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    Quote Originally Posted by Activista View Post
    I think you are very marijuana, I have not seen the 'kraken' go up in price on the contrary it is more accessible
    However, you can't successfully farm in gauntlet with just kraken, can you? For this, you need good awakes on your gear and good gear overall, the prices of which only increase, especially talking about awakes. What I'm discussing in my post is that EFFECTIVELY farming in the Gauntlet can only be done by wealthy players. And prices are rising not for universally accessible items, but for items that are specifically used, needed and connected with ganutlet

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    Quote Originally Posted by FrankfurtHBF View Post
    However, you can't successfully farm in gauntlet with just kraken, can you? For this, you need good awakes on your gear and good gear overall, the prices of which only increase, especially talking about awakes. What I'm discussing in my post is that EFFECTIVELY farming in the Gauntlet can only be done by wealthy players. And prices are rising not for universally accessible items, but for items that are specifically used, needed and connected with ganutlet
    I did a test before and I was able to farm gaunt with ~3.3ms and 2.3k int zaa set without immo brace. It's way easier to start farming gauntlet now, cause zaarus set is very cheap now. However, you can just get bad awak 3/3 star set + snow orb which are enough to pull "normal" runs and with your gear upgrading progression you can do better runs in future.
    The only gears which rised with price are venal sets (up to 80gl awak), however other things are either same price or heavily dropped. Most of vanities dropped in price aswell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AgentStonoga View Post
    I did a test before and I was able to farm gaunt with ~3.3ms and 2.3k int zaa set without immo brace. It's way easier to start farming gauntlet now, cause zaarus set is very cheap now. However, you can just get bad awak 3/3 star set + snow orb which are enough to pull "normal" runs and with your gear upgrading progression you can do better runs in future.
    The only gears which rised with price are venal sets (up to 80gl awak), however other things are either same price or heavily dropped. Most of vanities dropped in price aswell.
    It appears you're deviating from the core point of my post, much like before. I'll reiterate that to extract the MAXIMUM benefit from farming, one needs good equipment and awakes on it.

    As you may notice, the demand for such equipment is increasing, along with the prices of its components (elite awake gems, jewels) accordingly. As you can see, the price of elite gems has risen by about 39% in SIX MONTHS, from 260k to 360k (not to mention equipment), illustrating a significant increase. This is incredibly high, considering that the price of GOOD equipment to some extent depends on the price of elite gems.

    It's challenging to keep up with such price hikes without the ability to maximize farming benefits (which only players with top-tier equipment THAT FARM EZG can afford).

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    Quote Originally Posted by FrankfurtHBF View Post
    It appears you're deviating from the core point of my post, much like before. I'll reiterate that to extract the MAXIMUM benefit from farming, one needs good equipment and awakes on it.

    As you may notice, the demand for such equipment is increasing, along with the prices of its components (elite awake gems, jewels) accordingly. As you can see, the price of elite gems has risen by about 39% in SIX MONTHS, from 260k to 360k (not to mention equipment), illustrating a significant increase. This is incredibly high, considering that the price of GOOD equipment to some extent depends on the price of elite gems.

    It's challenging to keep up with such price hikes without the ability to maximize farming benefits (which only players with top-tier equipment THAT FARM EZG can afford).
    The thing is that you actually don't need op gears for being able to play current meta ezg strat. You can definitely make it with 3k stat (mage and rog even with less than that), 4ms and starbeast gl set (if you can't do that with these stats then it's skill issue). Starbeast pieces with below 6% stats are cheap, 4ms (even 4.5ms) is cheap aswell, gold loot set varies on % awak (well, venal sets increased in price, but snow weapons made gl weapons cheaper). Overall it's actually way cheaper to get gears for meta farm than before.
    Awaks jumped to 360k because of roadmap. 6 months ago awaks were about 300k when awak event was close. It's 20% increase (and current meta strat let us farm more than 20% more).
    "Not to mention equipment" - kraken and starbeast drastically dropped in price. Clean star arti was 200m when released, now it's 35m. Same thing with belt. Force weapons got cheaper aswell. Most of the items are getting cheaper. OP awak star gear (which isn't needed for farm) will drop in price with awak event.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AgentStonoga View Post
    The thing is that you actually don't need op gears for being able to play current meta ezg strat. You can definitely make it with 3k stat (mage and rog even with less than that), 4ms and starbeast gl set (if you can't do that with these stats then it's skill issue). Starbeast pieces with below 6% stats are cheap, 4ms (even 4.5ms) is cheap aswell, gold loot set varies on % awak (well, venal sets increased in price, but snow weapons made gl weapons cheaper). Overall it's actually way cheaper to get gears for meta farm than before.
    Awaks jumped to 360k because of roadmap. 6 months ago awaks were about 300k when awak event was close. It's 20% increase (and current meta strat let us farm more than 20% more).
    "Not to mention equipment" - kraken and starbeast drastically dropped in price. Clean star arti was 200m when released, now it's 35m. Same thing with belt. Force weapons got cheaper aswell. Most of the items are getting cheaper. OP awak star gear (which isn't needed for farm) will drop in price with awak event.
    You're completely disregarding what I'm trying to convey. Indeed, for casual Gauntlet runs, one doesn't need top-tier stats. But for MAXIMIZING gains with the new tactics, where players pull two minibosses, top-tier gear is necessary, which becomes unattainable for most players due to its price. Consequently, prices for such gear are solely controlled by its owners, as in most cases, only they can acquire it.

