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    Default Feedback on Daily Blessings nerf.

    Hey y'all, just read snakes thread about the blessing nerf and I certainly wouldn't be happy if they nerfed it. Here are some of my reasons why:

    1. Ruins the whole point of DB (Daily Blessings) Sts made the daily blessings to reward platinum to people who can't buy it and they play regularly.

    2. People who don't have credit cards (kids) OR people in countries where credit cards are banned, get left out because they can't access/buy plat and this is one of the reasons sts made DB.

    3. If endgame is mainly based on platinum, then the people who cannot access platinum would miss out on a lot of things but DB balanced it out. If DB gets nerfed, those people would struggle because:

    - They wouldn't be able to farm because they wouldn't have luck elixirs we all know no reroll pinks have a low drop rate

    - They wouldn't level fast (150k required to lvl from 70-76) and if they don't cap fast, they'll miss out on elite dungeons. I know lots of people who quit because of this.

    4. DB actually profited the devs, I say this because, people purchase a lot of platinum to buy character slots. people buying more and more platinum profited devs.

    5. It would show that devs favor the paying customers than the people who don't buy platinum but spend as much amount of time as the paying people.

    6. Low earnings of free platinum. We all know W3I is stingy when it comes to plat, I barely get 5 plat a day and DB was a great alternative, but if DB is nerfed then STS would have to find another way for free platinum earnings.

    My birthday wish (yes it's my bday) is that STS DONT NERF DB please. But since I know sts wouldn't like all the toon armies, I have a solution: Make the 30 plat payout a LITTLE (not by a lot at all) rarer, but leave all others as they are. I would hate it if they removed DB altogether. Also make the 2500 (stupid) gold payout rare, I hate waiting 5 days (5k gold) and then getting a worthless 2.5k gold. I'm not telling sts how to do their job but as a community's voice, I would like it to happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMiraclebird View Post
    4. DB actually profited the devs, I say this because, people purchase a lot of platinum to buy character slots. E.g. Zhau brought 800 platinum (about $50) to buy 160 character slots, people buying more and more platinum profited devs.
    This is where the problem is. Why did he buy 160 toons? Theres no logical reason for this besides CHEATING the system. With that 800 plat spent and this whole thing not getting nerfed, chances are, this guy never has to buy plat again. After he earns back 800, its all profit from there. Where is the money then for support of the game. Think if everyone did this, after the initial $50 spent, they wouldnt have to spend any more.

    Iv'e said it before and I'll say it again, this type of exploit is cheating, theres no two ways around it. If I was a dev and I had a say in it, I'd make it my duty to find all these cheaters and permaban them....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cobraguy View Post
    This is where the problem is. Why did he buy 160 toons? Theres no logical reason for this besides CHEATING the system. With that 800 plat spent and this whole thing not getting nerfed, chances are, this guy never has to buy plat again. After he earns back 800, its all profit from there. Where is the money then for support of the game. Think if everyone did this, after the initial $50 spent, they wouldnt have to spend any more.

    Iv'e said it before and I'll say it again, this type of exploit is cheating, theres no two ways around it. If I was a dev and I had a say in it, I'd make it my duty to find all these cheaters and permaban them....
    160x5=800. GG.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Cobraguy View Post
    This is where the problem is. Why did he buy 160 toons? Theres no logical reason for this besides CHEATING the system. With that 800 plat spent and this whole thing not getting nerfed, chances are, this guy never has to buy plat again. After he earns back 800, its all profit from there. Where is the money then for support of the game. Think if everyone did this, after the initial $50 spent, they wouldnt have to spend any more.

    Iv'e said it before and I'll say it again, this type of exploit is cheating, theres no two ways around it. If I was a dev and I had a say in it, I'd make it my duty to find all these cheaters and permaban them....
    Could you ban em all? what if some other peole are making 320 toons and dont show off on forum and noone knows? As i said before: Dont hate the players, hate the game. Its an online game, and as far as i know, in all online games people will find a way to abuse/exploit/hax/bot so devs have to works alot to prevent this. In some other thread, some people said that there is a bot in PL (i didnt know that exist) but noone ever give a danm things about it, so why dont bann em too?

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    Quote Originally Posted by vle_hoang View Post
    Could you ban em all? what if some other peole are making 320 toons and dont show off on forum and noone knows? As i said before: Dont hate the players, hate the game. Its an online game, and as far as i know, in all online games people will find a way to abuse/exploit/hax/bot so devs have to works alot to prevent this. In some other thread, some people said that there is a bot in PL (i didnt know that exist) but noone ever give a danm things about it, so why dont bann em too?
    I'm sure if I was a programmer I could actually do this. Probably not that hard to run a script and find tens to hundreds (estimate) of players who have over a certain amount of toons. After that it would be easy to find when these extra toons were made. As a matter of fact, check your own account history and it will show you exactly when you bought an extra toon slot. If you as a player are able to see that, imagine what I as a developer theoretically could see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cobraguy View Post
    This is where the problem is. Why did he buy 160 toons? Theres no logical reason for this besides CHEATING the system. With that 800 plat spent and this whole thing not getting nerfed, chances are, this guy never has to buy plat again. After he earns back 800, its all profit from there. Where is the money then for support of the game. Think if everyone did this, after the initial $50 spent, they wouldnt have to spend any more.

