Obama won

**Urqui** · 11-06-2012, 11:37 PM

Not surprised but happy

**Zeus** · 11-07-2012, 12:28 AM

Yay, medical field gets screwed and more benefits for those who don't like to work! -.-

That's definitely the way to fix the US economy, yessir. I don't know when US citizens will stop thinking about themselves and more towards the country as a whole. The entitlements that we have now is the major reason why the US is in debt. We blame presidents, but it's really our own fault.

The general public wants this: lower taxes but more benefits. This does not work out, as it's one or the other. Although I'm not for benefits/entitlements because I believe that it makes Americans lazy, but if you want them, the taxes should be equally high to balance out the cost of entitlements/benefits.

My philosophy is this, "People will only accomplish what is needed to be accomplished." What does this mean? If the bar is set low, then they will only rise up to barely meet the expectations of that bar. If the bar is set high, then they will be challenged to meet the expectations of that bar.

Darwin's theory about "survival of the fittest" dwindles in our society.

**Zaonabiuibil** · 11-07-2012, 06:35 AM

Woo..... *moves to Canada* now I won't get screwed, and I can play AL!

**Superduper** · 11-07-2012, 01:02 PM

Originally Posted by Zaonabiuibil

Woo..... *moves to Canada* now I won't get screwed, and I can play AL!

Just fell out of my chair with laughter

**razerfingers** · 11-07-2012, 09:54 AM

Originally Posted by Zaonabiuibil

Woo..... *moves to Canada* now I won't get screwed, and I can play AL!

<3 take me wiff youuu

Sent using blood on a bathroom wall

**FluffNStuff** · 11-07-2012, 11:55 AM

Apollo, did you fall asleep with Fox News on again?

**razerfingers** · 11-07-2012, 12:02 PM

Originally Posted by FluffNStuff

Apollo, did you fall asleep with Fox News on again?

I prefer the blaze

glenn beck ftw

Sent using blood on a bathroom wall

**morfic** · 11-07-2012, 12:22 PM

So happy about this. 50% of America was blinded by the right-wing media spin. They are so good at painting the left as horrible people... and making people believe it.

Romney was a horrible candidate. They build their entire campaign on Obama's shortcomings. All they said was "Obama stinks" and "i'll fix everything". But everytime someone asked Romney how he would fix things.. he never described how he would do it. All he did was tell people what they wanted to hear.

Obama might have failed in some things, but he also accomplished a crap ton for us. He also has shown us all his entire plan. Whether we agree with everything about the plan is one thing, but at least we see his plan.

**Superduper** · 11-07-2012, 01:05 PM

Originally Posted by morfic

So happy about this. 50% of America was blinded by the right-wing media spin. They are so good at painting the left as horrible people... and making people believe it.

Romney was a horrible candidate. They build their entire campaign on Obama's shortcomings. All they said was "Obama stinks" and "i'll fix everything". But everytime someone asked Romney how he would fix things.. he never described how he would do it. All he did was tell people what they wanted to hear.

Obama might have failed in some things, but he also accomplished a crap ton for us. He also has shown us all his entire plan. Whether we agree with everything about the plan is one thing, but at least we see his plan.

Well when my grandchildren are still paying for his seemingly limitless spending, I will let them talk to you. Obama may have patched things up, and i say that with a hint of sarcasm, but the real problem of his spending has yet to be seen.

**morfic** · 11-07-2012, 02:24 PM

Originally Posted by Superduper

Well when my grandchildren are still paying for his seemingly limitless spending, I will let them talk to you. Obama may have patched things up, and i say that with a hint of sarcasm, but the real problem of his spending has yet to be seen.

Ignorant. You cannot stop the biggest recession since the great depression without some big spending. Not only that, but cleaning up the war effort.

The only thing that he really threw money at that wasn't needed, was green energy. And if you cannot see the need for us to start investing heavily in green energy, then you are blind. Can you fathom how much coal and oil the world consumes each day? Can you also comprehend that the stuff comes from the Earth and takes a LONG time to form? We are burning through the Earth's lifeblood at an alarming rate. When should we start investing in alternatives? After we have depleted all of these resources? When it becomes a critical situation threatening to throw everything into chaos? No. Now is the time to start investing in alternatives.

I would advise your grandchildren to go have words with George W's great grandchildren about why he forced Obama to spend so much money to clean up his mess.

**MightyMicah** · 11-07-2012, 03:20 PM

Originally Posted by morfic

Ignorant. You cannot stop the biggest recession since the great depression without some big spending. Not only that, but cleaning up the war effort.

The only thing that he really threw money at that wasn't needed, was green energy. And if you cannot see the need for us to start investing heavily in green energy, then you are blind. Can you fathom how much coal and oil the world consumes each day? Can you also comprehend that the stuff comes from the Earth and takes a LONG time to form? We are burning through the Earth's lifeblood at an alarming rate. When should we start investing in alternatives? After we have depleted all of these resources? When it becomes a critical situation threatening to throw everything into chaos? No. Now is the time to start investing in alternatives.