    Due to the fact that such tactics are unavailable to all players, there's a significant disparity in in-game currency acquisition between those who can utilize them and those who cannot. And I assure you, based on personal experience, the difference is simply enormous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FrankfurtHBF View Post
    You're completely disregarding what I'm trying to convey. Indeed, for casual Gauntlet runs, one doesn't need top-tier stats. But for MAXIMIZING gains with the new tactics, where players pull two minibosses, top-tier gear is necessary, which becomes unattainable for most players due to its price. Consequently, prices for such gear are solely controlled by its owners, as in most cases, only they can acquire it.

    Due to the fact that such tactics are unavailable to all players, there's a significant disparity in in-game currency acquisition between those who can utilize them and those who cannot. And I assure you, based on personal experience, the difference is simply enormous.
    I clearly said it. For being able to play that mini pull strat and farm noticeably more than before you actually don't need op awaks, sb set with gl awak and some ms are more than enough to play this strat.
    (which doesn't have sense, because there should be a farming progression basing on your gears like in most games).


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    Quote Originally Posted by FrankfurtHBF View Post
    You're completely disregarding what I'm trying to convey. Indeed, for casual Gauntlet runs, one doesn't need top-tier stats. But for MAXIMIZING gains with the new tactics, where players pull two minibosses, top-tier gear is necessary, which becomes unattainable for most players due to its price. Consequently, prices for such gear are solely controlled by its owners, as in most cases, only they can acquire it.

    Due to the fact that such tactics are unavailable to all players, there's a significant disparity in in-game currency acquisition between those who can utilize them and those who cannot. And I assure you, based on personal experience, the difference is simply enormous.
    Your logic goes: since ppl cant afford gear, then they cant do the tactic = disparity.

    So, u want all players to have the same top tier gears so they can do the same tactic?

    You're advocating communism instead lol.



    Everything has a process. Did you start rich when you started to play? Once upon a time, you were broke and farmed with crappy gears playing with randoms using slow strats. But consistency over the course of months made you rich and afford the once uNnaTaiNaBle gears. And that applies to everyone when starting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ilove_Poopoo View Post
    Your logic goes: since ppl cant afford gear, then they cant do the tactic = disparity.

    So, u want all players to have the same top tier gears so they can do the same tactic?

    You're advocating communism bud



    Everything has a process. Did you start rich when you started to play? surely you were once broke and farmed with crappy gear/gl playing with randoms and with slow tactics. But consistency over the course of months is what transitioned you to save up and upgrade to be maxed out. And that applies to everyone when starting.
    Hi spectral, I respect your perspective, and I appreciate your detailed response. However, I feel that my words may have been taken out of context and misconstrued. My intention was to highlight the significant income disparity between Ezg players and those farming other maps. By providing examples of tactics, I aimed to underscore how far-reaching the advantage of Ezg in terms of profitability has become.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AgentStonoga View Post
    I did a test before and I was able to farm gaunt with ~3.3ms and 2.3k int zaa set without immo brace. It's way easier to start farming gauntlet now, cause zaarus set is very cheap now. However, you can just get bad awak 3/3 star set + snow orb which are enough to pull "normal" runs and with your gear upgrading progression you can do better runs in future.
    The only gears which rised with price are venal sets (up to 80gl awak), however other things are either same price or heavily dropped. Most of vanities dropped in price aswell.
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