    Iv'e said it before and I'll say it again, this type of exploit is cheating, theres no two ways around it. If I was a dev and I had a say in it, I'd make it my duty to find all these cheaters and permaban them....
    Not to mention all the gold he would acquire. I mean 100k a day like nothing

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    Agree with Cobraguy on this. The $50 investment by a certain person to buy 160 characters is a revenue for STS, definitely. But it's also an "investment" to obtain more and more platinum in the future. As a result, if the person is patient enough, he/she would not need to buy platinum ever again in the future, rendering potential revenue losses for STS in the long run. In the other thread, a suggestion was made to limit the platinum rewards per account, and that is a viable option in my opinion.

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    Would a poll make sense ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cobraguy View Post
    This is where the problem is. Why did he buy 160 toons? Theres no logical reason for this besides CHEATING the system. With that 800 plat spent and this whole thing not getting nerfed, chances are, this guy never has to buy plat again. After he earns back 800, its all profit from there. Where is the money then for support of the game. Think if everyone did this, after the initial $50 spent, they wouldnt have to spend any more.

    Iv'e said it before and I'll say it again, this type of exploit is cheating, theres no two ways around it. If I was a dev and I had a say in it, I'd make it my duty to find all these cheaters and permaban them....
    Agree!! And PL will be closed down..
    So please... There is still chance to get FREE platinum! You don't really need platinum to play at endgame, of course it would be much easier with elixir.

    If you really love PL, please support them instead of asking for more. It's just my opinion.

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    Default Feedback on Daily Blessings nerf.

    I do love pl but I am thinking about the whole community. There are not only people from US/UK/Aus playing. Think about others who DONT HAVE ACCESS TO ANY KIND OF PLAT/Banned countries.
    +1 to the platinum reward per account idea.
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    Maybe they could keep it but to use it u have to hit a lvl req so people cant just buy slots and to db on lvl 1s
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    How about only L30+ can get PLATINUM rewards.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMiraclebird View Post
    How about only L30+ can get PLATINUM rewards.
    Much better, people are just creating random characters for DB rewards

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMiraclebird View Post
    How about only L30+ can get PLATINUM rewards.
    What he said. L30 is a little low though. And it should always be changing. I'd like to see "the only toons who can get a plat reward are those at the max level prior to the update".... what I mean is that the current max is 76. Those toons between 70 and 76 should be able to get rewards.
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    How about 10 toons per account and all tonns should be of a certain lvl?

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    <sighs> I was probaly the biggest supporter of a plat reward. I know I argued hard and long for the implementation of some kind of plat reward for players. Especially those in countries where they don't have access to credit cards and for younger players who don't have access to a credit card. I have several of them in my guild. I watched time and time again as players fell for the Plat Scams and I thought that a plat reward would be a great way to stop this.

    If you all have noticed, there has not been nearly as many "I was Scammed" threads started since the daily blessings started. Maybe its the elixirs, maybe its the plat. I don't know. I do know that a lot of the folks that I talked to, only wanted a specific vanity item, like the Crimson Holo Shield, Pet or a Thrasher.

    That people would exploit the reward system is foolish and greedy. They only end up ruining things for themselves and others. If the plat system hasn't been nerfed, I feel that it should be. My suggestion is that the Plat reward be scaled to either 5 or 10 plat. I know I was surprised to see that the maximum plat reward was 30 plat. I expected it to be more along the lines of DL and to be only 10 plat maximum.

    I also feel that only toons above level 30 be allowed to get the plat reward. I think that this might help to deter the "Plat Farmers" I honestly regret that something that I argued so hard for has been exploited to the point that STS has to do something about the issue. It is an exploit and I believe that if a player created multiple toons for the specific purpose of collecting plat, then the accounts in question should be banned.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shellkaz View Post
    <sighs> I was probaly the biggest supporter of a plat reward. I know I argued hard and long for the implementation of some kind of plat reward for players. Especially those in countries where they don't have access to credit cards and for younger players who don't have access to a credit card. I have several of them in my guild. I watched time and time again as players fell for the Plat Scams and I thought that a plat reward would be a great way to stop this.

    If you all have noticed, there has not been nearly as many "I was Scammed" threads started since the daily blessings started. Maybe its the elixirs, maybe its the plat. I don't know. I do know that a lot of the folks that I talked to, only wanted a specific vanity item, like the Crimson Holo Shield, Pet or a Thrasher.

    That people would exploit the reward system is foolish and greedy. They only end up ruining things for themselves and others. If the plat system hasn't been nerfed, I feel that it should be. My suggestion is that the Plat reward be scaled to either 5 or 10 plat. I know I was surprised to see that the maximum plat reward was 30 plat. I expected it to be more along the lines of DL and to be only 10 plat maximum.

    I also feel that only toons above level 30 be allowed to get the plat reward. I think that this might help to deter the "Plat Farmers" I honestly regret that something that I argued so hard for has been exploited to the point that STS has to do something about the issue. It is an exploit and I believe that if a player created multiple toons for the specific purpose of collecting plat, then the accounts in question should be banned.
    now this guy is getting my point.

    May I add to that? If sts is going to put the maximum plat for example 10, then the reward shouldn't be that rare, plat rewards should be common if the cap is 10 plat. Hoping cap would be like 15-20 cuz 10 plat can't buy me nothing and waiting 5 days :/ plat offers give me more hehe.
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    Since when it got nefed? I got 3x30 plat + 2x10 plats from 30 toons yesterday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vle_hoang View Post
    30 toons yesterday.
    that's what they mean by abuse
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    Hey miracle that was a sarcastic joke I don't think anyone has the time to make that many toons lol I have 7 chars and have had 7 for a while lol

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