I would advise your grandchildren to go have words with George W's great grandchildren about why he forced Obama to spend so much money to clean up his mess.

Clearly you cannot begin to fathom 8 trillion dollars.

Let's take Pocket Legends for instance. Lets say by some radically odd event Evolt gets 8 billion Gold in debt. Do you think he will borrow another 8 billion to get out of debt with? I highly doubt it. If anything, he would find a way to get an income and multiply that. Or perhaps, if he did borrow, it would be a couple million. He would then use that to multiply it and pay his debt.

Common sense is common sense whether it refers to the president or not. You don't borrow money that you don't have so that you can gamble with it. ESPECIALLY not 8 trillion dollars.

**morfic** · 11-07-2012, 05:55 PM

Originally Posted by MightyMicah

Clearly you cannot begin to fathom 8 trillion dollars.

Let's take Pocket Legends for instance. Lets say by some radically odd event Evolt gets 8 billion Gold in debt. Do you think he will borrow another 8 billion to get out of debt with? I highly doubt it. If anything, he would find a way to get an income and multiply that. Or perhaps, if he did borrow, it would be a couple million. He would then use that to multiply it and pay his debt.

Common sense is common sense whether it refers to the president or not. You don't borrow money that you don't have so that you can gamble with it. ESPECIALLY not 8 trillion dollars.

You DO borrow money that you don't have, if the debt is worth the reward. If the money borrowed stops another depression... then it is well worth it.

What money did Obama borrow, that he gambled on? What part of that 8 trillion was wasted in your eyes? Was it just the green energy spending? If so.. wasn't it only $90 billion he invested into green energy?

**Tvis** · 11-07-2012, 01:54 PM

Here's an idea! Spend all the money we have, give away everything we have, and smile at the public!
-Barack Obama

**Zeus** · 11-07-2012, 01:58 PM

Originally Posted by Tvis

Here's an idea! Spend all the money we have, give away everything we have, and smile at the public!
-Barack Obama

Only problem is that we have no money. I really am wondering how they're going to write the budget bill this year and get it passed, if it hasn't already been written.

**Walkhardd** · 11-07-2012, 02:01 PM

Watch moar fox news, mit lovers.

**Roberto077** · 11-07-2012, 02:20 PM

MOOOOOooooooooOOOOOOOOoooonnnnNNNnNNNnn BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAaaaAAAaaaaAAAAASE

**Walkhardd** · 11-07-2012, 02:51 PM

Ty Morf. <3

To all of you that blindly listen to fox news, or your right winged parents, do some research of your own.

**Zaonabiuibil** · 11-07-2012, 03:23 PM

Here was Romney's plan.

Lower taxes on the rich.

THEN, they can use the money they saved to expand their businesses.

THEN, with the expansion of business, more people can get more jobs.

THEN, those people can be taxed because they have those jobs.

THEN, the government makes money to spend for public, national, debt, etc. use.

Obama's plan.

LOWER taxes for lower class.

TAX millionaires through the roof.

If they're taxed, they can't expand their businesses. That's why the unemployment rate is so high. People are afraid to grow and hire with the fear of getting taxed up their butts.
If they can't hire, people get no jobs, and they can't pay for taxes. And the economy is screwed.

Obama said he'd get this country to 5.4% unemployment by the end of his first term. It's over 8%.

Now, I wonder what plan is better.

**Sweet** · 11-09-2012, 06:53 PM

If his plan was "reduce tax on the corporate tax " instead of " lower tax on rich " then it could be better plan than Obama's.

I think American companies need to stop offsoreing to other countries.

Do u know why lots of companies have been offsoreing to Singapore ? Cuz corporate tax is very low.

**Dalinuel** · 11-07-2012, 04:10 PM

Originally Posted by Zaonabiuibil

Here was Romney's plan.

Lower taxes on the rich.

THEN, they can use the money they saved to expand their businesses.

THEN, with the expansion of business, more people can get more jobs.

THEN, those people can be taxed because they have those jobs.

THEN, the government makes money to spend for public, national, debt, etc. use.

Obama's plan.

LOWER taxes for lower class.

TAX millionaires through the roof.

If they're taxed, they can't expand their businesses. That's why the unemployment rate is so high. People are afraid to grow and hire with the fear of getting taxed up their butts.
If they can't hire, people get no jobs, and they can't pay for taxes. And the economy is screwed.

Obama said he'd get this country to 5.4% unemployment by the end of his first term. It's over 8%.

Now, I wonder what plan is better.

tax millionaires through the roof? no dont think so..its about time they start paying there fair share of taxes...

The richest woman in Wisconsin, Diane Hendricks, is worth an estimated $2.8 billion, but she did not pay a dime in state income tax in 2010.. now you tell me how is that fair.....