same Dodge%.

    -L10 Snipers Helmet, and shield.
    *Can be found in "Dex 4-Pack". Or what I used was Conquerers. It gives more dodge. Find this under "L10 STR 4-Pack". If you have Snipers stay with it. Either is fine.

    -18 Forgotten Bow/15 Toyman.
    *If you want to be a super noob then use FB, I use L15 Toyman.

    II. Attributes:

    STR-22 (For 5 Armsman.)

    INT- 5 (For 15 Toyman if you are going to use it.)

    DEX- All remaining points here.

    III. Skills:

    -6 Evade
    *A Birds best friend, max this out, because Evade is MANDITORY for a birds survival.

    -3 Focus
    *Just a good buff to get hit% up.

    -4 Break
    *Almost all birds use 5 break, but since break STACKS, there is NO NEED for 5. 4 is FINE.

    -1 Shatter
    *To start "Cruel Blast" Combo.

    -1 Blast
    *To end "Cruel Blast" Combo.

    -1 Root
    *Mostly for Debuffs on Birds, We'll get into this in combos.

    -1 Repulse
    *To kite a bears Stomp/Hellscream, and if you know your range very well, this would be good to get 22 bears out of range for beckon.

    IV. Combos:

    -For Bears: Focus, Evade, Repulse, Break, Shatter, Blast, Root.
    *Personally I like to start off with repulse, run in like you are going to nuke, then repulse and run back, If they miss you will have time to start your combo. Then root at the end so you can kite some more. If they dont miss and it stuns you, pray for dodge.

    -For Birds: Focus, Evade, Break, Shatter, Blast, Root, Repulse.
    *Honestly this combo is very easy... I just use Repulse at the end for more damage, I wouldnt suggest using Repulse if they are trying to kite. I also recommend trying to get your root on, if it dodges it is fine, but it would be better to hit with root because there is a secret dodge debuff that comes with it.

    -For Mages: Focus, Evade, Root, Break, Shatter, Blast, Repulse.
    *The reason we start off with Root is to stop the mage from kiting, they will heal to get out of it, and after they WASTED a heal, you combo. I wouldnt use Repulse unless you are close enough for another root. After they wasted the heal they usually die within the first combo.
    ** Vs Mages, SAVE BLAST if they are L18 or up. When they MS, Blast, then start the combo given above.
    *** Dont fight L22 Mages, they will kill you in an instant due to all the buffs.

    V. Things to remember!
    -Know your range (About 8m for Shatter and 12m for Repulse).
    -Know when to start your combo and when to kite.
    -Know a stomps range for 10. 12, 15, and 17 bears.
    -Know Beckons range for 22 Bears. (If you face them ALWAYS repulse at 12).
    -Know that dodge CAN be luck, so don't be amazed if you come out full after a fight and say "gf nub I'm full". Don't be disrespectful.


    Level 19 Bird Guide!

    Table of Contents
    I - Build
    II - Skills


    This was a request by ethan123, so I'll make it. This is almost the same exact thing to 18 birds, so this will be shorter...

    There are THREE things you can do at 19. Put break to 5, 2 to Root, or focus to 4.

    (Creds to BROSAUCE for helping with 2 Root build!)

    I. Build

    Well the build is quite simple, there isn't really a wrong answer in my eyes.

    Increasing STR - I would personally do this for more dodge %. But you also have other choices.

    Increasing DEX - Basically just for more damage and such.

    Increasing INT - Just for more Mana Regen since most birds have VERY LOW mana regen.

    Keep in mind these can only be increased 5 points. So you can increase all 5 to STR, DEX, or INT. Or split them up. Although it would not make much of a difference. If you were to split them up I would try 3 STR, 2 DEX.

    Skills

    -3 to 4 Focus
    *I would use this still since break stacks, but this is your choice. 4 Focus is better from my experience.

    -4 to 5 Break
    *Another good place to put your 1 point. I still like 4 break because it STACKS. It doesn't make much sense to me that people would put 5 instead of 4. Unless if they know it doesn't stack. Based on personal experience, I'd go 4 Focus. But this is your choice! don't be afraid to choose whichever you prefer.

    -1 to 2 Root
    *I already tried this out and it's a very good build! Due to the Forg Bows and all OP items, Dodge Hax Birds are basically the hardest you'll face. Mostly because bears get eaten up by repulse, and mages, just lol.
    **Anyways as said above, "Dodge Birds are the thing you'll be facing the most." So since everyone thinks they are some pro now for using a Forgotten Bow and owning (POSTULATE) breaking down dodge would be the best! What you'd do for this is I WOULD start off with root when 1v1. The reason behind this is because you can combo knowing the birds dodge is down! Also, if you miss, pray the bird misses his/her root, or you're screwed.

    21 RUSHING Bird Guide!

    Table of Contents
    I - Build
    II - Equipment
    III - Skills
    IV - Combos



    I - Build


    Full Dex!


    II - Equipment

    Armor:
    If you're a kind of poor guy, then use 10 Snipers Helm, and Armor.
    This seems odd, I know, but it works! (in my past experience)
    If you are a kind of rich - Rich guy, then go with L21 Sandstone Cave Helm and Armor!
    (I use onyx because it looks PRO! Any set works though.)

    Weapons:
    L21 Forg Bow! - If you're the super noob, go with this weapon!

    L20 Halloween Items! - Some of these items are Ridiculously OP. I'd use Pumpkin Chunker for kiting abilities!

    Rings:

    I'd use a L20 DAMAGE Ring! Or dodge, or both!

    III - Skills

    Remember that this is a RUSHING build, so it may seem odd to some.

    6 Blast - Super Combo Damage!
    1 Shatter - To start your Super Combo Damage!
    6 Focus - For MAX Hit% and Damage Output!
    1 Repulse - To eat bears up with HS and Stomp!
    1 Root - To debuff those DODGE HAXXIN BIRDS!
    3 Evade - For Dodge %! (Most rushing birds just need the max damage output.)
    2 Blinding - Always start out with this! You'll find the debuff can make them miss a lot!

    IV - Combos

    For Bears - Focus, Evade, Blinding, Repulse, Break, Shatter, Blast, Root.
    *Blinding Tip - It would be a shame if a bear missed the Stomp/HS/Beckon because of your debuff!
    *Repulse Tip - To eat up the bears Stomp/HS/Beckon!

    For Birds - Focus, Evade, Blinding, Root, Break, Shatter, Blast, Repulse.
    *Blinding Tip - They could miss Root, which could save your life!
    *Repulse Tip - If you think they are trying to kite, don't use it, it'll knock them back further to kite you more!

    For Mages - Focus, Evade, Blinding, Root, Break, Shatter, Blast, Repulse
    *Blinding Tip - A Mage might just miss the Drain if you use this!
    *Root Tip - Freeze them so they waste a heal getting out of it then nuke!
    *Blast Tip - Some mages are late MSers, keep this in mind and hold onto blast until they MS to pop it!







    Good luck out there!
    ~Lost (Vohcab)
    Thanks for great guide! I just lvled my burd to 18, and have all the gear above. Ill let you know how it goes, and ill let you know if i have a question or concern. Im not sure if this was made before or after the fbow nerf, so im not sure if this is gonna work out :/. Whats your input on this?

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    I recommend 6 blind at level 21+ pure dex. Just my oppinon

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    I play with my bird rarely, I use no evade anymore. Birds are so weak under lv 30-31. I'm not sure is this the "balance", rhinos were op already They were hard before this new balance but now, everyone can be pro with lv20 rhinos and mages. Sounds good but If you're a ex-bird player, It's crap.

    If someone still wants to play a bird, can make different combos from focus, blast, break, shatter (n 1rep) or as this lv21 bird build. Don't need any dodge item I think..

    *tear*

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